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Do Christians have Stockholm syndrome where one loves his abuser?

 
 
Reply Thu 4 Apr, 2019 10:10 am
Do Christians have Stockholm syndrome where one loves his abuser?

I will not pull my punches on this issue. Christians know that we Gnostic Christians think that their genocidal and infanticidal God is one vile satanic piece of work. Gnostic Christians call evil evil while Christians call evil good. Muslims, who idol worship the same God, do the same thing and suffer from the same condition.

That is why Gnostic Christians call Yahweh a demiurge when discussing our myths. Myths that we do not foolishly read literally the way foolish Christians read theirs.

If these actors were real, they would be showing you how Gnostic Christians think.
https://vimeo.com/7038401

Stockholm syndrome is a condition that causes hostages to develop a psychological alliance with their captors, as a survival strategy during captivity, to the point of loving and protecting their abuser from harm.

Yahweh used genocide on humanity, yet Christians forgive him and even praise him for killing when he could have just cured all. Christians also forgive Yahweh for torturing and murdering innocent babies, with the vilest incident being King David’s baby. Yahweh did the satanic thing instead of the Godly thing.

As a real instead of fictional analogy, I offer that Hitler also used genocidal ways, also tortured children. In his case the world, even some Christians, recognized his satanic ways and condemned him.

The Christian mindset of calling evil good that, Christians are demonstrating, shows that Christians either developed an immoral double moral standard, --- where they praise the genocidal attribute of God, while condemning the same attribute in a man, --- or they collectively have Stockholm syndrome. I do not see a third option.

The analogy shows that Christians adoring Yahweh is like Jews adoring Hitler. Something seems to be wrong with Christian thinking.

Which label do you apply to those who adore a genocidal entity? Good or evil?

Regards
DL
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fresco
 
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Reply Thu 4 Apr, 2019 01:39 pm
@Greatest I am,
Read Derrida. All assertions evoke their negation for their import.
The 'rationality' of your positive version of Christinity is semantically parasitic on what you antithetically see as a 'negative' version.
Myths beget counter myths, but they all remain myths.
mystikmind
 
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Reply Thu 4 Apr, 2019 03:20 pm
@Greatest I am,
When i see posts like this, always the bible chapter of Job comes to mind. It does not paint a good picture of a loving God. Personally i think the person who wrote that chapter did not understand God correctly at all, yes, i am saying the bible got it wrong.... if not, then that is seriously disturbing!!!!
Jewels Vern
 
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Reply Thu 4 Apr, 2019 05:00 pm
WTF are you talking about?
Greatest I am
 
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Reply Sat 6 Apr, 2019 09:47 am
@fresco,
fresco wrote:

Read Derrida. All assertions evoke their negation for their import.
The 'rationality' of your positive version of Christinity is semantically parasitic on what you antithetically see as a 'negative' version.
Myths beget counter myths, but they all remain myths.



You might want to talk of the issues in the O.P.

Regards
DL
Greatest I am
 
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Reply Sat 6 Apr, 2019 09:49 am
@mystikmind,
mystikmind wrote:

When i see posts like this, always the bible chapter of Job comes to mind. It does not paint a good picture of a loving God. Personally i think the person who wrote that chapter did not understand God correctly at all, yes, i am saying the bible got it wrong.... if not, then that is seriously disturbing!!!!


Non-literalists and non-believers are disturbed by what they read for sure.

Believers and the compilers of the myth definitely got it wrong.

Regards
DL


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Greatest I am
 
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Reply Sat 6 Apr, 2019 09:51 am
@Jewels Vern,
Jewels Vern wrote:

WTF are you talking about?


How Christians are immoral for idol worshiping a genocidal son murdering prick of a god while calling that satanic moral monster good.

Regards
DL
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fresco
 
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Reply Sat 6 Apr, 2019 10:55 am
@Greatest I am,
All questions are framed by the agenda of the questioner. Your agenda is to promote 'gnostic Christianity' by attempting to classify mainstream Christians as 'victims'. I see no point in 'addrssing' such a ploy. I merely expose the covert semantic subtext involved. I have no interest in Christianity per se in its various forms other than to register bemusement with the fragmentation which seems to occur in all religions where each faction lays claim to 'truth'. Smile
Greatest I am
 
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Reply Sat 6 Apr, 2019 11:21 am
@fresco,
fresco wrote:

All questions are framed by the agenda of the questioner. Your agenda is to promote 'gnostic Christianity' by attempting to classify mainstream Christians as 'victims'. I see no point in 'addrssing' such a ploy. I merely expose the covert semantic subtext involved. I have no interest in Christianity per se in its various forms other than to register bemusement with the fragmentation which seems to occur in all religions where each faction lays claim to 'truth'. Smile


" I have no interest in Christianity "

Then you are not living by the Golden Rule as you do not care about the harm they bring to so many with their homophobic and misogynous teachings.

You are a bright guy, but not a moral o9ne.

Regards
DL

fresco
 
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Reply Sat 6 Apr, 2019 11:52 am
@Greatest I am,
Homophobia and mysogyny are certainly not the exclusive province of some mainstream Christians even if it serves your purpose to claim that. Indeed Anglicans, at least, significantly seem to have gone some way in redressing their own domain. All religions, including yours, tend to have tribal societal regulatory functions. Religion can be seen as part of the price we pay for being language using primates which generate cognitive concepts like, fate, sin and purpose. At the individual level it also functions as a psychological crutch which counters the fear of personal 'insignificance'.

What we call 'morality' logically equates to expedient reciprocal behavior and can undergo contextual shifts. There is a possible evolutionary explanation for its origins, despite some academic religionists who claim 'divine origins' for it. Morality and religion have no necessary connection.

From this point of view, internecine squabbling amongst religionists underscores the arbitrariness of any of it. With apologies to Shakespeare
...'A plague on ALL their houses!'

mystikmind
 
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Reply Sun 7 Apr, 2019 05:48 pm
Job is also an example of a person more likely to be in a position to suffer 'Stockholm syndrome'. Not that i believe that, but just that he is at the top of that list.
I watched a documentary on some guy who built a lighthouse on a very difficult position on a rock platform out at sea. The guy was a dedicated Christian and just wanted to save lives. After all the struggles to get it built, after finally succeeding, his reward was for his two young children to drop dead from disease. How could that Happen?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfF5aNtu5c0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49x340x06mM
chai2
 
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Reply Sun 7 Apr, 2019 07:21 pm
@mystikmind,
Because people die from disease.

It’s not a reward or punishment. It’s what happens sometimes.
mystikmind
 
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Reply Sun 7 Apr, 2019 07:30 pm
@chai2,
Yes, that's true... but i have also seen that there is a malicious 'will' at work in the world.
I was given a revelation years ago.... i was watching the news one day, and as they described the sequence of terrible events that happened to a family... a light bulb flashed in my mind 'that family are Christians'.... and then they started interviewing a family member and Yes! They were very Christian!!

This;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxqrzJvcQIk
chai2
 
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Reply Sun 7 Apr, 2019 08:04 pm
@mystikmind,
mystikmind wrote:

as they described the sequence of terrible events that happened to a family... a light bulb flashed in my mind 'that family are Christians'.... and then they started interviewing a family member and Yes! They were very Christian!!



Wow.
I mean what are the odds, huh?

Proof positive I'd say.
mystikmind
 
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Reply Sun 7 Apr, 2019 08:15 pm
@chai2,
"Wow.
I mean what are the odds, huh?

Proof positive I'd say. "

Proof positive for me, obviously, because it happened to me, not you.
chai2
 
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Reply Sun 7 Apr, 2019 08:28 pm
@mystikmind,
So, in other words, you don't have a concept of coincidence, leaving something unexplained, and are mystfied by common everyday things.

Why is there is need for so many people to explain everything, even when it's of no importance?

So you watched a news story, you thought, "they were X", which is a very common thing to be, and they were X. That means absolutely nothing.

mystikmind
 
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Reply Sun 7 Apr, 2019 08:58 pm
@chai2,
I see you are growing a nice little garden of assumptions there.

Yesterday i did not know i have no concept of co-incidence, now i know!

Here i was thinking i know about my own life, when i could just have asked you what i think and believe!!!



chai2
 
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Reply Sun 7 Apr, 2019 09:56 pm
@mystikmind,
That’s right, get all butt hurt when reality is pointed out to you.

Yes, obviously you have the power to receive revelations, since you received a message that someone was a very common thing, and there you are.

That’s the silliest thing.

Of all the things some great I Am could reveal to you, and it’s something useless like what someone says their religion is?

Why not get a revelation as to why babies are raped every day or are sold into child pornograph rings?

You know, something that might be useful to know so some of it can be stopped.

You’re so pleased you believe you got some personal little meaningless message.
mystikmind
 
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Reply Sun 7 Apr, 2019 10:09 pm
@chai2,
Wow, what a vicious little thing you are.

I do not see why a personal experience is so offensive to you?
What a normal person does, is they take it or leave it, they dont run around like a crazy person chasing me around with a rolling pin because HOW DARE I talk about my personal experience!

All i can suggest is that you go see a counselor or something because you have issues!
chai2
 
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Reply Mon 8 Apr, 2019 07:58 am
@mystikmind,
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