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Wed 20 Apr, 2005 04:28 pm
The catholic church believes that it is wrong to use contraception. I assume that this is because they believe it is wrong to have sex purely for pleasure, and not with the intention of producing children. Many catholics use the rhythm method to avoid producing unwanted children, and when they do so they are having sex for pleasure and without the intention of producing children. Therefore, by using the rhythm method, surely they are contradicting the church's stance on contraception?
Does anybody disagree with me, and believe that the rhythm method should not be lumped together with other forms of contraception?
(Incidentally, I am not Catholic and I condone the use of contraception.)
Disagree. The rhythm method should definately not be lumped together with other contraceptic methods. In fact, doctors have a special medical term for women who rely on the rhythm method. They call them MOTHERS!
The rhythm method works wonders. My parents used it for many years.
I'm the youngest of eight.
Doctor's have a word for women who practice the rhythm method . . . mothers.
Certain pages should always be torn out of the catholic
catechism.
Re: catholics and the rhythm method
agrote wrote:The catholic church believes that it is wrong to use contraception. I assume that this is because they believe it is wrong to have sex purely for pleasure, and not with the intention of producing children. )
No no no no. It's because birth control prevents the egg implanting onto the uterus when fertilized. It is then flushed from the body during the period. This is seen as abortion.
I personally use birth control. I think God would rather me prevent a pregnancy than have a child that I can't provide for.
In my understanding, which is based on what I remember from the years all this interested me personally, birth control pills were not approved of because they were artificial interference, whereas rhythm was natural. I remember some frowns from the nuns on rhythm as well, but it was acceptable.
I also remember use of the iud (intrauterine device) to be considered "abortifacient" but not that pills were. In other words, the iud was a big step further in the wrong direction from the church's point of view.
Well, that was then, based on my memory. I don't know what is being considered now, theologically/ethically.
Re: catholics and the rhythm method
Bella Dea wrote:It's because birth control prevents the egg implanting onto the uterus when fertilized.
So does not having sex. But not having sex is approved by the Catholic church.
By the way, did you know that some women ovulate more than once per cycle? Or is it that the ovulation point changes? Now I better look it up. I'll be baaaaaaaaaaaavk...
you should look into "Natural Family Planning"
But whether or not it's an unreliable method, I believe that it is as artificial as contraception, and so if you believe that it is wrong to use contraception (I don't), you should also reject the rhythm method.
Re: catholics and the rhythm method
agrote wrote:Bella Dea wrote:It's because birth control prevents the egg implanting onto the uterus when fertilized.
So does not having sex. But not having sex is approved by the Catholic church.
Sure but abstinence does not produce a fertilized egg. And if there is no fertilized egg (life according to the church), then there can be no abortion. And the abortion is what is wrong. At least that is what I was taught.
I was just discussing this with my daughter yesterday. She has a classmate (17) who is pregnant. The father is 18, and they plan to marry this summer after the baby is born.
Evidently, the school paper did an article on them, talked of their plans and how they had used contraception and got pregnant anyway. From my daughters telling of it, it sounds like the school is condoning and glorifying them in that they are getting positive press and mention during the morning announcements of their expected parenthood. Everyones talking about how cute the little clothes are that they are getting. They even included a pic of the sonogram in the paper.
So, we were talking about the contraception failure and I pointed out that she was concieved on the fifth day and her brother (16 months later) on the seventh, which goes against advice to abstain between the 9-19th day.
Her response... "Seth was conceived on the seventh day? (pause) You and Dad should have rested."
Thanks for that info, Soz.
That is precisely why doctors describe the practitioners of the rhythm method as mothers.
Rhythm is great for dancing but not for birth control.
Re: catholics and the rhythm method
Bella Dea wrote:agrote wrote:Bella Dea wrote:It's because birth control prevents the egg implanting onto the uterus when fertilized.
So does not having sex. But not having sex is approved by the Catholic church.
Sure but abstinence does not produce a fertilized egg. And if there is no fertilized egg (life according to the church), then there can be no abortion. And the abortion is what is wrong. At least that is what I was taught.
Condoms do not produce fertilized eggs, so why is the catholic church against condoms? They are no different to the rhythm method - they both involve having sex purely for pleasure and without the intention of producing a fertilised egg. But catholics condone the rhythm method, and not the condom - why?
Don't ask questions. It's better that way. Just shut up and make healthy Catholic babies.
Re: catholics and the rhythm method
agrote wrote:Bella Dea wrote:agrote wrote:Bella Dea wrote:It's because birth control prevents the egg implanting onto the uterus when fertilized.
So does not having sex. But not having sex is approved by the Catholic church.
Sure but abstinence does not produce a fertilized egg. And if there is no fertilized egg (life according to the church), then there can be no abortion. And the abortion is what is wrong. At least that is what I was taught.
Condoms do not produce fertilized eggs, so why is the catholic church against condoms? They are no different to the rhythm method - they both involve having sex purely for pleasure and without the intention of producing a fertilised egg. But catholics condone the rhythm method, and not the condom - why?
Good question.
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