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Hey! We found someone to kick around!

 
 
dlowan
 
Reply Sun 9 Mar, 2003 06:48 am
Have other Australians (and anyone else interested) picked up this story from Crikey?

It seems our beloved Foreign Minister, Alexander ("bummer") Downer - (don't send, don't send, don't send him overseas) has been bullying the leader of fledgeling nation, East Timor, over lucrative treaties.

I guess we think we can shove 'em and rob 'em, eh - after saving their arses - 25 years too late, yes, but still...

And here was I thinking the US was acting like a bully!


From www.crikey.com.au


"------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. AUSTRALIA vs EAST TIMOR - THE BULLYING CONTINUES

Is the Australian Government using familiar bullying tactics to quell
opposition by East Timor to those lucrative gas and oil fields?

If the manic reaction to Crikey's exclusive publication yesterday of the
transcript from the infamous November 27 meeting between Alexander
Downer and East Timor prime minister Mari Alkatiri is an indication, the
answer is: YES.

No sooner had we published our expose of Downer's private outburst
against Alkatiri than the sh*t hit the fan.

The BBC called within an hour and then Dr Alkatiri's office rang asking
us to urgently remove the confidential account of his meeting with
Downer from the site.

"The publication of a document purporting to describe a confidential
state-to-state meeting is helpful neither to the East Timorese people
nor the Australian people," wrote Alkateri advisor Jonathan Morrow in a
follow-up email to Crikey.

While this was happening, a jumpy Howard Government was throwing two
opposition MPs out of Parliament, and Alkatiri's office was sending
conflicting messages about the conduct of Downer and Howard during the
tense resource negotiations.

Greens Senator Bob Brown was ejected from the chamber for accusing
Australia of bullying our fledgling neighbor East Timor. Read the
sensitive document we published yesterday and you may also come to the
conclusion about Downer's patronising attitude:
http://www.crikey.com.au/politics/2003/03/06/20030306downertimor.html

Interestingly, Labor MP Joel Fitzgibbon attempted to have it tabled in
Parliament yesterday but was unsuccessful.

Jonathan Morrow, meantime, was quoted on ABC TV news last night
criticising Downer's behaviour: "These pressure tactics will be seen to
be unhelpful and unnecessary. They were never needed."

The text of the November 27 ministerial meeting makes plain Downer's
boorish behaviour. Alkatiri tries to calm Downer, pleading: "Don't get
upset, please speak calmly on this issue".

Downer then berates Alkatiri for not accepting Australia's "generous"
offer: "I think your Western advisers give you very poor advice that
public opinion supports East Timor in Australia," Downer told Alkatiri.
" We are very tough. We will not care if you give information to the
media. Let me give you a tutorial in politics - not a chance."

Downer's patronising and colonialist demeanor is part of a pattern of
behaviour by Australian interests during as episode sure to damage our
image internationally. US Oil company sources have confirmed to us that
their Australian counterparts went ruthlessly trying to exploit the new
and inexperienced East Timor administration by renegotiating the
lucrative Greater Sunrise field deal."

..........................................................................................................

Well done folks - maybe we can shove some South Pacific nations around as dessert? Oh - we already do that...
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LarryBS
 
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Reply Sun 9 Mar, 2003 07:00 am
He should just bribe them like bush and powell are becoming so adept at. Thats it, have him call george for advice.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 9 Mar, 2003 07:31 am
Hmmmmmmmmm......
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 9 Mar, 2003 07:38 am
Oh dear, oh dear! I couldn't bear to read the whole transcript, dlowan, once I got the drift of how the meeting went.
Shame on the Australian government!! I whole-heartedly agree with Bob Brown's assessment of the episode. Bullying, clear & simple!
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 9 Mar, 2003 08:22 am
yes - Adelaide is deeply ashamed - we grew him.
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gezzy
 
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Reply Sun 9 Mar, 2003 10:44 am
Doesn't look good Deb :-(
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 9 Mar, 2003 03:01 pm
Heehee - gotta love the person who leaked!

Wouldn't it be wonderful if people from all over the world leaked these things? What a thing, to have the powerful accountable for their words and behaviour in private?

I guess the wheels and deals of the world would stop dead in their tracks.....

They gotta be looking for the "culprit" big-time - I would bet on an Australian - I suspect Alkatiri's people are too loyal - it is a young government and he, poor man, was aghast at the leak.
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Mr Stillwater
 
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Reply Sun 9 Mar, 2003 08:39 pm
Sat's SMH ran with that story - and also that 'Downer of the FO' (so why doesn't he?) ripped into his Norwegian counterpart a couple of years back over a certain 'border incident'.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 9 Mar, 2003 08:51 pm
We have a border with Norway?!

Just kidding
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pueo
 
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Reply Sun 9 Mar, 2003 11:18 pm
dlowan wrote:
yes - Adelaide is deeply ashamed - we grew him.


you guys (adelaide) seem to grow off the wall people. wasn't rupert from there?
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gezzy
 
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Reply Sun 9 Mar, 2003 11:27 pm
Just don't start kicking me around, ok. I bruise easily.
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Mr Stillwater
 
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Reply Mon 10 Mar, 2003 12:38 am
Apart from the rollmops in the fridge we didn't mind our Norwegian boarder, Sven, sorry to see him go back home...
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JoanneDorel
 
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Reply Mon 10 Mar, 2003 01:00 am
I saw him on TV the other day and he looked OK, but then he opened his mouth and talked, yikes.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 10 Mar, 2003 01:43 am
Yes, Pueo - alas, we grew Rupert, too.

But then - to counterbalance all that evil - there is MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!
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dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 10 Mar, 2003 01:44 am
Dunno Gezzy - if we have found our kicking shoes, I would say Canada is next!
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gezzy
 
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Reply Mon 10 Mar, 2003 01:47 am
hahaha! Well, I guess I better get ready!
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dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 10 Mar, 2003 02:31 am
hmmmm - we might try to cut our boots on New Zealand - but they is small and feisty - they got Maoris!
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dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 10 Mar, 2003 02:33 am
Heehee - has anyone but me noticed that the first bit of "Australian" fauna mentioned in the introduction to this forum is the New Zealand kiwi? We oughta get insult money....
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gezzy
 
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Reply Mon 10 Mar, 2003 02:38 am
hahahaha!!!!
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Wilso
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2003 04:53 am
Oz government is making a habit of making enemies these day.
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