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Is it bad for a Baptist to go to Catholic Mass?

 
 
Zedd
 
Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2005 06:10 pm
Here's the thing. I'm in college right now and the Baptist church I'm supposed to go to has service/fellowship from 11:30-4:30 on sundays and that is such a HUGE chunk of my time, especially since it is off campus and I have so much schoolwork to do. So often times, I have been going to the hour long Catholic Mass (on campus) instead of going to church.

So do you think this is a bad thing? Should I be doing this? Let me know! Very Happy
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SCoates
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2005 07:02 pm
Well, as neither a baptist, nor a catholic, I would simply ask if it meets your needs. Are you learning and feeling good there?
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2005 07:25 pm
bookmark.
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squinney
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2005 07:45 pm
I'm Methodist. Kids were baptized Baptist cause that's where we were attending at the time, and I'm Godmother to my niece who is Catholic - (like serious Italian Catholic). At her baptism, I was told it was okay for me to stand and be named her Godmother, but I wasn't supposed to take communion for some reason.

I'm good enough to be responsible for the religious training of my niece and provide for her if God forbid something were to happen to her parents, but I'm not good enough to partake of Christs symbolic flesh and blood or something like that.

So, I guess my answer is... Did you see SCoates post above?
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2005 08:01 pm
What would Jesus do if he was carrying 25 semester hours and 2 lab courses?

Oh wait, hed have Sunday off
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2005 08:05 pm
My understanding is that Baptists don't take it well if their tithe is going elsewhere, and since I was taught that you tithe where you attend ... well, it'd be a bad thing.

However, I prefer to think (cuz I'm Lutheran) that where you go to talk to God doesn't really matter, err, as long as there's not too much churchy stuff goin' on.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2005 08:12 pm
I hope you, Zedd, will take from the experience what you need. It is most certainly not wrong for you to try and feed your spiritual needs while trying to save a little of your precious time. (11:30 - 4:30, holy smokes, what are they doing all that time?)

Squinney: (and these are the words of a fallen away, but fairly studious, Catholic) The Catholics are a bit straitlaced about who gets to be a communicant because of the nature of their belief in the sacrament. Briefly put, only those who have been baptized and sufficiently studied in the Catechism. AND have made a recent Act of Contrition and been forgiven for confessed sins (Sacrament of Penance) can partake of the Eucharist. Unlike other Christian sects, the bread and the wine in the Catholic theology are not seen a symbolic, the bread and the wine are the body and blood of Jesus Christ Lord.

The Eucharist is not a symbol of Christ, it is the Body of Christ transubstantiated by the words of the priest at the moment of the Consecration. For Catholics, there is no closer communion with God than through the Sacrament of the Holy Eucharist, and those outside the Church, no matter their uprightness, may not participate.


(Sheesh, that's pretty good for someone who hasn't written about this sort of thing in thirty years or so.)

Joe(Hoc est corpus meaum)Nation
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2005 08:13 pm
like all the Lime jello molds
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Zedd
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2005 08:49 pm
Joe Nation wrote:
I hope you, Zedd, will take from the experience what you need. It is most certainly not wrong for you to try and feed your spiritual needs while trying to save a little of your precious time. (11:30 - 4:30, holy smokes, what are they doing all that time?)


Yea, it's long, because we first have sunday school (1 hr), church service (2 hrs) and then eat/fellowships (2 hrs). So counting road time, it's about that time, and service is in the afternoon cuz few college students can get up in the morning at 8.

SCoates wrote:
Well, as neither a baptist, nor a catholic, I would simply ask if it meets your needs. Are you learning and feeling good there?


Yea, SCoates, I do like it there. I know quite some people who go there. Personally I don't think that much when I go, the chapel is smaller so I really like the setting. I actually didn't question it that much until some people were like i shouldn't go to Mass since I was something else.

btw, I find the Catholic tradition to be quite tedious at times. For instance, I didn't know that in Mass, you take Communion every week.. Anyhow, I didn't take communion or do the water thingy that they do before and after Mass.
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CodeBorg
 
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Reply Wed 13 Apr, 2005 08:51 pm
Rule #1: Everything is bad.
#2: It's because of you.
#3: You must now pay me money.




Only in America. And one day a week, Italy.
Either philosophy will make you poor, or being poor
will make you philosophical. Either way,
you still owe me money.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Thu 14 Apr, 2005 03:33 am
( I told my brother, the priest, that we were talking about this. He was happy that my brain retained the information even if my heart was no longer with it.)

Catholics everywhere may take Communion once a day. In America. the only people who do are little old ladies and my younger brother, the genius marketing expert/number cruncher.

Catholics would probably gain something if they started using the Baptist model of participation. (Sunday School - one hour, - Service - one hour, then eat together.) It's closer, I think to what Christ had in mind for creating communion, small c, amongst the followers. As it is, Catholic education in their own religion is a scattered affair especially after the age of fifteen and there is little, if any, examination of other faiths. Which is why Catholics find themselves struck dumb when someone from the United Church of Christ, or a Methodist, or a Southern Baptist starts quoting chapter and verse to them. We (oops), they, the Catholics, learn the message of the Bible from hearing it read from the altar.

What Catholics do do is join study groups of their own making, Alliance for Peace and Justice, Confraternity, Mothers' Circle, Opus Dei, Newman Centers and many others, but most of the Catholics I've encountered throughout my life, including the ones I will share a fortieth high reunion with this fall, have not been much at inquiring after their faith and have been followers in the truest sense.

Joe(They do know John 3:16, but that's because of the football guy.)Nation
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 14 Apr, 2005 05:54 am
can I get an AMEN?


FARMER(I always thought John 3:16 was a field call) MAN
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Thu 14 Apr, 2005 05:38 pm
I started to say something about the AMENs but I didn't want to be cliche.

Ahem, there are no spontaneous Amens during a Catholic Mass. It's sad really. I asked my brother the priest if folks just blurted stuff out during his sermons, he said no, but that at some churchs he's been to in the US South, (Hickory, NC) there had been. It's a social thing and a spiritual one as well. If the spirit moves you to shout A HH MEn. You should.

I told him about the little church in Robert Lee where I used to help a priest say Mass. The people of Robert Lee have lived there for two hundred years, since before there was a Texas or a Robert Lee, but they don't really speak a lot of English or much real Spanish either. Mostly they have a scattering of both combined with something in between Apache and Comanche. I think mostly they kept silent until they had something to say, something that I have tried and failed to aquire lo these many years. Anyway, if Father went a little too long with his sermon, they would just begin to sing. Then he shrug and start the Eucharist.

Those people loved one another. I miss that.


Joe(ahem....amen...) Nation
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farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 15 Apr, 2005 08:08 am
In my Catholic bringing uppentse, we were always answering stuff in Latin . There was a host of getting up, sitting down, then kneeling, followed by a
"And also with you"
"Amen"

This was the "new" mass , that started as I was just learning to stop fidgeting during the "old" mass. I used to go to mass at St Bonifaces RC (Polak) church as a wee one and all I remeber was alot of

blahski blahski blahski blahski Bozca Aaaaaaaaameeeeyaaan.
Everything in the Church may as well have been recited in Klingon for all I knew. I had to sit there quietly, which, as most of us know is impossible for a kid. I often went to the Russian Orthodox with my Dad (we split religions at our house but even though my dad would often go to the RC church, my mom was convinced that, if she set foot in any "non Catholic" church, she would be instantly consumed in very hot flames and be cast into hell..)


These are the tales of childhood dalliances with myth and ceremony . Fortunately for me, I came out the other side with enough cynicism to be an adopted Missourian and no major fears of stuff like Patent leather or blue jeans. I am not intimedated by guys in drag, and I often give unsolicited advice to trannies that they should accesorize differently. I can thank the Church for all that.
For sheer solemnity though, you cant beat a Good Russian Orthodox service. Ill have to find an onion dome sometime and take in a service and see if my memories are still valid
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yeahman
 
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Reply Fri 15 Apr, 2005 08:41 am
farmerman wrote:
In my Catholic bringing uppentse, we were always answering stuff in Latin . There was a host of getting up, sitting down, then kneeling, followed by a
"And also with you"
"Amen"

That is finally going to change in the next year or so. The draft of the English version of the new Roman Missal has "And also with your spirit" instead. It's all in an effort to be more accurate to the old Latin.
I say just return everything back to Latin and make Mass truely universal again.
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booman2
 
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Reply Fri 15 Apr, 2005 08:12 pm
Anytime you have a right or wrong question, forget religous dichotomy and the opinions other mortals.
Askyourself, "Am I hurting anybody?"
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watchmakers guidedog
 
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Reply Sun 17 Apr, 2005 02:51 am
Very Happy

I wonder what would happen if you took communion more than once per day. Would your head explode? Must try this...
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