Bella Dea wrote:chispita73 wrote:
I was pretty impressed with how quick our dogs learned not to bark. A week later 2 of the neighbors asked if we had gotten rid of the dogs because they hadn't heard any barking.
Of course they stopped barking quickly....barking is now associated with a shock.
Put that collar on yourself and see how much it "doesn't hurt". I worked at a pet store and am very against those shock collars. We were all asked to try them out to see what they were really like because many people want to buy them not knowing how much of a "startle" they send. Almost knocked me down. It hurt.
Bella- I agree the dogs associate barking to the shock, but the only difference between the shock and the collar with the sound is we too can feel the shock.. and not hear the sound. However the outcome is the same. The dogs will associate barking to whatever method is used to stop them from barking.
I'm sure if we could hear the noise they hear we'd think that was cruel too. Besides it's not like we have the collar on them the whole day as punishment.. We give them treats for not barking when they DON'T have the collar on.
I am also against anything that can hurt any helpless animal... they are all "helpless" since they really can't tell us what works for them and what doesn't, we just think we know based on their reaction.
And based on my dogs reaction to the shock collar, they don't like it so they don't bark. They are learning that not barking is a good thing and they get treats.. It was either find a way to "train" them not to bark or get rid of them.. I couldn't let that happen..
