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Journalist Khashoggi’s murder

 
 
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Tue 17 Sep, 2019 10:24 am
@JTT,
Quote:
off topic
says the individual who constantly derails threads with his obsessive WTC nonsense... Rolling Eyes
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 17 Sep, 2019 10:31 am
@Region Philbis,
This thread is about Khashoggi's murder and Saudi Arabia in general. Nobody has complained about it until some attention seeking numpty came along.

And they're only doing it because they're desperate for attention.
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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 17 Sep, 2019 03:22 pm
@Region Philbis,
If you think it is nonsense it ought to be easy for you to show how it is nonsense, RP.

What I was pointing out is that izzy uses that lame bit of nonsense just as you are using it now. And yet izzy and everyone else is always going off topic.
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Tue 17 Sep, 2019 11:24 pm
bump
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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2019 07:23 am
@Region Philbis,
Quote:
says the individual who constantly derails threads with his obsessive WTC nonsense..


You could explain how the Univ of Alaska, Fairbanks study of WTC7 says that NIST's WTC7 is a lie, RF, that it has a ZERO chance of being accurate.

You could explain how you think this is my WTC nonsense when all I do is quote the thousands of architects, engineers, scientists who say the towers were imploded, the usa military scientists I quote describing their PROPRIETARY nanothermite which was found in WTC dust.

You could look at NIST's 3 second WTC7 collapse simulation and note how it looks NOTHING AT ALL LIKE the actual collapse videos of WTC7 taken by numerous media sources and private citizens.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2019 04:18 pm
@JTT,
Go away you pest!
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2019 04:21 pm
@RABEL222,
OUCH!!!!
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Tue 15 Oct, 2019 05:04 pm
@RABEL222,
I'm starting to worry. What happened to JTT? He disappeared around 23 Oct 2014 and didn't reappear until 15 Sept 2019. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any signs of him after 19 Sept 2019????? Maybe he chocked on his own bile.
roger
 
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Reply Tue 15 Oct, 2019 05:10 pm
@glitterbag,
They're probably working up another JTT right now.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Tue 15 Oct, 2019 07:15 pm
@roger,
Oh swell.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Wed 16 Oct, 2019 07:04 pm
@glitterbag,
Quote:
He disappeared around 23 Oct 2014 and didn't reappear until 15 Sept 2019


Well the first date is the day Alvin Stardust died, the second is the day Ric Ocasek died. And on the 19th a St. Louis 9-Year-Old Sneaks Cheese Into Class In Chapstick Bottle

I think I made my point.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 17 Oct, 2019 01:04 am
@hingehead,
hingehead wrote:


Well the first date is the day Alvin Stardust died,



And the roads are a lot less safe as a result.



Looking at the vid it's just as well they chose Alvin Stardust to be the voice of the Green Cross Code and not Gary Glitter.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 23 Dec, 2019 04:41 am
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A court in Saudi Arabia has sentenced five people to death and jailed three others over the murder of the journalist Jamal Khashoggi last year.

Khashoggi, a prominent critic of the Saudi government, was killed inside the kingdom's consulate in the Turkish city of Istanbul by a team of Saudi agents.

The Saudi public prosecutor said it was the result of a "rogue operation" and put 11 unnamed individuals on trial.

A UN expert has concluded that it was an "extrajudicial execution".

Special Rapporteur Agnes Callamard called for Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman to be investigated over the killing.

He has denied any involvement, but in October he said he took "full responsibility as a leader in Saudi Arabia, especially since it was committed by individuals working for the Saudi government".


More at link.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-50890633
RABEL222
 
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Reply Mon 23 Dec, 2019 11:15 am
@izzythepush,
The Saudi's are almost as good at the political propaganda game as the Russians.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 23 Dec, 2019 11:22 am
@RABEL222,
They've been paying rich Westerners far longer than Putin.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 23 Dec, 2019 04:36 pm
@izzythepush,
I wonder if MBS will find it harder to get hit men to follow his orders from now on.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Mon 23 Dec, 2019 05:47 pm
@hingehead,
I doin't the Prince is too concerned.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 24 Dec, 2019 01:46 am
@hingehead,
I don't think they have much choice, let's face it decapitation is better than what Khashoggi endured.
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revelette3
 
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Reply Fri 27 Dec, 2019 10:27 am
@glitterbag,
Quote:
There is nothing to show that Prince Mohammed has been humbled by the global outcry over the murder, as he has continued to crack down against any sign of dissent in his kingdom. The cynical conclusion is that he staged the trial and threw a few underlings to the dogs to give friendly foreign leaders — including President Trump and Mr. Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who has a chummy relationship with the prince — a pretext for carrying on with business as usual.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/26/opinion/jamal-khashoggi-saudi-arabia.html
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 7 Mar, 2020 02:48 am
Not Saudi Arabia, but the same ball park.

Quote:
Abduction, forced return, torture and a campaign of intimidation. On Thursday the damning allegations made against the billionaire ruler of Dubai, Sheikh Mohammed Bin Rashid Al-Maktoum, by his former wife, Princess Haya Bint Al-Hussain, became established fact, published in a series of judgements by the High Court in London.

Following a high-profile case that began eight months ago, the court has published a Fact Finding Judgement (FFJ) in favour of Princess Haya who fled Dubai last year, along with her two children, telling friends she was in fear of her life.

Sheikh Mohammed had tried, unsuccessfully, to keep the judgement out of the public domain but his appeal was rejected after the case was ruled to be in the public interest. The ruler of Dubai was found to have "not been open and honest with the court".

In a statement issued after the judgements were published, Sheikh Mohammed said: "As a head of government, I was not able to participate in the court's fact-finding process. This has resulted in the release of a 'fact-finding' judgment which inevitably only tells one side of the story."

He insisted the case was a private matter. "I ask that the media respect the privacy of our children and do not intrude into their lives in the UK," he said.

After hearing extensive witness statements over a period of time, the court found Sheikh Mohammed to have been responsible for the abduction and forced return of two of his daughters from another marriage.

Sheikha Shamsa fled the family's UK estate in Surrey in 2000 but was later abducted in Cambridgeshire by agents of the sheikh and forcibly returned to Dubai where she remains in captivity. A request by Cambridgeshire Police to visit Dubai to investigate her abduction was refused.

Sheikha Latifa made two unsuccessful attempts to flee her father's family, in 2002 and 2018. After the first she was imprisoned by her father in Dubai for over three years. In the second attempt she was abducted at sea off the Indian coast and forcibly returned to Dubai, where she remains under house arrest. The judge found her allegations of serious physical abuse amounting to torture, made by Latifa in a public video, to be credible.

The judge found that Sheikh Mohammed "continues to maintain a regime whereby both these two young women are deprived of their liberty".

Princess Haya of Jordan, 45, a daughter of the late King Hussain and a former Olympic equestrian, married Sheikh Mohammed of Dubai, 70, in 2004, becoming the sixth and youngest of his wives. They have two children, aged seven and 11.

Initially she believed his explanations of what had happened to the two princesses, namely that they had been "rescued" and were now safe with the family.

But by early 2019 Princess Haya had become suspicious and voiced her concerns. She had also begun an adulterous affair with her British bodyguard.

A campaign of intimidation by Sheikh Mohammed's agents began and the court heard that a gun was twice placed on her pillow with the safety catch off. A helicopter landed outside her house with a threat to remove her to a remote desert prison.

The judge ruled that "the father has therefore acted in a manner from the end of 2018 which has been aimed at intimidating and frightening the mother, and that he has encouraged others to do so on his behalf".

In April 2019 Princess Haya fled to Britain, taking her two children with her. The court heard how veiled threats from Sheikh Mohammed had left her terrified for her own safety, as well as fears that her children could be abducted and forcibly returned to Dubai.

In May 2019 she said he told her: "You and the children will never be safe in England". He published a poem entitled: "You lived, you died".

The court heard how the Sheikh had used his media contacts to generate a series of negative articles about Princess Haya, many of which were "wholly inaccurate".

These judgements, and the allegations upheld by them, are clearly a huge personal embarrassment to Sheikh Mohammed Al-Maktoum. It is hardly surprising therefore that his legal team tried their best to keep them out of the public domain.

In his latest statement, he said: "The appeal was made to protect the best interests and welfare of the children. The outcome does not protect my children from media attention in the way that other children in family proceedings in the UK are protected."

While his former wife, Princess Haya, has a relatively low profile, Sheikh Mohammed is a global figure in the horseracing world where he is the owner and founder of Godolphin Stables.

He has often been photographed with the Queen. He is also a renowned figure across the Middle East, responsible for transforming the emirate of Dubai into the massive tourism, leisure and business destination it has become.

The rulings have been welcomed by human rights campaigners.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-51756984
 

 
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