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Far-right activists banned from entering Britain

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 01:59 pm
@izzythepush,
Actually, the plans prepared by twelve members of the right-wing extremist terror cell are really threatening: armed men were supposed to attack praying people in mosques - and thus provoke civil war-like conditions.

Fortunately, they are now in custody. The early intervention of the security forces was right and important. Because these plans could have led to a massacre. Last spring, one right-wing terrorist killed 51 Muslims in two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand. It is hard to imagine the scale of the attack: ten attacks on mosques in ten federal states.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 02:15 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
This is The Turner Diaries, far right bible, belief that attacks like this will somehow trigger a race war, and everyone else will have no choice but to get behind it. It's chilling, and it's also complete nonsense because when something like this happens communities come together.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 04:55 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
Actually, the plans prepared by twelve members of the right-wing extremist terror cell are really threatening: armed men were supposed to attack praying people in mosques - and thus provoke civil war-like conditions.

Any worse than blowing up a bus? What could possibly be the reason for killing Muslims. Think hard now.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 10:48 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
What could possibly be the reason for killing Muslims. Think hard now.
You mean they lied, and there was a different reason?
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 11:02 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
You mean they lied, and there was a different reason?

You do not answer a questions with a question.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 11:34 pm
@coldjoint,
Well, I just asked because even their defence layers obviously didn't think hard enough.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 17 Feb, 2020 11:41 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
Well, I just asked because even their defence layers obviously didn't think hard enough.

I think you got up too early. Get some rest.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 18 Feb, 2020 02:19 am
@Walter Hinteler,
At least in Germany they lock the Nazis up, over here they advise the prime minister.

Quote:
Downing Street has said its adviser Andrew Sabisky has resigned, following criticism of alleged past remarks on pregnancies, eugenics and race.

Labour had called for Mr Sabisky to go for reportedly saying black people had lower average IQs than white people.

He is also alleged to have said compulsory contraception could prevent "creating a permanent underclass".

Mr Sabisky tweeted: "I wanted to help the government not be a distraction... accordingly I've decided to resign."

"I know this will disappoint a lot of people but I signed up to do real work, not be in the middle of a giant character assassination," it continued.

"If I can't do the work properly there's no point, and I have a lot of other things to do with my life."

Mr Sabisky had been appointed earlier this year after the prime minister's chief adviser Dominic Cummings called for "misfits and weirdos" to apply for jobs in Downing Street.

When asked earlier, Downing Street did not comment on the remarks attributed to Mr Sabisky.

Boris Johnson's spokesman said at the time: "The prime minister's views on a range of subjects are well publicised and documented."

Responding to news of the resignation, Labour Party chairman Ian Lavery said: "It's right that Andrew Sabisky is no longer working in government.

"After No 10 publicly stood by him today, Boris Johnson has serious questions to answer about how this appointment was made and whether he agrees with his vile views."

In a comment on a 2014 blog post on Mr Cummings' website, made by a user called "Andrew Sabisky", it is suggested that compulsory contraception could be used to stop a "permanent underclass".

"One way to get around the problems of unplanned pregnancies creating a permanent underclass would be to legally enforce universal uptake of long-term contraception at the onset of puberty," says the post.

"Vaccination laws give it a precedent, I would argue."

In a comment on another blog post on a different website in 2014, what appears to be the same user suggested black Americans had a lower average IQ than white Americans.

In a comment on a different blog that same year, a user with his name said: "There are excellent reasons to think the very real racial differences in intelligence are significantly - even mostly - genetic in origin, though the degree is of course a very serious subject of scholarly debate."

Mr Sabisky also suggested to Schools Week in July 2016 that the benefits of a purported cognitive enhancer, which can prove fatal, are "probably worth a dead kid once a year".

"Eugenics are about selecting 'for' good things," he said in the same interview. "Intelligence is largely inherited and it correlates with better outcomes: physical health, income, lower mental illness.

And in a Twitter post from 2019, he said: "I am always straight up in saying that women's sport is more comparable to the Paralympics than it is to men's."

Mr Sabisky's comments, and the government's reaction to the remarks, were criticised by opposition parties as well as members of the prime minister's own party.

Acting Liberal Democrat leader Ed Davey had called the government "a national embarrassment".

While Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said: "These are really not acceptable headlines for any government to be generating."

Tory MP William Wragg also attacked the government's decision to appoint him, tweeting: "Andrew Sabisky's presence in No 10 is a poor reflection on the government... 'Weirdos' and 'misfits' are all very well, but please can they not gratuitously cause offence."


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51538493
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 18 Feb, 2020 01:53 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
At least in Germany they lock the Nazis up, over here they advise the prime minister.

You calling someone a Nazi means they are probably a person concerned with saving your culture from Islam. You are content to see children raped and terror attacks as the new normal.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 18 Feb, 2020 02:19 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
You calling someone a Nazi means they are probably a person concerned with saving your culture from Islam.

a) it's not one person but twelve are in custody,
b) they wanted "civil war-like conditions" after launching several simultaneous mass-casualty assaults on Muslims during prayers, "Christchurch-style attacks" in ten states they called it.

Of course, supporters of a "Greater Germanic Reich" (Wodans Erben Germanien, "Wotan's Germanic Heirs") mustn't be Nazis but can be just concerned citizens who want to save the Germanic culture from well, not only Islam but Christianity, Hinduism etc.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 18 Feb, 2020 02:30 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
a) it's not one person but twelve are in custody,

No ****?
Quote:
b) they wanted "civil war-like conditions"

Izzy is not talking about them.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 19 Feb, 2020 12:57 pm
In 2019, more than 900 known (!) right-wing extremists in Germany possessed a gun licence.

Starting tomorrow (20.02.2020) the following will apply: anyone applying for a firearms license will be checked by the Office for the Protection of the Constitution. If the person is known to be an extremist, he or she will not be granted a gun license.

coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 19 Feb, 2020 12:59 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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If the person is known to be an extremist, he or she will not be granted a gun license.

Fascism at its finest. Who determines who are extremists? The local Imans?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 19 Feb, 2020 01:09 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
]Fascism at its finest. Who determines who are extremists? The local Imans?
Extremists are those persons who are assigned to the outermost edges of the political spectrum beyond the free democratic basic order.
The Federal Constitutional Court decides such as the final institution
As far as I know, none of the court's judges is an Iman. (Nor was an Iman involved when we got the Basic Law [Constitution])
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 19 Feb, 2020 01:15 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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Extremists are those persons who are assigned to the outermost edges of the political spectrum beyond the free democratic basic order.

Again, who determines that? Your government overreach is fascism. Just admit that your citizens are anything but free and face all kinds of scrutiny because of your governments stupid and suicidal immigration policies.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 19 Feb, 2020 01:28 pm
@coldjoint,
Well, it might be that we are not free in your eyes - our constitution was approved on 8 May 1949 - the three Western military governors authorised our parliamentary council to do such.

The Weapon Law, btw, is a law, not a cabinet decision by the government (Together with the Bundesrat, the Bundestag is the legislative branch of the German political system.)
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 19 Feb, 2020 01:43 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
Well, it might be that we are not free in your eyes

Correct. Just leave it at that.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 19 Feb, 2020 01:51 pm
@coldjoint,
So I lived all my life (besides the first couple of months) as an unfree.

I don't want to change that and go on to defend our constitution, even if people like you want it differently.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 19 Feb, 2020 02:00 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
So I lived all my life (besides the first couple of months) as an unfree.

Don't let it bring you down. You seem to enjoy it.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 19 Feb, 2020 02:07 pm
@coldjoint,
I never said something different.

Above I wrote:
I don't want to change that and go on to defend our constitution, even if people like you want it differently.
 

 
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