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@coldjoint,

You might think so.
It goes back to Saxon tradition, written ca. 1220 as a record of existing customary law, the Sassen Speyghel ("Saxon Mirror"), one of the first prose works written in the Middle Low German language. It was one those rights, mainly used by peasants, farmers farmers, and day labourers against the nobility and superiors.
The "iniuria" of the (antique) Roman law became "injure" as a kind of combination of the tribal Saxon law with the more Christian influenced law of the Holy Roman Empire.

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@Walter Hinteler,

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You might think so.

I know this.

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"Allah's Apostle said, 'I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror.'" (Sahih Al-Bukhari 122)

How does one read verses in the Quran such as:

"I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers. Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them. This is because they contended against Allah and His Messenger. If any contend against Allah and His Messenger, Allah is strict in punishment." (8:12-13)?

You have questions you refuse to answer. Why? How about those verses, how would you interpret those?

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When it is said that Islam has nothing to do with verses such as these, is that meant to appease Muslims, comfort the victims of Islamic terror or support the comfort of the non-Muslim community? If it is the first, well, as history teaches, appeasement simply does not work.

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10521/intolerant-culture

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'Islam shouldn't culturally shape Germany' - Alexander Dobrindt claims

Another Nazi?

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'Islam shouldn't culturally shape Germany' - Alexander Dobrindt claims

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A leading German politician has dug his heels in to the debate over Islam in Germany. In an interview, Alexander Dobrindt said he wasn't discriminating against Muslims, but that Islam "has no cultural roots in Germany."
Alexander Dobrindt speaks in the Bundestag (picture-alliance/dpa/B. von Jutrczenka)

Alexander Dobrindt, the leader of the Christian Social Union's (CSU) parliamentary party, defended against criticism on Wednesday that his conservative Bavarian party was seeking to marginalize Muslims while doubling down on the stance that "Islam is not part of Germany."

http://www.dw.com/en/islam-shouldnt-culturally-shape-germany-alexander-dobrindt-claims/a-43335131

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@coldjoint,

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Another Nazi?

Besides that he is a leading member of the Christian Social Union (CSU, the even more to the right Bavarian sister party of the CDU), he's born in 1970.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Besides that he is

I asked if you think he is a Nazi, pay attention, Wally. Or is that "besides" of yours mean yes?

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@coldjoint,

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I asked if you think he is a Nazi

Walter Hinteler wrote:

...he is a leading member of the Christian Social Union (CSU) ... he's born in 1970.

Walter Hinteler wrote:

The NSDAP still had had 8.5 million members before it was abolished on 10 October 1945 by the Allied Control Council.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Should I have asked if he was a neo Nazi? Islam is not part of German culture, do you agree?

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@coldjoint,

He is not a neo-Nazi.
He is Bavarian, so I don't accept Hax'n and Lederhosen to be "German culture".

The Muslim community has actually had a presence in Germany for hundreds of years. Nowadays between 5.4 to 5.7 percent of the German population are Muslims, nearly 50% of those have the German nationality.
[A German nationality only exists since 1913, Germany only since 1871.]

The discussion here is not about "German culure" (in German Kultur ("culture") has a different meaning than used in the USA) but if Islam is part of Germany.
This debate is dishonest. Because it's not about the proto-ideology of Islam. Islam, like all other religions, is nothing more than a precursor of modern ideologies. In fact, it's about people: Which we want here and which we don't? Who is a threat to be fended off? Who is to be welcomed as an enrichment?

The brutal and forced conversion to Christianity of an entire people reached its symbolic climax in 772 AD when the Frankish Emperor Charlemagne massacred 30,000 Saxons who refused conversion.
Since that time (in the East some decades later) Germany became a Christian country, Catholic, to be precise.
500 hundred years ago, we got the Reformation, 400 years ago as a result of the that the 30-years war. And since that time, we were divided in Catholic and Evangelical/Protestant countries.

I was quite happy that all this religious nonsense had stopped.
It starts again. But freedom of religion in Germany is guaranteed by article 4 of the Basic Law (constitution).
Our constitution doesn't differ between religions belonging to Germany or not.

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@coldjoint,

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Hello Walter, please ignore the clod that thinks it's fun to call you Wally.

I don't think it is funny, I think it is hilarious that it bothers anyone.

And I am beside myself, and struggling not to burst out laughing that you imagine anything you say bothers ANYBODY!!!!!. We all know people like you, a little awkward and kind of pissy pants, and in our real lives we can limit the amount of time we spend with crashing bores....unless of course you (or similar resentment fueled zealot) is married to our sister . I suppose something about you might be charming even if I can't suss it out. But the joyful news is, I can put you on ignore and avoid you as long as I wish. I can peek in every so often if I'm curious........and then block you out again. No muss, no fuss. But it's good to know you glean some sort of psychic income from your nonsense. It would really suck if it was all for naught.

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@Walter Hinteler,

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The brutal and forced conversion to Christianity of an entire people reached its symbolic climax in 772 AD when the Frankish Emperor Charlemagne massacred 30,000 Saxons who refused conversion.

Oh, I didn't know that( I did), but that reason alone is good enough to let Islam kill people now.

Your replies are idiotic. You have yet to deal with the truth about Islam. I figure you do not because the lack of an argument that proves anything else that what I have said about it.

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@glitterbag,

That is only fair, I do the same with you. Get help with your obsessions.

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@coldjoint,

It is amazing how similar Coldjoint and Izzy are. They both are completely sure of their ideology, and completely unable to consider any points of view might be valid.

Izzy is wrong about free speech. Coldjoint is wrong about Islam (I can list several ways that Islam benefited Europe including algebra, a base 10 numbering system, great food including shwarma, literature and some pretty amazing architectural advancements.).

They are on opposite sides of the political fence. But I bet if I posted an Izzy post and a Coldjoint post... removing only the word "Muslim" and "Nazi" from each, no one could tell the difference.

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@maxdancona,

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I can list several ways that Islam benefited Europe including algebra, a base 10 numbering system, great food including shwarma, literature and some pretty amazing architectural advancements.).

Islam inherited algebra from the Greeks, as everybody else did, Newton turned it into calculus. The numerical system is Hindu in origin.

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Two Indian mathematicians are credited with developing it. Aryabhata of Kusumapura developed the place-value notation in the 5th century and a century later Brahmagupta introduced the symbol for zero. The numeral system and the zero concept, developed by the Hindus in India, slowly spread to other surrounding countries due to their commercial and military activities with India. The Arabs adopted and modified it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numeral_system
You do not invent what you adopt. Islam contributions are mainly myths or revisionist history.

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It is amazing how similar Coldjoint and Izzy are.

One has balls, the other does not. I am competent in my manhood, Izzy exhibits no masculinity just like his government.

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What do you think? Is this what to do in Europe? I can't see why countries delay the inevitable, they already fine and jail their citizens for telling the truth about Islam.

Should a group you cannot criticize even exist in a free society? When it does, no one is free. Europe is well on its way, maybe they should incorporate what they already enforce.

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The Turkish foreign minister on Wednesday urged European countries to include Islamophobia as a crime in their constitution, without waiting for a Holocaust-like situation to unfold.

"We should ensure that Islamophobia is included in [European] constitution as a crime clearly," Mevlut Cavusoglu said during an event at capital Ankara marked to unveil the latest European Islamophobia Report (EIR).

"There is no need to relive Auschwitz or wait for Muslims to be burned in gas chambers like Jewish people," he said, referring to the Nazi concentration camp in Poland and the Holocaust.

https://www.albawaba.com/news/turkish-fm-calls-european-states-criminalize-islamophobia-their-constitutions-1115922

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@coldjoint,

hahahahahahahahaha

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@glitterbag,

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hahahahahahahahaha

Put the mirror down and back away slowly, feel better? Although Europe would be funny, if it was not so sad.

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We've issued a statement this evening to make people aware that social media posts which are being posted in relation to Alder Hey and the Alfie Evans situation are being monitored and may be acted upon. Read the full statement here:

Heil Hitler!!!

That statement is on twitter in the UK from the police. I can only interpret that life is a decision of the state, and its sanctity is now determined by your
comments and if they fall in line, I would be ashamed.

I'll be looking out my windows for the Bobbbies. Shocked

https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/uk-police-warn-people-not-to-speak-out-against-terrible-treatment-of-alfie-evans/

Again who are the Nazis here?

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@coldjoint,

That's some crazy ****.

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@McGentrix,

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That's some crazy ****.

Those people are watching their country and their culture being destroyed and cannot say a thing about it. That is not crazy, it is tyranny

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@maxdancona,

maxdancona wrote:

It is amazing how similar Coldjoint and Izzy are. They both are completely sure of their ideology, and completely unable to consider any points of view might be valid.

Izzy is wrong about free speech. Coldjoint is wrong about Islam

Except Coldjoint isn't wrong.

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