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Far-right activists banned from entering Britain

 
 
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2018 12:24 pm
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UK: Muslim migrant spits at cops, showers them with racist abuse, is spared jail


No, Islam is not appeased.
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“When approached for shouting whilst under the influence, the accused told police to ‘f*** off’ and called them ‘b*******’. He then began to kick and jump on shop shutters and refused to desist. When transported to Cathcart Police Station, Abdalla racially abused the officers and spat towards a constable….Abdalla will be supervised for a year and will have to complete 100 hours of unpaid work within three months.”

Compare: Britain First’s “leader, Paul Golding, was sentenced to 18 weeks in prison, while deputy, Jayda Fransen, was sentenced to 36 weeks on Wednesday. They had each been found guilty of religiously aggravated harassment at Folkestone magistrate’s court earlier the same day. “These defendants were not merely exercising their right to free speech
but were instead aiming religiously aggravated abuse at innocent members of the public,’ the prosecutor told the court.”

Do they think people do not notice? Do they think Islam is using this to their advantage? Sure they do.
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/03/uk-muslim-migrant-spits-at-cops-showers-them-with-racist-abuse-is-spared-jail
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centrox
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2018 12:55 pm
Spitting at cops while drunk is simple assault and/or disorderly behaviour, it happens all the time, especially on Friday and Saturday night, he got the standard punishment. I daresay if he had just shut up when the cops told him to, they'd have let him go, or even driven him home. They do this whether a person is black, white, Muslim, Christian or whatever. Racist harassment of innocent members of the public by people with a political agenda, leaders of a party in fact, is a serious crime. If you don't like our laws, don't come here.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2018 01:01 pm
@centrox,
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while racist harassment is a serious crime. If you don't like our laws, don't come here.


Islam is not a race, genius. And what makes you think your intimidated and cowed leaders would let me in?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2018 01:32 pm
@coldjoint,
Read (if you can) the Prosecution Guidance by the Crown Prosecution Service (last revised: 27 March 2018). Though it is in English, it can be understood even by an American.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2018 01:41 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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Though it is in English, it can be understood even by an American.

A lot is understood by Americans, as some legal garbage will explain the obvious terror in offending Islam and that any appeasement will not change what Islam says and what some Muslims believe and act on.

Anything else that you think somehow makes what I said nothing but fact?

Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2018 01:43 pm
@coldjoint,
Well, in England they understand their laws differently to your legal opinion.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2018 01:49 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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Well, in England they understand....


the leaders know Islam will win and they prefer to be eaten last. The subjects will be chewed on, raped, and killed until that time comes and they best not dare to complain about it.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 1 Apr, 2018 12:00 pm
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We live in a post-free speech era," Robinson told RT.

"Since talking about Islam, I've faced Government persecution, police persecution, violent opposition and that's all for expressing my free speech and criticism of an ideology. We have laws for that (hate speech) and those laws are not implemented across everyone equally.


He is right, and the actions of the UK's authorities prove him right again, and again.
https://www.rt.com/uk/422709-tommy-robinson-free-speech/
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 1 Apr, 2018 12:02 pm
@coldjoint,
Your government has registered RT as an agent of a foreign government, btw.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 1 Apr, 2018 12:05 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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Your government has registered RT as an agent of a foreign government, btw.


Truth is truth , Wally.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 1 Apr, 2018 12:07 pm
@coldjoint,
Correct: RT is a Russian propaganda media.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 1 Apr, 2018 12:10 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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Correct: RT is a Russian propaganda media.


Remember propaganda has truths in it. The truth here is that the UK is silencing free speech for no other reason than appeasement of Islam. That is a fact.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 1 Apr, 2018 12:24 pm
@coldjoint,
You see, coldjoint, we have had a very, very dark history here, namely the Nazi-period.
I've tried to take you seriously. But I can't discuss with an open supporter of Nazis.

A fraylekhn Pesah and happy Easter!
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 1 Apr, 2018 12:27 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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But I can't discuss with an open supporter of Nazis.


Then you must be talking to yourself. I could care less what and who you choose to discuss or not discuss anything. Whatever you think I am will not change one fact about the actions of the UK's government, will it?

I thought you were above name calling to end a discussion, I was wrong. You are just another apologist for Islam. Bye Wally.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 1 Apr, 2018 01:02 pm
An afterthought: Nazis do not support free speech. I have made it quite clear that I do. The UK government does not. Who is the Nazi?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 14 Apr, 2018 09:10 am
Anti-Muslim campaigners denied entry to UK at border
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Two prominent anti-Muslim campaigners have been denied entry into the UK ahead of a conference held by Britain’s newest and most active far-right group.

Martin Sellner, from Austria, and the Hungarian Abel Bodi were due to attend the private Generation Identity conference in London on Saturday. They were detained at Stansted airport – the second time in a month that Sellner, the leader of Generation Identity, has been prevented from entering the UK by border officials.

Sellner, 29, was also the ringleader behind a controversial “Defend Europe” campaign last summer, responsible for targeting boats attempting to rescue migrants in the Mediterranean.

Lauren Southern, a prominent Generation Identity activist who was refused entry to the UK at the border last month, confirmed the latest developments. She tweeted: “Martin Sellner has been detained as well as Hungarian identitarian Abel Bodi who were scheduled to attend a private conference in the UK.”

The event, being held at a closely guarded location, was arranged by Generation Identity United Kingdom and Ireland (GI UK), which has emerged over the past few months as the domestic branch of an expanding far-right network active in 13 countries.

Campaigners say GI UK has adopted a different approach to other anti-Muslim groups such as the English Defence League (EDL), with a primarily young and tech-savvy membership.

“GI’s more ‘respectable’ appearance, slick social media work, distinct iconography and disciplined public face masks an extreme ideology. The core beliefs of GI, such as ‘ethnopluralism’ and ‘remigration’, are far more extreme and race-based than anything posited by groups like the EDL,” said Joe Mulhall of Hope Not Hate.

The anti-racism campaign group says GI UK has conducted at least 88 UK actions and meetings since July 2017 in cities including London, Manchester, Portsmouth, Birmingham, Belfast, Wrexham and Glasgow.

But it remains relatively small: GI UK has just 7,445 followers on Twitter and its first major demonstration, held in Hyde Park in London last month, attracted 40 people.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 14 Apr, 2018 10:31 am
@Walter Hinteler,
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Anti-Muslim campaigners denied entry to UK at border


The title is misleading, and it is that way on purpose. Anti-Islam is not anti-Muslim the way you want it to be. Muslims are individuals, Islam is an ideology/religion. That ideology says they must dominate the world and enforce Sharia. It is clear all Muslims do not feel or act that way. But it is also clear there are ones that do.

The one sided, avoid the whole truth crap you post is an apology for Islam and to Islam. People and governments like you signal to the Islamic movement you are ready to be walked on and subdued.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 14 Apr, 2018 10:48 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
The title is misleading, and it is that way on purpose. Anti-Islam is not anti-Muslim the way you want it to be.
Martin Sellner definitely is anti-Muslim. You should brush up your German if you didn't get what he is saying and publishing.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 14 Apr, 2018 11:00 am
@Walter Hinteler,
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Martin Sellner definitely is anti-Muslim.

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Martin Sellner definitely is anti-Muslim.

That only sounds better to apologists like yourself. Would you be good enough to answer my questions about who are the Nazis in this case? The UK is restricting speech it does not agree with, that is Nazi like. To say it is not is a lie.

I had other questions too.

Is Muhammad the first and last word in Islam?
Name one positive thing Islam has done for Europe.
What does the religion say about non-Muslims, and tell me why it is not considered hate speech by sanctimonious cowards?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 14 Apr, 2018 11:23 am
@coldjoint,
Martin Sellner is the Justin Bieber of the [Austrian] neo-Nazis.
 

 
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