nimh wrote:Moishe3rd wrote:Sixty years later; only today; there is a brief glimmering in some places such as the United States, that perhaps Israel needs to exist and be strong.
The State of Israel is indeed the only sane response to Auschwitz.
I do not believe that those German and French statesman memorializing Auschwitz this week have a clue as to this fact.
I appreciate much of the feeling in your post, Moishe. I do not agree with Israel's occupation of the Palestine territories, but surely you're right: the foundation of Israel is rooted in it having been the only refuge for Jews after the WW2, when even Holocaust survivers were received back with hostility, sometimes even agression (think of the post-war pogroms in Hungary and Poland).
On your particular paragraph here, though, I would like to observe a wondrous thing. Berlin now again has a larger Jewish population than any time since WW2. Furthermore, I believe (Walter?) it now actually has the largest Jewish population in Europe.
fbaezer wrote:Diplomacy blunders aside, on this side of the Atlantic very few know how to dress properly.
Please forgive us.
Cheney certainly knew how to dress properly at Bush's inauguration ... thats no excuse.
Subjectively speaking, it's great that Jews feel safe and secure in Berlin.
Objectively speaking, Jews felt safe and secure in Berlin 75 to 100 years ago too. It was the "new Jerusalem" for tens of thousands of Jews.
That didn't work out too well.
The fact is, I have very good friends who are fellow Americans who believe that "it could happen here." I vehemently disagree in that I consider the United States unique in the history of man (it has, since its inception, never persecuted Jews by either law or custom), but I also believe that it would be very difficult to institute Jewish pogroms in any country due to the fact that I believe Israel would attack.
And that is my main point.
Berlin may be wonderful today.
But if a new Anschluss ever came directed against Jews, I believe that Israel is the only answer to Auschwitz.
And, although I disagree with my friend vis a vis the US, based on the current state of events in the world, there is no reason to believe that some country in the world couldn't suddenly decide to pack up all of its Jews in cattle cars again.
I do not believe Israel would ever let this happen.