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The Disadvantaged Many: "Why?"

 
 
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Bibliophile the BibleGuru
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jan, 2005 03:02 pm
Why just "the blacks"? What about the "yellows, browns and reds"? Are we all not humans, equal in aspiration?
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theantibuddha
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jan, 2005 03:23 pm
Currently we have a world where if a person made a racist comment most people around them would either assume it was a joke, or give them a strange look.

But probably one day in the future if two very white guys worked with a black woman and a new guy came to work with them who said something about her being a black woman, one would probably say "She's black!?" and the other would say "She's a woman?!"...

People will continue to get better. It's been happening rather steadily and should continue to do so.

But all of humanity is a single species. The difference between "races" is incredibly small, genetically speaking.
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paul andrew bourne
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jan, 2005 09:36 am
"Racial Remark"
Paul Andrew Bourne, MSc. (candidate); BSc. (Hons); Dip. Edu.



The issue of equality of the races is not a new discourse. This situation dates back to early civilization. 'Man' has always sought a place to hide his/her biases beneath the disguise of supremacy of perception; and there is a myth of equality by terminology. This position has oftentimes resulted in the marginalization of groups. The examples here are the Nazi relationship with the Jews, the colonization of the world by the Europeans, the invasion of sovereign nations by other states and the issue of dominance of one race over another that result in the introduction of slavery.

Some persons sideline the issue of race as if there is equality of the races in today's market place. This is the "fartherest" from the ontology as was even highlighted by the President of the United States.

There is no such thing as the equality of the races.

Therefore, author's position stands "When will the Blacks be elevated to place of equality?"

The appointed of Dr. Rice to a place of high status cannot be used to equate the equality of opportunities of the Blacks, as the disparity between the ratio of Blacks to Caucasian in post of authority is approximately 1 to 4 respectively.


This is not an issue of simple racism or bigotry but a point of principle of justice for a group of people who are continuously having to interface with bigotry within our societies.

Let us reopen this discourse, "is racism dead" and "are peoples of all races treated justly?"
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theantibuddha
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2005 02:07 am
Re: "Racial Remark"
Just clearing up a few questions here.

paul andrew bourne wrote:
Paul Andrew Bourne, MSc. (candidate); BSc. (Hons); Dip. Edu.

The Anti-Buddha, Cert IV (Screen); Second place ribbon (double-mini trampolining); Anti-messiah of the middle way.
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there is a myth of equality by terminology.

Pardon? These words individually make sense but put together in a sentence I have no idea how one would achieve equality by terminology.
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There is no such thing as the equality of the races.

Again, this sentence is somewhat ambiguous. What do you mean here? There is currently no perception of the actual fact of equality of the races... or the races are not equal in current standing... or the races are not equal in intrinsic worth?

I have no idea whatsoever what you're attempting to say here and I haven't been able to infer it from context.
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the disparity between the ratio of Blacks to Caucasian in post of authority is approximately 1 to 4 respectively.

What is the ratio of dark-skinned people to the melanin-challenged within the general population? (I don't live in america and have no idea what the proportions are there... here the ratio is approximately 1 to 10,000 respectively)

And with those questions addressed back to the topic at hand.

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Let us reopen this discourse, "is racism dead" and "are peoples of all races treated justly?"

Consider the discourse reopened.

Racism can be deceptive in that it may be hidden when it actually exists, and seen when it does not exist.

For example, insults are often based on a particular trait that a person has. Someone may call a disliked black person a n****r, when in fact the reason behind making the insult is not actually racist. Yet since it is identified as something likely to offend, it may be used even if the insulter has no racist notions at all if they have sufficient desire to insult the black person.

On the other hand a person may be completely racist and never admit it, then never vote for a black candidate or hire a black applicant. The entire time however they don't make any public comment out of fear of being labelled a racist. As such their attitudes may never be noticed.

So thus it can be hard to determine the exact degree to which racism continues to exist. Particularly seeing as modern disparities in salary and workforce placement can be the legacy of racism up to a generation ago and possibly even further back in history.

It's hard to judge, but in my opinion racism is gradually decreasing. (with the exception of the spiked racism towards arabs, yet "wartime" racism is a different matter I think).
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