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Do you believe in an afterlife?

 
 
Reply Fri 21 Jan, 2005 01:29 am
Religious or secular I am interested to hear thoughts on the matter. Specifically, what you believe and what evidence or reasoning do you base your belief?

Briefly, some of my own thoughts:
The common conceptions seem to base their appeal hedonistically (i.e., rivers of wine) and are wrought with the prevailing misogyny of their respective period of development. More broadly speaking, conceptions of the afterlife seem to have such a basis in an environment all too earthly to be of any sort of divine inspiration. Now I realize of course that this does not preclude the existence of a next life as I hope it should not, but a description possessing divine attributes (timelessness perhaps?) seems difficult to locate.

I hope the goal of this forum topic is not to obliterate uncertainty, but rather to reap what we can of varying conceptions of an afterlife whether they are rooted in an organized religion or are unique formulations unto themselves.

Happy posting. Smile
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WhoodaThunk
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jan, 2005 04:33 am
I've heard Hell described not as a fiery pit, but a state of separation from our Creator. Likewise, Heaven has been described not as streets of gold, etc., but a state of peace with the One who set it all in motion.

Those surviving near-death experiences describe friends and loved ones meeting them, escorting and guiding them, if you will. That's my mental image of the crossing point, but I also envision all my departed four-footed friends there to greet me as well.
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Max209
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jan, 2005 05:48 am
i do believe in an afterlife (but i do not believe in religion)

i dont know what i think of as afterlife
and in fact i think the only reason i do think there is one is purely because i cant actually percieve nothing i dont know if it humanley possible to know
or to percieve the non existence of ones self
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BlissfulIgnorance
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jan, 2005 10:43 am
i believe in the afterlife that has been occurring since time began, namely that past living things died and decayed and became the building materials for us, and that we do the same for future life of all forms (if we choose not to lock away our remains in a steel box).
like the world throws up life out of the ground, that has it's moment in the sun then falls back to saturate and seed the ground for the next arising.
i am on the fence as far as the spirit of life, whether it flows with the material, or disembodies and reclaims a new body forming (human, animal, and plant mixed).
for example, i am made of trees, rocks, grass, wolves, deer, dog, roaches, and maybe even some human from long ago; and i'll eventually be ingested and become part of same years from now.
for as long as any life remains on this planet.
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Sign Related 2
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jan, 2005 11:12 am
Life changes and goes on for better or for worse.
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Crazielady420
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jan, 2005 11:28 am
When I pass away I am going to be an angel... that is all I know.. even if there is nothing when we die.... I will still be an angel!!
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Max209
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jan, 2005 02:25 pm
Crazielady420 wrote:
When I pass away I am going to be an angel... that is all I know.. even if there is nothing when we die.... I will still be an angel!!


hense your name being crazielady420 Wink Laughing
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Sanctuary
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jan, 2005 02:31 pm
No afterlife for me =)

My organs will promptly be sent to someone who can put some use to them, and what's left of me is meant to burn to ashes. It'll be fun.
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dauer
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2005 06:57 am
I'll know when I get there. Really no reason to worry about it. I might change my mind when I turn 50... or 60... or some other absurdly old age that nobody lives far past. Wink


Dauer
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WhoodaThunk
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2005 07:29 am
dauer wrote:
I might change my mind when I turn 50... or 60... or some other absurdly old age that nobody lives far past.


Uhh ... Boston ... ocean ... tsunami ... ???
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dauer
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2005 08:01 am
WhoodaThunk wrote:
dauer wrote:
I might change my mind when I turn 50... or 60... or some other absurdly old age that nobody lives far past.


Uhh ... Boston ... ocean ... tsunami ... ???


Boston got hit? I didn't even know there was a tsunami until a few days later. I haven't been watching the news much. It's all so negative. Or are you implying there could potentially be a tsunami that strikes Boston? While the chances of death increase especially in the later years(40, 50, 60), the chances of a tsunami remain very small. I mean...

Aah! Tsunami! I have to start believing in an afterlife to make myself feel secure!
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Greyfan
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jan, 2005 05:04 pm
I had a dream last night in which my own death was imminent. It was very disturbing because I don't think there is an afterlife and my dream-self didn't either; death would be the end of all the things I like: feeling, hearing, seeing, tasting, touching....remembering, experiencing, speculating, sharing....all gone.

When I woke up I took some comfort in reminding myself that when I really die there won't be any "me" to lament the loss. I'll just be gone, as unaware of the world that comes after as I was of the world that preceeded me. I won't be happy, I won't be sad, I just...won't be.
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raheel
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jan, 2005 08:31 am
muslims believe in an afterlife-

heaven and hell

when you die you are judged by God but you are not told if you are going to heaven or hell.

hell is a ditch which is almost endless.

you have to cross this along a thread as sharp as a hair.

if you are meant to go to heaven you will be able to pass it- if you are not you will fall down to hell.

some will pass it like a wind, others will stride some will stagger and some will fall.


heaven and hell both have seven stages.

people in the highest heaven will be in the presence of God.
indeed the biggest reward for the believers is to see God.

hell has seven stages from the least deep to the deepest.

1- for muslims who have done some bad- to cleanse them of their sins they are punished for them

2- for jew, who also believe in one God

3- for chrisitians who called Jesus the son of God

4- for those who have no God- athiests.

5- for those who worship the sun/moo/stars

i cannot remember the last two but they include those who work in showbiz and hypocrites
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theantibuddha
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jan, 2005 06:53 pm
Why should there be an afterlife?

I certainly don't remember any occurance before my birth and thus don't find the concept of non-existance strange at all. Also since my brain will cease functioning upon death I will not be able to experience anything.

So, no. No afterlife.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jan, 2005 06:58 pm
I have no belief in an afterlife. As a lifelong atheist, I state with finality that I expect nothing at all.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jan, 2005 06:42 am
BlissfulIgnorance- I didn't want to quote your entire post, but what you wrote could have been written by me.

What I believe can be summed up in the physical law of the Conservation of Energy:


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Conservation of energy (the first law of thermodynamics) is one of several conservation laws. It states that the total inflow of energy into a system must equal the total outflow of energy from the system, plus the change in the energy contained within the system. In other words, energy can be converted from one form to another, but it cannot be created or destroyed.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy

Therefore, to me, there IS an afterlife, if one wants to stretch a point a bit, and wax poetic. But in that "afterlife" the components that have been "you" are converted and parts of you become simply a portion of the entire universe.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jan, 2005 07:02 am
When the machine (your body) breaks, they just put you in the dirt and that's it.
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theantibuddha
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jan, 2005 07:37 am
Brandon9000 wrote:
When the machine (your body) breaks, they just put you in the dirt and that's it.


That's not true....

I'm going to be cremated Very Happy
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jan, 2005 07:41 am
One way or the other, we then become again part of the entire universe.
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dauer
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jan, 2005 11:34 am
Phoe,

Don't you mean the parts of you continue to be a part of the entire universe?
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