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Cyracuz
 
Reply Tue 11 Jan, 2005 02:38 pm
A drop of water...

I am wondering, is "drop" referring to the size of the body of water, or the fact that it is dropping?
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Etruscia
 
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Reply Tue 11 Jan, 2005 03:50 pm
Both i believe.
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val
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jan, 2005 06:36 am
Re: Drop of water
Cyracuz

The problem is in the use of the word. Like "sein" as substantive or verb - Das Sein, Zu sein.
As Wittgenstein pointed, the meaning of a word or a proposition depends of the use you give them.
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jan, 2005 09:37 am
I don't know quite what you mean val. Zu sein means to be. I am not familiar with the word as a substantive. I believe "das" is the same as "the".

Etruscia, both you say? How much water is one drop then?
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Etruscia
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jan, 2005 02:28 pm
The size of a drop is subjective and relative. Actually on thinking about it, its 3 things. It would be that its dropping, the size and . . .

(if im wrong tell me) its the shape of the drop of water. Its shaped in what we would call a tear drop shape.

http://www.shaders.org/graphics_factory/tutor4/tear.jpg
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jan, 2005 05:31 pm
Re: Drop of water
Cyracuz wrote:
A drop of water...

I am wondering, is "drop" referring to the size of the body of water, or the fact that it is dropping?


In typical usage, it refers to size most frequently. I've never heard the phrase "a drop of water" used to denote "dropping" or "falling". (my experience is with standard English usage).
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smog
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jan, 2005 12:04 am
Interestingly, "drop" is derived, through a long chain, from a Greek word meaning "to crumble." This doesn't really answer your question, and I could try to answer it with other definitions, but I think this one is nifty enough to stand alone.
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jan, 2005 08:27 am
The curious thing about water is that it gathers together. In preserving energy the watermolecules group together to form the smallest possible surface. That is what determines the shape water takes when falling.

It is my belief that the original meaning of "drop of water" was "water dropping". The other meanings have less logic to it. It is easy to assume that "drop" has anything to do with size, because the laws of physics has a way of limiting how much water can be in one grouping of molecules beforegravity pulls it apart. But this is relative. In a different environment the whole mass of water that exists on the earth could be assembled into one body. That would then, if it was hanging in the air, be a drop of water.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jan, 2005 10:34 am
Cyracuz wrote:
It is my belief that the original meaning of "drop of water" was "water dropping". The other meanings have less logic to it. It is easy to assume that "drop" has anything to do with size


Water drops are fairly consistent in size because surface tension and gravity in combination allow a limited range of size for drops (which are forming on a surface and then falling off when their mass exceeds the surface tension).

Rain drops (which are spherical, not "drop" shaped) are limited in size mainly by air turbulence which exceeds surface tension at some point. Drops which formed in a vacuum and were allowed to accumulate would be virtually limitless in size.

But in the "real" world, a "drop" of water is a relatively common and consistant reference to size.
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Fri 14 Jan, 2005 04:12 am
Right rosborne. I think that pretty much says it all Smile
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Fri 14 Jan, 2005 10:30 am
Cyracuz wrote:
Right rosborne. I think that pretty much says it all Smile


Glad I could help Smile

Never thought I would be answering a question like this. It's amazing the stuff which comes up on A2K which you would never think about otherwise Smile

Best regards,
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Twincams
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jan, 2005 07:43 pm
How big is a drop of water?

http://www.acclaimimages.com/_gallery/_SM/0019-0406-2120-4301_SM.jpg
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jan, 2005 08:24 pm
Twincams wrote:
How big is a drop of water?


Obviously, Blotches of water are more variable in size than Drops of water Wink Cool Pic though.
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Twincams
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jan, 2005 08:40 pm
They're not blotches, they're drops Wink
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jan, 2005 08:50 pm
Twincams wrote:
They're not blotches, they're drops Wink


Oh great, now when I make a Martini and it calls for two drops of Vermouth, I won't know how much to put in.

And what do I do for a Gin and Tonic when it calls for a "splash" of tonic? I'll have to give up "drinking" Sad
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Adrian
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jan, 2005 08:51 pm
In cooking there are 24 drops in a teaspoon.

That would make it approx 0.2 of a mililitre or 0.007 of an ounce.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jan, 2005 08:53 pm
Adrian wrote:
In cooking there are 24 drops in a teaspoon.

That would make it approx 0.2 of a mililitre or 0.007 of an ounce.


Too complicated to think about, especially after a few Martini's Smile As long as my eyes can still focus, I know how big a "drop" is.
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jan, 2005 09:54 am
One answer is to stop drinking rosborne, but that's the boring way out. Another solution is to drink more. So much that measurements in anything below gallons becomes irellevant.. Although, it is a temporary solution... Smile
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