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NeoPets Riddles (Lenny Conundrums) and Answers Here

 
 
seanman1224
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 04:08 pm
@rowanmikaio,
yeah i know. i didn't use all the numbers. xD
rowanmikaio
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 04:11 pm
@seanman1224,
Are you trying to give a hint or did you make a mistake? I can't tell with that xD face.
seanman1224
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 04:11 pm
@rowanmikaio,
mistake.
ankze
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 04:19 pm
@seanman1224,
" A couple of them were repeated numbers, but most of them were unique. "

that's what really confuses me... the numbers can't continue up to higher everytime if we can trust this hint TNT gave us...
seanman1224
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 04:20 pm
@ankze,
That's whats ruining my theories.
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raghav123123
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 04:21 pm
@ankze,
Wow, i totally skipped over that part! Nice. Thanks, this makes it harder though...
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lennyfan
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 04:30 pm
Well, 400 numbers and this is the 400th LC makes me think we are talking about Lenny history. My first thought was that it had to do with the number of people that got it correct or the amount of NP given out.

Two issues with that:
1. For the first few LC's, there was either no NP or a standard amount of NP. They introduced the 2 million NP prize pool a few months later.
2. The early LC's don't have a record in the news of how many people solved it, from what I can see. (The first LC was 3/23/2001 for those that are interested.) So we wouldn't be able to verify the numbers, although it does make some sense that it would be increasing for the first several LC's.

Other than that, I'm not sure where we go with the LC history idea.
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lennyfan
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 04:31 pm
Tried looking for the numbers as making up a substring of PI. Didn't have much luck there. The LC loves PI, though, so still could be related.
vvktv
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 04:36 pm
@lennyfan,
Same. I'm back to thinking its purely a number sequence, so that its "easy" to derive the 400th term. Possibly still with some sort of pi or square or prime stuck in there somehow?
rowanmikaio
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 04:43 pm
@vvktv,
Not seeing any patterns on prime factorization
lennyfan
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 04:51 pm
@rowanmikaio,
Agreed, didn't see anything with the prime factorization of either the sequence or the differences.

Also, I tried assuming these were solutions to a polynomial based on the index in the sequence. Created six linear equations for an up to fifth order polynomial and plugged them into a linear equation solver, which told me there was no solution.

My equations were:
a+b+c+d+e+f=84
32*a+16*b+8*c+4*d+2*e+f=134
243*a+81*b+27*c+9*d+3*e+f=219
1024*a+256*b+64*c+16*d+4*e+f=296
3125*a+625*b+125*c+25*d+5*e+f=380
7776*a+1296*b+216*c+36*d+6*e+f=429

And the solver was at http://wims.unice.fr/wims/en_tool~linear~linsolver.en.html if anyone wants to double check my work.
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raghav123123
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 04:53 pm
@rowanmikaio,
Maybe this question is not just about a pattern of numbers, could it also be relaating to the sentence itself? i mean ive seen a couple like that in the past. Meri Acres Farm. Theres something weird about the place idk what.
lennyfan
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 04:55 pm
@raghav123123,
Nice idea, but 400 numbers out of that? Seems unlikely.
lennyfan
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 04:58 pm
Tried reversing the digits of each number and looking for a pattern. Nothing jumped out at me.
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raghav123123
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 04:59 pm
@lennyfan,
I cant disagree. Well ill try and see, math is not my strong subject, haha.
lennyfan
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 05:09 pm
Regarding my earlier polynomial idea, I had the third equation equaling 219 instead of 218, but upon repeating the test with the correct value, it still found no answer.
rowanmikaio
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 05:11 pm
@raghav123123,
Tried modding it 26 to see if it spelled anything that way and got 4 6 10 10 16 13 26 which comes out to FDJJPMZ. Probably not.
rowanmikaio
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 05:12 pm
@lennyfan,
I also tried this starting from 296 (in case the first few were just arbitrarily starting the sequence) and also found no answer
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blacksuzaku
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 05:17 pm
@rowanmikaio,
It can't be a number-to-letter sequence, because we don't know a majority of the numbers. There needs to be a discernible pattern that will allow us to get an equation for finding the nth term. We need to work under the assumption that we WON'T know the other 300-something numbers in the sequence, and that we don't NEED to know them.

I tried subtracting the second number from the first, then the third from the second, and so on so forth. Through that, I got the following sequence:

50, 84, 78, 84, 49, 39, 83, 84, 49, 50, 54, 80, 116

Thought I had something when 84 kept appearing (which coincidentally is the first number in the sequence), but then the pattern devolved into gibberish.
vvktv
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 05:36 pm
This post supplies no help whatsoever, but I am just saying that I am still here and thinking!
 

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