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NeoPets Riddles (Lenny Conundrums) and Answers Here

 
 
krazykatana
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2009 05:06 pm
I think we are all wrong by a few grams, need to verify something.

yeah to find radius thats how I did it.
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jcrboy
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2009 05:06 pm
@yellowpiggy,
Now did your work differ from mine? Because you can see that all of mine is hard derived from the data provided Razz
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Fluffykins
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2009 05:07 pm
@yellowpiggy,
I didnt do it as a cylinder but I do have to admit it has been many years since i did this kinda maths at school


well i have to rush off to work or ill be late goodluck all guess we will know in a week who gets the maths gold star lolol
jcrboy
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2009 05:08 pm
@Fluffykins,
*crosses fingers and hopes*
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yellowpiggy
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2009 05:09 pm
Hmm, well I've actually never seen that method (x^2+y^2=r^2) before, most probably because I had a bizarre English/Russian styled education and we use something else.
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yellowpiggy
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2009 05:12 pm
Oh no nevermind I have seen this method, just written differently XDD

Katana it is a loop but it just has two different cross sections. If you cut it with the circle facing us you see, obviously, the circle shape, but it you turn it around so that the curved side faces us the cross section is a rectangle or square (in this case).
krazykatana
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2009 05:15 pm
@yellowpiggy,
I don't get what you say, I said the hoop is made of a rectagular shaped tube, isn't that what it means ?
jcrboy
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2009 05:16 pm
@yellowpiggy,
I knew you'd recognize it... as it's standard format
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yellowpiggy
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2009 05:21 pm
@krazykatana,
I dunno if pictures work on here but look at this

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/687/len.th.png
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/687/len.png

Basically a cylinder can be cut as follows, lengths ways (the longer side and letter A) or width ways(letter B). I thin in the question it means that the letter A version cross section of the cyclinder forms a square, i.e the length of the cylinder/hoop is 2.5. (unless of course it means that the CS is a square of 2.5 area).
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krazykatana
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2009 05:21 pm
well after a few verifications I now have a totally different answer 29808

btw jcrboy what you call inner circle isn't the inner circle, 32 is not center to hoop it's center to shelve, you need to use 29.5 instead of 32

very likely to be that it is square-shaped btw, having the A cross-section being a square of 2.5 cm would make no sense, shelves mesure up to 138 cm
yellowpiggy
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2009 05:25 pm
@krazykatana,
But the 138cm is just a cord for the 2D circle; it doesn't go through the circle it goes across it.
krazykatana
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2009 05:27 pm
@yellowpiggy,
for the A section to have a square form of 2.5 cm, it would be extremelly small and thick

how can something 138 cm wide fit into a circle of only 2.5 cm in lenght.
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jjbuttcrack
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2009 05:30 pm
wow -- i have a totally different answer than anything that's been posted, but i'm pretty sure my logic and math check out. pretty good at these sorts of things.
there are NO squares involved in the cross sectional area.
perhaps this site you help people out: http://whistleralley.com/torus/torus.htm
the cross section of a hoop is a circle. you need to use that, and the length of the shelves (as a chord) to calculate the R and r for the final equation.

i got a 5 digit number, with the sum of the digits being 23.
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krazykatana
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2009 05:34 pm
Well 29808 seems like my final answer( unfortunatly not what I entered)

used full pi as it was used in #298 which was the last time pi was used in any LC

Basically what differs form the first few answers posted by me and will is the idea of inner and outer circles, introduced by jcr.
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yellowpiggy
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2009 05:40 pm
Eh, I think my answer's wrong too but I'm not all too bothered anymore. The last time I did a maths question I spent ages checking my answer using different methods and although I got it right I didn't do it fast enough to get a trophy >.>
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krazykatana
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2009 05:43 pm
just came back after like 5 years not playing but I was good enough to get trophies at that time (lol man I must have been fairly good when I was a teenager), math questions are the only ones I have any chance to answer honestly.

pretty sure with the 29808 tho, we'll see next week I guess.

The main problem with this question doesn't seem to be so much that it's hard but that the question is way too vague about the cross-section part.
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yellowpiggy
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2009 05:49 pm
Yes indeed, and I hope it will be another one of those easy questions so I can get another trophy XD
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jcrboy
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2009 06:38 pm
Ouch... I had to rework my problem, even though I had submitted...

I needed to edit the fact that r-y=32... it's actually r-y=29.5

With that edit, it changes my answer to 27509

I feel like a dummy for such an elementary mistake... I got excited and sloppy when I thought I was on the right track
krazykatana
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2009 07:18 pm
@jcrboy,
you sure about that ? just made it with your method but the new numbers and I come up with 29808 which is exactly the answer I got following my method.
jcrboy
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2009 07:19 pm
@krazykatana,
I'll double check my math 1 more time

-_-'

I love math some times... other times I hate it
 

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