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NeoPets Riddles (Lenny Conundrums) and Answers Here

 
 
ladybug001
 
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Reply Wed 6 Feb, 2008 09:34 pm
Just something I noticed when putting the numbers in chronological order: each column of 10 (ie. 10s, 20s, 30s, etc.) have at least three numbers except for to 10s, 60s and the 70s. The numbers are as follows:

Under 10s: 2, 5, 9
10s: 16, 16
20s: 23, 26, 27
30s: 30, 33, 37
40s: 40, 41, 41, 45
50s: 51, 53, 58
60s: 62, 64
70s: 74, 78
80s: 82, 83, 84, 88
90s: 92, 93, 93, 94, 95, 97, 97, 99

I'm just firing blanks here, but could that mean that the two numbers we have to find are in the 10s, 60s or 70s?
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bielski66
 
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Reply Thu 7 Feb, 2008 09:49 am
Been reading the boards for a while and the best tip I have read there:

Theres 16 even numbers adding up to 906, and there are 18 odd numbers adding up to 1062

This leaves a gap of 156 (and 2 missing numbers).

I figure that might be the answer as there is absolutely no other logic to be found in this weeks LC
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lem
 
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Reply Thu 7 Feb, 2008 10:11 am
But we need a product of those numbers... There are 78 pairs of numbers that add to 156, and all of them have different products. So even if that assumption is correct, we still need something else to go by...


EDIT: Ok, only half of those pairs are all even numbers - but even then it's 39 pairs to choose from, and 39 different products.
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bielski66
 
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Reply Thu 7 Feb, 2008 10:19 am
The Product IS 156.
The answer you need to submit are NOT the two missing numbers, so strickly speaking you don't need to know these numbers to submit an answer.
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lem
 
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Reply Thu 7 Feb, 2008 10:35 am
bielski66 wrote:
The Product IS 156.
The answer you need to submit are NOT the two missing numbers, so strickly speaking you don't need to know these numbers to submit an answer.


156 is the SUM.
We are asked for their PRODUCT

Now there are 39 different pairs of even numbers that will give a sum of 156, all of their products are different. We can even narrow it a step further - there are only 11 pairs of even two digit numbers and respectively 11 products. But that's still to many choices. There must either be something else to go by, or this is a completely wrong approach....

The qualifying pairs are:
Code:
58 x 98 = 5684
60 x 96 = 5760
62 x 94 = 5828
64 x 92 = 5888
66 x 90 = 5940
68 x 88 = 5984
70 x 86 = 6020
72 x 84 = 6048
74 x 82 = 6068
76 x 80 = 6080
78 x 78 = 6084

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Jen Aside
 
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Reply Thu 7 Feb, 2008 02:47 pm
owlette wrote:
Not in this case. The LC is definately as I stated, as I have been in top 250, too many times to count, however I have only got top ten TWICE and have 2x against my gold LC trophy.


Really? That must be because there's a LC high score table, then.


MariaWB wrote:
How on EARTH did ANY of you make sence out of that so fast???


Look at frequency of letters eg: The letter that appears most frequently probably represents an E
Then from there I solved the three letter words and filled in other words as I went. (putting it on a spreadsheet helps)[/quote]

I'm really late, but just wanted to put this out as FYI: They're called "cryptograms." If you don't have spreadsheet stuff, you can solve them by going into a word-editing program like Notepad and using the Find/Replace option with "Match case" turned on.

For instance:

GJX BNOM ESIIYVYOP FDJPF NVY JO PGY XGYYD JI YTCSPYBYOP?

Replace "G" with "h" for

hJX BNOM ESIIYVYOP FDJPF NVY JO PhY XhYYD JI YTCSPYBYOP?

then Replace "J" with "o" for

hoX BNOM ESIIYVYOP FDoPF NVY oO PhY XhYYD oI YTCSPYBYOP?

then Replace "X" with "w" for

how BNOM ESIIYVYOP FDoPF NVY oO PhY whYYD oI YTCSPYBYOP?

and so forth. It takes some practice to get good at it, but using trial and error, you can whittle down what the letters probably are.
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lem
 
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Reply Thu 7 Feb, 2008 03:15 pm
Somebody on neoboards suggested "pie" in the riddle wording may suggest it has something to do with Pi....

Sifted through 100,000 digits of Pi... no pattern that I can see so far....

But then it said "punch and pie".... punch... could that also mean something?...

Maybe some other relation?
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ladybug001
 
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Reply Thu 7 Feb, 2008 09:16 pm
The answer is in pi.

3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097494

If you notice on the large square the 4th line down begins with 94. If we move up diagonally from there it's 74, then 9, then 82 at the top of the square. Then the sequence begins again under 94 with 5 and it continues like that; see the pattern- from the end of pi onwards? That gets us the two corner numbers of 59 and 31, which we then multiply to get 1829.

By the way, my mum figured it out, amazing huh?
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lem
 
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Reply Thu 7 Feb, 2008 09:29 pm
ladybug001 wrote:
The answer is in pi.

3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097494

If you notice on the large square the 4th line down begins with 94. If we move up diagonally from there it's 74, then 9, then 82 at the top of the square. Then the sequence begins again under 94 with 5 and it continues like that; see the pattern- from the end of pi onwards? That gets us the two corner numbers of 59 and 31, which we then multiply to get 1829.

By the way, my mum figured it out, amazing huh?


Duh!!!
I feel so stupid!!!
I was staring at PI for a good hour or two this morning! But I was looking for complicated patterns, like arranging it in rows to make it look like this matrix, or starting from 40 taking 40th digit, then going from there, or whatnot.... And I didn't even try to find each of the numbers within the PI itself, which would have obviously brought me to all of the first set of digits less two numbers which were the answer (could even do it without figuring the diagonals)...

Anyway, great job!
It seems so obvious now!
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ladybug001
 
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Reply Thu 7 Feb, 2008 09:31 pm
Lol, isn't that always the way? Right now, my mum is like, a savior for me Very Happy
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lem
 
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Reply Thu 7 Feb, 2008 09:40 pm
Yeah, great job, mum!

She can be proud of herself, because she solved a riddle that went unsolved for a good 24 hours, which is the first time I ever see this happen on this board. There's a bunch of bright and talented people who usually hang out here, and it normally takes a few hours at most for the riddles to get solved.

BTW, to make it easier, the counting starts from lower right corner with 31 and then goes down and to the left. This way you'd be traversing the Pi from the beginning and forward all the way to 40, not backwards Smile. But it doesn't really matter now Smile
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MariaWB
 
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Reply Thu 7 Feb, 2008 09:48 pm
ladybug001 wrote:
The answer is in pi.

3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097494

If you notice on the large square the 4th line down begins with 94. If we move up diagonally from there it's 74, then 9, then 82 at the top of the square. Then the sequence begins again under 94 with 5 and it continues like that; see the pattern- from the end of pi onwards? That gets us the two corner numbers of 59 and 31, which we then multiply to get 1829.

By the way, my mum figured it out, amazing huh?


I would NEVER EVER have figured that out! Not even after someone would have pointed out that pi could have something to do with it. Go, mom! *thumbs up* Very Happy

I can't wait to see if it's right!
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lem
 
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Reply Thu 7 Feb, 2008 09:59 pm
MariaWB wrote:


I would NEVER EVER have figured that out! Not even after someone would have pointed out that pi could have something to do with it. Go, mom! *thumbs up* Very Happy

I can't wait to see if it's right!


Gotta be right.
This is the most exhausting answer I've seen so far. Everything falls into place, no ifs and buts left.... Except... I hope TNT didn't mean the first number to be 3.1, as opposed to 31, in which case answer would have been 182.9... But that would be cruel!
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ladybug001
 
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Reply Thu 7 Feb, 2008 10:12 pm
That would be SO cruel. But I doubt it because there are no other decimal points on the table. If that's how it goes though... I might start a riot on the Neoboards Very Happy
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stormygoddess
 
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Reply Wed 13 Feb, 2008 10:10 am
Wow, I didn't think anyone was going to figure it out! Go ladybug's mum! *cheers*
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stormygoddess
 
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Reply Wed 13 Feb, 2008 12:46 pm
Dear Maya, Congratulations! You have guessed correctly in the Lenny Conundrum game (round 250). You have won 2289 NP!
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julieann314
 
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Reply Wed 13 Feb, 2008 01:15 pm
Congratulations! You have guessed correctly in the Lenny Conundrum game (round 250). You have won 2289 NP!

Because you were in the first 250 to guess correctly, you also have been awarded a Hot Dog on a Stick, and receive a trophy and the Lenny Conundrum avatar!

So, the correct answer was 1829, not 182.9.

Sure didn't expect to be in the top 250, though.
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lilkoko23
 
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Reply Wed 13 Feb, 2008 01:26 pm
but it said Congratulations! You have guessed correctly in the Lenny Conundrum game (round 250). You have won 2289 NP!

But it never said that i have won a Hot Dog on a Stick, and receive a trophy and the Lenny Conundrum avatar!
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Jen Aside
 
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Reply Wed 13 Feb, 2008 01:30 pm
I just noticed it says "First 250!" in the subject line if you got in the first 250 [naturally]. Now it just needs to be the first ten-or-whatever Confused

*waits patiently*
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lennyishard
 
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Reply Wed 13 Feb, 2008 04:02 pm
Your mom is agineous! Though for the second time, I didn't get in the top 250. It's so hard to get there.
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