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NeoPets Riddles (Lenny Conundrums) and Answers Here

 
 
evil
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 01:18 pm
lenny
The lenny conundrum that came out last night for this week. really late last night.
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stapel
 
  1  
Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 02:01 pm
Re: lenny
stapel wrote:
What round is this?
evil wrote:
The lenny conundrum that came out last night for this week.

Yes, I'm aware that this week's Lenny is the Lenny for this week. But what Round is this? (The answer would be a number.)

Thank you.

Eliz.
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owlette
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 02:27 pm
Re: lenny
stapel wrote:
stapel wrote:
What round is this?
evil wrote:
The lenny conundrum that came out last night for this week.

Yes, I'm aware that this week's Lenny is the Lenny for this week. But what Round is this? (The answer would be a number.)

Thank you.

Eliz.



This is Round #211
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Felijo
 
  1  
Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 02:28 pm
Re: lenny
stapel wrote:
stapel wrote:
What round is this?
evil wrote:
The lenny conundrum that came out last night for this week.

Yes, I'm aware that this week's Lenny is the Lenny for this week. But what Round is this? (The answer would be a number.)

Thank you.

Eliz.


211
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Felijo
 
  1  
Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 02:28 pm
Re: lenny
evil wrote:
Well here's you another answer:
The first column is the misprint = the second column is the real #'s
1=7
2=0
3=1
4=5
5=3
6=9
7=2
8=6
9=8
0=4
so ... 7221 x (3334+3666) = ?
is .... 2007 x (1115+1999) = 6249798
converted from column two back to column one the answer is: 8706169


I got the same thing you got.
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stapel
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 02:40 pm
stapel wrote:
What round is this?
owlette wrote:
This is Round #211
Felijo wrote:
211

Thank you! Very Happy

Eliz.
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midori
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 03:57 pm
Oh darn it, guess I'll have to wait for the next one. Thanks for the info.
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jonathanasdf
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 05:41 pm
You know? I was watching the Canucks game last night and was tired so I may have gotten it wrong. Always check it yourself before you submit >.<
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stapel
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 06:38 pm
In Round 211, the 'Lenny' authors wrote:
518 x 70 = 6270

6481 + 3294 = 32847

7221 x ( 3334 + 3666 ) = ?

Using letters to stand for the unknown (correct) values, and starting with the addition (which is way simpler), we have:

Code: A B C D
+ E F G B
---------
E F C G H

Clearly, since we are adding only two values in the thousands column, we can have a carry of only "1", so E = 1.

Code: A B C D
+ 1 F G B
---------
1 F C G H

Considering the thousands column, we have A + 1 = F + 10 or else 1 + A + 1 = F + 10, depending upon whether there was a carry from the hundreds column. If there was, then A - F = 8, so A = 8 and F = 0. If there wasn't, then A - F = 9. If A = 8 then F = 1, but E already equals 1. If A = 9, then F = 0. Either way, F = 0, so:

Code: A B C D
+ 1 0 G B
---------
1 0 C G H

Turning now to the hundreds column, if there is no carry from the tens column, then B + 0 = C, so B = C. So there has to be a carry from the tens, and the hundreds addition is actually 1 + B + 0 = C (or C + 10, if there's a carry to the thousands); that is, 1 + B = C (or C + 10).

Suppose there is a carry from this column into the thousands. Then 1 + B = C + 10, so C = B - 9. The only way for C to be non-negative is for B to equal 9, so C = 0. But F = 0. So there can't be a carry from this column; that is, it must be that 1 + B = C, not C + 10.

Including the carries we have determined, we now have:

Code: 0 1 ?
A B C D
+ 1 0 G B
---------
1 0 C G H

Since there is no carry to the thousands column, then A + 1 = 10, and A = 9:

Code: 0 1 ?
9 B C D
+ 1 0 G B
---------
1 0 C G H

Looking at the ones column, we have D + B = H or D + B = H + 10. If D + B = H, so there's no carry to the tens, then, because we know the tens column has a carry into the hundreds column, we have:

. . . . .C + G = B + 10

Since C = B + 1, we have:

. . . . .B + 1 + G = B + 10
. . . . .1 + G = 10
. . . . .G = 9

But A = 9, so this can't work. Then we must have D + B = H + 10, so, in the tens column, we have:

. . . . .1 + C + G = B + 10

. . . . .1 + B + 1 + G = B + 10
. . . . .2 + G = 10
. . . . .G = 8

So far, then, we have E = 1, F = 0, A = 9, G = 8, and the fact that there are carries from the ones to the tens and the tens to the hundreds:

Code: 0 1 1
9 B C D
+ 1 0 8 B
---------
1 0 C 8 H

Looking again at the ones column, we have D + B = H + 10, and the digits 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 are still available. If either of D and B is 2, then we cannot get a carry (H + 10) with the numbers we have left, since the biggest sum would be 2 + 7 = 9. Consider the other cases:

. . . . .D + B = 10 => H = 0 (No: F = 0)
. . . . .D + B = 11 => H = 1 (No: E = 1)
. . . . .D + B = 12 => H = 2, so D, B = 5, 7
. . . . .D + B = 13 => H = 3, so D, B = 6, 7
. . . . .D + B = 14 => H = 4, but D = B = 7 (So no.)

And D + B can't be any larger sum, because the larger summands are already spoken for. Our only two possibilities are D, B = 5, 7 and D, B = 6, 7. Then B equals 5, 6, or 7.

At this point, we need to turn to the multiplication. Using additional letters to stand for the new numbers, we have:

Code:

Since C = B + 1, the first multiplication (the only one we can really work with) is (B + 1)(M) = M (or M + 10). In other words, whatever the multiplication is, the ones digit is duplicated. We are limited on the values for B (and thus C), so let's work through the options:

. . . . .. . . . .. . . . .. . . . .. . . . .B = 7, so C = 8: But G = 8 (No.)

From the last bit we'd done with the addition, we know that, if B = 5, then D = 7 and H = 2. If B = 6, then D = 7 and H = 3. Either way, D = 7, so:

Code: 0 1 1
9 B C 7
+ 1 0 8 B
---------
1 0 C 8 H

Also, if B = 5 (so H = 2), then C = 6 and M = 4. If B = 6 (so H = 3), then C = 7 and M = 5. But we already determined that D = 7, so C cannot be 7 and B must be 5.

So far, we have E = 1, F = 0, A = 9, G = 8, D = 7, B = 5, H = 2, C = 6, and M = 4:

Code: 0 1 1
9 5 6 7
+ 1 0 8 5
---------
1 0 6 8 2

And this works out correctly. Checking with the multiplication, we have:

Code:

The multiplication, in the coded form, is A F H M, which translates as 9 0 2 4, so the translation "checks". The only digit (0-9) unaccounted for is 3, so L = 3. Our coding, from "wrong" to "code" to "right", is:

Code:0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 <== wrong
| | | | | | | | | |
M D F E B L A H C G <== code
| | | | | | | | | |
4 7 0 1 5 3 9 2 6 8 <== right



The final expression is:

. . . . .7221 x ( 3334 + 3666 )

Translating from "wrong" to "code" to "right", we get:

. . . . .2007 (1115 + 1999)

This equals 6,249,798 in "right" numbers. To put the numbers "wrong", we have to work backwords through the above coding process:

Code:0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 <== right
| | | | | | | | | |
F E H L M B C D G A <== code
| | | | | | | | | |
2 3 7 5 0 4 8 1 9 6 <== wrong

Working through the steps, we find that 6,249,798 would be printed as:

. . . . .8706169 <== ANSWER

As always, please check my work.

Eliz.
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jojoe46
 
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Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2007 06:08 am
????????
i sumewhat folled that so the answer is 8706169???????????????????????
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lisaclair
 
  1  
Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2007 10:45 am
Who can solve this one

I am alive but also dead very busy but still and the noisy streets silent all in my 4 walled frame.

What Am I ?
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jojoe46
 
  1  
Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2007 01:23 pm
street light??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ummm, me no know...
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evil
 
  1  
Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2007 08:39 pm
lenny
The current lenny conundrum has been solved several times on the last several pages.... and the answer is.... 8706169!
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Michelles
 
  1  
Reply Sun 15 Apr, 2007 11:14 am
the answer
i hope u guys no that posting the answers will result in less of a prize. The more people that know the answer, the lower the pay out. maybe instead of giving the answers, give hints Wink make people work for the NP
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Michelles
 
  1  
Reply Sun 15 Apr, 2007 11:15 am
lisaclair wrote:
Who can solve this one

I am alive but also dead very busy but still and the noisy streets silent all in my 4 walled frame.

What Am I ?


Is it a house?
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anneska
 
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Reply Tue 17 Apr, 2007 01:42 pm
I am alive but also dead very busy but still and the noisy streets silent all in my 4 walled frame.

Is a portrait of a busy street scene

Can anyone please spare me a vote before friday 20 April

Hissi vote: http://www.neopets.com/beauty/details.phtml?pet=Gzome

I think I'm not gone stay awake tonight I am so tired and if its like the last few times...
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stapel
 
  1  
Reply Wed 18 Apr, 2007 08:17 am
Michelles wrote:
posting the answers will result in less of a prize.

We keep having this conversation....

Yes, posting the answers means fewer points. But if people were interested in earning high point returns, they'd do the Lennies themselves. Instead, they don't even exert themselves enough to check whether the answer has already been posted.

It's better, in my opinion, that those sorts of folks can copy the answer from here. Otherwise, they'd just be pestering tutoring sites, claiming that this is a "make or break" take-home quiz or some such thing: "u have 2 du this ASAP NOW or il flunk my hole grade 4 all yr depend on dis its du 2morrow give me ans NOW! HELP HELP lol", etc, etc. (Many tutoring sites are now banning anybody who is found to be posting Lennies.)

Considering how many people don't even bother to notice that the answer has already been provided, you may not have that much to worry about.... Rolling Eyes

Just my opinion, of course; I could be wrong....

Eliz.
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anneska
 
  1  
Reply Wed 18 Apr, 2007 01:36 pm
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I am alive but also dead very busy but still and the noisy streets silent all in my 4 walled frame.
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Is a portrait of a busy street scene

Can anyone please spare me a vote before friday 20 April

Hissi vote: http://www.neopets.com/beauty/details.phtml?pet=Gzome

I think I'm not gone stay awake tonight I am so tired and if its like the last few times...
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evil
 
  1  
Reply Wed 18 Apr, 2007 03:20 pm
lenny
Congratulations! You have guessed correctly in the Lenny Conundrum game (round 211). You have won 1015 NP!

Yours Sincerely,
The Neopets Team!
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evil
 
  1  
Reply Wed 18 Apr, 2007 05:40 pm
lenny
When King Skarl speaks, his loyal subjects listen. In fact, one of the members of his court is always around to write down everything King Skarl says, to preserve for posterity.



One day the regular transcriber was away, so a slightly deaf substitute took his place. Unfortunately, he didn't do a very good job. In fact, he got almost every word wrong, instead replacing the words with other words that, more or less, rhymed with the actual words.

Anyway, King Skarl was reading aloud from the Neopedia, and the transcriber wrote it down as this:

"cry oppose fares bay curtain arm you berating snore gone pith homes bland elastic pennies..."
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