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@centrox - substituted

 
 
Reply Thu 28 Sep, 2017 10:44 pm
@centrox,

Do the following sentences mean the same thing?

1) The coach substituted Rooney for Bale.

2) Rooney was substituted with Bale.

Thank you.
 
centrox
 
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Reply Thu 28 Sep, 2017 10:52 pm
Please do not single me out in the title of a question. Anyone may answer, or not, as they please.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 29 Sep, 2017 12:46 am
@centrox,
I want to know what team has both Gareth Bale and Wayne Rooney.
paok1970
 
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Reply Fri 29 Sep, 2017 01:54 am
@izzythepush,
The British team
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 29 Sep, 2017 02:42 am
@paok1970,
There isn't one, unless you count the Olympics and even then Rooney wouldn't qualify because he's too old.

Gareth Bale plays for Wales.

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/480/cpsprodpb/948A/production/_89962083_rexfeatures_5725822be.jpg

Wayne Rooney played for England.

http://e2.365dm.com/16/08/16-9/20/wayne-rooney-england-international-captain-armband-euro-2016_3770231.jpg?20160830132354

Btw, in the UK for football we don't call the person deciding who plays and who should be substituted the coach, we call them the manager. Coaches are a bit further down the pecking order.


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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 29 Sep, 2017 02:58 am
@centrox,
This joker apparently doesn't trust anyone else around here. He recently started a topic in which he questioned two locutions that I had used, asking if they were acceptable English. I had used them in responses to him in EFL threads.

It'll be a cold day in Hell before I answer another of his topics.
PUNKEY
 
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Reply Fri 29 Sep, 2017 05:56 am
Paok has been singularly responsible for the downfall of A2K, IMHO.

He has flooded the site with these OCD questions to a point of saturation.
centrox
 
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Reply Fri 29 Sep, 2017 06:01 am
He or she sometimes asks the same question three or four times.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 29 Sep, 2017 06:07 am
@PUNKEY,
Yes, you go on new posts and that's all there bloody is, page after page of the sods.
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Fri 29 Sep, 2017 06:14 am
@paok1970,
paok1970 wrote:
The coach substituted Rooney for Bale.

izzythepush wrote:
I want to know what team has both Gareth Bale and Wayne Rooney.

i assumed he was referring to Christian Bale and Mickey Rooney...
paok1970
 
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Reply Fri 29 Sep, 2017 07:34 am
@PUNKEY,
Why don't you simply tell me to stop posting questions instead of joking on the fact that I have OCD? You have good manners, indeed!!!
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paok1970
 
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Reply Fri 29 Sep, 2017 07:35 am
@centrox,
Why don't you just ignore my questions?
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paok1970
 
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Reply Fri 29 Sep, 2017 08:23 am
@Setanta,
I'm no joker!
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 29 Sep, 2017 09:05 am
@Region Philbis,
Fair enough, I'd be hard pressed to name many American sports stars.

Gareth Bale used to play for Southampton, and people I know who've met him think he's a right tit.
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jespah
 
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Reply Fri 29 Sep, 2017 11:49 am
FYI folks, if you don't want to see someone's posts, you can always hit Ignore. If anyone doesn't know how to do that, I am more than happy to train you in the fine art of smacking the Ignore button. Smile
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 29 Sep, 2017 12:09 pm
@jespah,
That doesn't really address the issue in this case. Instead of page after page of titles, you just get page after page of "user ignored." It sort of compresses the problem.

Anyway I don't think anyone really dislikes Paok, nor do they want him to stop posting. If that was the case they wouldn't help him so much. I think what most people want is for him to change his behaviour, not go quite so crazy with the posts and to stop posting duplicate or near duplicate questions.

But what do I know what other people think? I'm just guessing, but that's what I'd like.
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Fri 29 Sep, 2017 01:00 pm
@jespah,
Well said.

It's similar to the dalehileman (and threads of a few other posters) threads where people just enter to criticize and and tell him he's wasting space here. Once I can tolerate, even twice. After that it becomes obnoxious and borders on trolling.
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centrox
 
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Reply Fri 29 Sep, 2017 01:02 pm
@paok1970,
paok1970 wrote:
@centrox,
Do the following sentences mean the same thing?
1) The coach substituted Rooney for Bale.
2) Rooney was substituted with Bale.

Following jespah's sensible remarks:

The sentences do not have the same meaning. They have opposite meanings.

SUBSTITUTE FOR
1) The coach substituted Rooney for Bale.
The coach took Bale out of the game and put Rooney in his place.
Using 'for', the structure is ‘substitute [new thing] for [original thing]’.

SUBSTITUTE WITH
2) Rooney was substituted with Bale.
Rooney was taken out of the game and Bale was put in his place.
Using 'with', the structure is ‘substitute [original thing] with [new thing]’.
NOTE: If you are using 'with', you can use 'replace' as the verb instead of 'substitute' with no change of meaning.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Fri 29 Sep, 2017 01:15 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

I want to know what team has both Gareth Bale and Wayne Rooney.

A fantasy football team?
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