is God free?

I think you have posted this notion twice!

Not only is he not free, he charges by the minute and rounds off the bill upwards.

it would be better if you comment regarding the issue.




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Re: is God free?
Neolouphis

And why is it good to create the universe?

Re: is God free?


well is it not good to live?

if the gods are like the god of plotinus, then he is not free, he must create inorder to see himself as a being.(pantheistic view) And if he is perfect(since he/she/it is a god) he must create something good, surely perfection entails goodness. thus God cannot be free because of his nature to be good.

Re: is God free?
Your statement leads to two different questions.
Plotinus, like Hegel, saw that God could only exist if in confront with what is not God. I mean, first "God is in himself". But, in order to "be to himself", in order to be able to think "I" he had to create something different from him. That is a good point, but I never understood why, in this case, would God need to be an "I", to be to himself. Hegel in his "Phenomenology of the Spirit" does not give an understandable answer.

About good. Yes, it is good to live. From my point of view, not Gods point of view. If we never had existed, it would be not bad or good. There would be no one to qualify the situation of non-being.

Another thing. You say God is good. Good is a moral concept. Do you mean that God is subjected to an external moral? Or did he create that moral? If there is a moral external to God, then there is something higher than God. If God created that moral, then, before he created it he had no moral, he was not good (or bad).

Neolouphis, I think you are giving god a lot of human characteristics. God is not free, nor is he bound. He is the ultimate goodness and the ultimate evil, but all these are just ways of understanding god, and you will understand him according to your own attributes. The universe unfolds according to the laws we know as physics and biology and so on, and there is no judgement as to right and wrong. God is the biggest samaritan, but he is also the biggest scoundrel. He contains all oposites within himself, and so he is not free or bound. He is freedom, and he is slavery. Duality exists everywhere except in god. God is absolute. Or more accurately: God is the only "entity" that contains its duality...

Jesus Christ...one person who is blindly guessing giving another person who is blindly guessing advice on how to blindly guess.

It don't get no better 'en this!

You've never seen Monty Python Frank.

spendius.

I love 'em, Spend!

That just goes to show Frank what a civilised and educated intellectual you are.
How about Bilko?

spendius.

I was not big on Bilko.

Wanna ask me about Val Parnell...or the Palladium Show?

Go on then Frank.I'll ask you.What about VP & the Palladium?

Ever see Max Wall when spliffy?

spendius.

God is not only not free, the knowledge of the old boy is rather an expensive affair over a lifetime. All preists, ministers, etc., should be honest, greeting you at the temple door with: "I welcome you with outstretched hand . . . "

This is a local shop, for local people....

The Palladium Show was great. Nobody on the base ever missed it...although I cannot bring to mind which night of the week it was on. (Was it Saturday or Sunday???)

Very, very entertaining show.

Of course, one of the reasons we all liked it was that the feature act often was an American singer...Guy Mitchell or such.

Go figure! We never even had a hint that within 10 years...you blokes (our word for Brits) would take over the music industry.







Something in the back of my mind brings back a professor type...but it really is much too fuzzy to call a memory.

You'd have to refresh my memory...which is no mean feat!

There is a difference between god and what man says about god. People who use god as justification for acts they know are evil are wrong about god. Or in other words, they do not refer to the supreme being when they use the term god, but to their egos and needs. That is why all men say their god is good.