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Zimbabwe curbs rights groups

 
 
Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2004 01:44 am
Zimbabwe's parliament has passed a controversial bill which bans international human rights groups from working in the country.

Foreign critics ranging from Western governments to African churches have said Zimbabwe's ruling party rigged the last parliamentary elections in 2000 and the 2002 presidential poll and accuse the government of widespread human rights abuses.

President Robert Mugabe denies the land seizures are responsible for food shortages which have plagued the country since 2001. He also denies that the world is round and 1 + 1 =2.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2004 03:57 am
" He also denies that the world is round and 1 + 1 =2" - no he doesn't.

Other than that, he is a very nasty piece of work indeed.
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australia
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2004 05:23 am
The world reaction to this is a form of reverse racism. If the situation in Zimbabwe was reversed, and it was the whites doing to the blacks what mugabe is doing to the white farmers, there would be absolute outrage. There would be world wide protests, marches, radio flooded with irate talkback callers, bono would organise a concert to raise funds and awareness, and this forum would be dominated with the subject. But because they are only white people, it is not very trendy in todays era to get excited about it, so lets worry about another country.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2004 05:37 am
Hmm - I doubt it - this is a very Amerocentric forum - and Zimbabwe seems of more interest to Commonwealth countries than to Americans.

Australia has, in fact, been quite active in attempting to curb Zimbabwe's leader's excesses - as have a number of Commonwealth countries.


While Zimabawe's treatment of whites - AND blacks - is appalling - one of the reasons there is not mass protest about it here - apart from sheer ignorance and chauvinism - is that Zimbabwe is not, generally, telling the rest of the world how to behave - and looking like invading them if they do not shape up.

Your analysis, while predictable, is, as ever, way too simplistic.
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australia
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2004 05:43 am
I guarantee that if the race situation was reversed in Zimbabwe, you would be 1000 times more forceful in your opinion.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2004 05:48 am
Lol!!!!!

Well, against irrational but passionate conviction, based on air - there is nothing rational to be said!!

This is especially amusing in the light of a rabid righty having accused me of racism against black folk only last week!

I guess I must be doing SOMETHING right!
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australia
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2004 06:24 am
You are not racist. But sometimes you lack consistency in your save the world views. It would be also be good if you could be a bit more tolerant of other peoples views that don't fit your own. I am flexible in opinions and have become more tolerant in certain areas from reading views expressed logically in this forum.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2004 06:27 am
Lol.
Nice to find somebody who knows everything about both me and the world - or thinks they do.
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australia
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2004 06:31 am
touche!!!!!
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2004 06:56 am
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2004 07:08 am
dlowan wrote:
Lol.
Nice to find somebody who knows everything about both me and the world - or thinks they do.


Oh we know all about you, wabbit! :wink:
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australia
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2004 08:01 am
A TYPICAL DAY IN ZIMBABWE

Well, I was there two years ago so it may have changed since then, but I doubt it.

It starts at 8.00am in the morning when the president of the returned war heroes(equivalent to our RSL) ges on the radio and pleads to all the old war heroes to go to the farms, kill the white farmers and claim their land.

So, they go to the farm, kill the white farmers and move in to the farm.

Then they ring the minister of planning and agriculture and say " okay we have killed the white farmers, now what do we do"

Planning and agriculture ministry " I don't know. Work it out for yourself "

Black " Yes but we don't know how to farm and there are machinery here we don't know how to operate"

Ministry " I don't know, isn't there a manual there somewhere"

Black " No. Can't you send someone here to get it to work"

Ministry " Sorry, all the experts in farm management and farm machinery expertise have either been killed or have emigrated to england. Just work it out yourself, bye"

And now today. Robert Mugabe wonders why there is a massive food shortage in Zimbabwe and the economy is close to collapsing.

Moral of the story: If you are going to embark on a murdering campaign to certain people in your country; if they vital skills, make sure you have educated people to replace them.
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walker84
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jan, 2006 12:07 pm
Zimbabwe
It's chilling to think that people I stayed with and studied with just a few years ago in Gweru, Zimbabwe are facing the problems that Mugabe's government is throwing their way. It's even more chilling to know that most likely some of those friends from Midlands Christian College have been killed in the violence. A family I stayed was facing difficulties even before the *real* violence started in Zimbabwe. The Mayor of Gweru came out to their house just so he could see if his furniture would fit. I have no doubt that the farm no longer is productive under that wonderful old couple's care, and instead of bringing in foreign exchange it is sitting dormant. It is stupidity like this that is transforming what should be the breadbasket of southern africa into another Somalia.
I shed tears for Zimbabwe. It's history has been marred with violence, racism, inequity and injustice. I fail to see how more violence, more racism, more inequity, and more injustice will make up for the wrongs of the past. Perhaps that's just my Judeo-Christian worldview speaking, but the whole "eye for an eye" thing doesn't work out to anybody's advantage in the long run.

Any thoughts?
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