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My Hedonistic Logical Argument

 
 
Reply Wed 26 Jul, 2017 11:45 am
1.) Perceiving something to be of good value, worth, joy, beauty, inspiration, love, and happiness to you can only be an experience for you that has a positive tone. In short, having good value and worth, along with joy, beauty, and happiness in your life is always a positive experience (state of mind) no matter how you look at it.

2.) Perceiving something to be of bad value, torment, suffering, and misery to you can only be an experience for you that has a negative tone. In short, having bad value, along with suffering, misery, and torment in your life is always a negative experience (state of mind) no matter how you look at it.

3.) Perceiving something to be of neither good value, worth, bad value, joy, beauty, happiness, suffering, torment, or misery to you can only be an experience for you that has a neutral (mechanistic) tone. In short, having neither good value, worth, nor bad value, along with having no suffering, misery, torment, happiness, or beauty in your life is always a neutral experience (state of mind) no matter how you look at it.

4.) Our good moods/feelings are the only experiences that possess the positive tone, our bad moods/feelings are the only experiences that possess the negative tone, and a non feeling experience can only possess a neutral (mechanistic) tone. A non feeling experience actually does possess a positive and negative tone. However, it would be a positive and negative tone that only meets a biological machine's standard. It would be nothing more than a mechanistic positive and negative tone that does not meet the human standard. It would be no different than having a positive and negative charge on a battery versus the positive and negative qualities of our human experience.

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Conclusion: Our good moods/feelings are the only things that can give our lives a humanistic quality of good value, worth, joy, beauty, and happiness, our bad moods/feelings are the only things that can give our lives bad value, suffering, misery, agony, and torment, while it is only experiencing neither our good or bad moods/feelings that can bring our lives no value, worth, joy, beauty, suffering, happiness, love, or misery.

People with a brain defect, brain damage, or low feel-good neurotransmitters due to either drug use, depression, and/or anhedonia are only having positive thoughts that their lives still have good value, worth, joy, beauty, and happiness to them without their good moods/feelings. But their quality of experience possesses no positive tone to give any real perception of good value, worth, joy, beauty, and happiness to their lives. In other words, they would not be able to actually see the good value, worth, joy, beauty, and happiness in themselves, others around them, and in their lives.

You might as well consider the value and joy to be nothing more than terms (words/phrases) in a depressed/anhedonic person's life. Depressed/anhedonic people are only fooling and deluding themselves through these positive terms as well as through positive gestures, acts, and tones of voice in thinking their lives have real good value and worth to them. But, again, their actual experience possesses no positive quality. They might have a little bit of good moods/feelings to some small degree, but that would only offer them a small quality of good value/worth perceived in their lives.

Additional delusional factors include conditioning, strength of character, and empathy towards other human beings which would certainly delude an individual into thinking that helping out others, making the best of life, etc. during miserable times would give real good value, worth, and joy to a person's life with no need for any good moods/feelings.
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Reply Wed 26 Jul, 2017 02:36 pm
@MozartLink,
Lastly, to summarize my logical argument, a perceptual experience of good value, worth, joy, beauty, bad value, suffering, torment, and misery without their respective moods/feelings possesses no quality of experience. It is only through feeling good and feeling bad that offers our lives a quality of perceptual experience.

Our good moods/feelings are the only experiences that possess a quality to them that give our lives a real perceived quality of good value/worth while our bad moods/feelings are the only experiences that possess a quality to them that give our lives a real perceived quality of bad value. Experiencing no good or bad moods/feelings gives our lives no perceived quality (experience) of good value, bad value, worth, joy, beauty, suffering, or misery.
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Reply Wed 26 Jul, 2017 03:13 pm
@MozartLink,
When I am traumatized due to some horrible traumatic event in my life, I lose all my good moods/feelings and I have none whatsoever. My life possesses no real perceived quality of good value/worth even despite getting help and wanting to feel better. So, even me getting help did not give my life any real perceived quality of good value/worth. That is why I conclude that it is only how we feel that gives our lives a real perceived quality of good and bad value. I just don't agree with this non feeling version of value that society, friends, and family advocate. There is just no way I could ever live the entirety of my life and see any good value/worth living like this without my good moods/feelings.
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Reply Wed 26 Jul, 2017 04:56 pm
@MozartLink,
There might be abstract values such as the idea that it is objectively wrong to harm an innocent person, but such values cannot actually be perceived without their respective moods/feelings. This means that a person who felt good in harming someone innocent cannot see that as a bad thing as long as he/she did not feel bad from that. Again, acknowledging such values is completely moot. It is only through our moods/feelings that we can have a real perceptual quality of these values.
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