and here we have a pic of the Zuni Pueblo which is in New Mexico just a few miles from the Arizona border, The town of Zuni is only a few hundred people, the Hopi (about 50 miles to the north-west and totally contained within the Navaho Reservation (my ex sister-in-law was a teacher on the Hopi Res (2nd mesa) Of interest to me is the crafts of these cultures. The Navaho prefer the large stone turquoise essentially in its raw state uncut but polished whereas the Zuni/Hopi and other Pueblo groups prefer the "needlepoint" or inlay work with finecut stones of turquoise/coral/agate inlayed in mosaic depictions of fetishes such as bears/eagles vs the "squash blossom" of the Navaho. (looking for a pic)
and here the more delicate silver/stone inlay work of the Zuni:
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BumbleBeeBoogie
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Thu 2 Jun, 2005 08:21 am
Dys
Dys, you and Diane have a good time. When will you return? Do you want me to water the back yard in your absence?
BBB
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Letty
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Thu 2 Jun, 2005 08:34 am
BBB, did you look that up? Well, regardless, you were absolutely correct.
dys, that turquoise jewelry is fantastic. I once had a lovely bracelet that a young man from Richmond gave me. It was, of course, lost. The difference between the needlepoint and the other agates is the symbols, I suppose. Ah, to be able to travel.
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bobsmythhawk
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Thu 2 Jun, 2005 08:38 am
I noticed that was Letty's 13,000th post.
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Letty
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Thu 2 Jun, 2005 09:13 am
and so it is, Bob. Frankly, I have never paid much attention to the numbers, but that's probably because I don't do math well. <smile>
For msolga. Hey, Australia, I saw, SAW, the movie. Had no idea that it was Australian born.
For Australia:
Can You Hear Australia's Heroes Marching? is a national war memorial
song and a tribute to the ANZAC spirit of mateship, courage, and sacrifice.
The song is timeless and honours the memory of those who have died in the
service and defence of Australia in war.
The marching theme of the song is especially powerful and supports the
spirit of ANZAC Day.
The song does not glorify war or endorse conflict of any kind. The song
simply highlights the sacrifice of many Australians who died in the service
and defence of our country in war.
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Letty
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Thu 2 Jun, 2005 09:42 am
and while we are waiting for down under to come up over, listeners. Here's a story about the legend of the lost, not to be confused with Roanoke, Virginia:
The Lost Colony
The image is one of the most haunting in American folklore: Eleanor Dare cradling her infant daughter as they struggle through a vast wilderness, seemingly forgotten by her father who brought them to an unfamiliar land, then left them to fend for themselves.
In the four centuries since their disappearance, Eleanor and Virginia Dare have become true American heroines, players in an epic unsolved mystery that still challenges historians and archaeologists as one of America's oldest. In 1587, over 100 men, women and children journeyed from Britain to Roanoke Island on North Carolina's coast and established the first English settlement in America. Within three years, they had vanished with scarcely a trace. England'sa initial attempt at colonization of the New World was a disaster, and one of America's most enduing legends was born.
The lie of the land of modern Roanoke Island appears much as it did at the time of the colonists' arrival. The low, narrow island lies between the treacherous Outer Banks and the mainland. Although it is influenced by the Atlantic Ocean, it is a verdant oasis compared to the harsh winds and pounding surf of the barrier islands. Instead, Roanoke is characterized by thick marshlands and stands of live oaks teeming with wildlife--a much more hospitable site for settlement.
In 1584, explorers Philip Amadas and Arthur Barlowe were the first to set eyes on the island. They had been sent to the area by Sir Walter Raleigh with the mission of scouting the broad sounds and estuaries in search of an ideal location for settlement. Amadas and Barlowe wrote glowing reports of Roanoke Island, and when they returned to England a year later with two Natives, Manteo and Wanchese, all of Britain was abuzz with talk of the New World's wonders.
Queen Elizabeth herself was impressed, and she granted Raleigh a patent to all the lands he could occupy. She named the new land "Virginia", in honor of the Virgin Queen, and the next year, Raleigh sent a party of 100 soldiers, craftsmen and scholars to Roanoke Island.
Under the direction of Ralph Lane, the garrison was doomed from the beginning. They arrived too late in the season for planting, and supplies were dwindling rapidly. To make matters worse, Lane, a military captain, alienated the neighboring Roanoke Indians, and ultimately sealed his own fate by murdering their chief, Wingina over a stolen cup.
By 1586, when Sir Francis Drake stopped at Roanoke after a plundering expedition, Lane and his men had had enough. They abandoned the settlement and left behind a fort, the remains of which can still be seen at Fort Raleigh National Historic Site today. Ironically, a supply ship from England arrived at Roanoke less than a week later . Finding the island deserted, the leader left behind 15 of his men to hold the fort and returned to England for reinforcements.
Raleigh was angry with Lane but not deterred from his mission. He recruited 117 men, women and children for a more permanent settlement, and appointed John White governor of the new "Cittie of Raleigh". Among the colonists were White's pregnant daughter, Eleanor Dare, his son-in-law Annanias Dare, and the Indian chief Manteo, who had become an ally during his stay in Britain.
Raleigh had since decided that the Chesapeake Bay area was a better site for settlement, and he hired Simon Fernandes, a Portuguese pilot familiar with the area, to transport the colonists there. Fernandes, however, was by trade a privateer in the escalating war between Spain and England. By the time the caravan arrived at Roanoke Island in July, 1587, to check on the 15 men left behind a year earlier, he had grown impatient with the White and anxious to resume the hunt for Spanish shipping. He ordered the colonists ashore on Roanoke Island.
The colonists soon learned that Indians had murdered the 15 men and were uneasy at the prospect of remaining on Roanoke Island. But Fernandes left them no choice. They unloaded their belonging and supplies and repaired Lane's fort. On August 18, 1587, Eleanor Dare gave birth to a daughter she named Virginia, thus earning the distinction of being the first English child born on American soil. Ten days later, Ferndades departed for England, taking along an anxious John White, who hesitantly decided to return to England for supplies. It was the last time he would never see his family.
Upon his arrival in Britain, White found himself trapped by the impending invasion of the Spanish Armada. Finally, two years after the stunning defeat of the Armada, he again departed for Roanoke Island. He arrived on August 18, 1590--his grand daughter's third birthday--and found the Cittie of Raleigh deserted, plundered, and surrounded "with a high pallisado of great trees, with cortynes and flankers, very fort-like". On one of the palisades, he found the single word "CROATOAN" carved into the surface, and the letters "CRO" carved into a nearby tree.
White knew the carvings were "to signifie the place, where I should find the planters seated, according to a secret token agreed upon betweene them and me at my last departure from them...for at my coming away, they were prepared to remove 50 miles into the maine". He had also instructed the colonists that, should they be forced to leave the island under duress, they should carve a Maltese cross above their destination. White found no such sign, and he had every hope that he would locate the colony and his family at Croatoan, the home of Chief Manteo's people south of Roanoke on present-day Hatteras Island.
Before he could make further exploration, however, a great hurricane arose, damaging his ships and forcing him back to England. Despite repeated attempts, he was never again able to raise the funding and resources to make the trip to America again. Raleigh had given up hope of settlement, and White died many years later on one of Raleigh's estates, ignorant to the fate of his family and the colony.
The 117 pioneers of Roanoke Island had vanished into the great wilderness.
In the following years, evidence as to their fate was slow to emerge, but some intriguing accounts exist. In 1709, English explorer John Lawson visited Roanoke Island and spent some time among the Hatteras Indians, descendants of the Croatoan tribe. In A New Voyage to Carolina, he wrote "that several of their ancestors were white people and could talk in a book as we do, the truth of which is confirmed by gray eyes being found infrequently among these Indians and no others."
In the 1880s, with the approach of the Roanoke Colony's 300th anniversary, a North Carolina man named Hamilton MacMillan proposed a theory that holds some credence today. MacMillan lived in Robeson County in southeastern North Carolina near a settlement of Pembroke Indians, many of whom claimed that their ancestors came from "Roanoke in Virginia".
According to MacMillan, the Pembrokes spoke pure Anglo-Saxon English and bore the last names of many of the lost colonists. Furthermore, "Roanoke in Virginia" was how Raleigh and his contemporaries referred to Roanoke Island. The Pembrokes also had European features: fair eyes, light hair, and an Anglo bone structure. MacMillan's findings, published in 1888 pamphlet, gained a great deal of attention from the academic community and renewed interest in the lost colony.
Other less plausible theories and some outright trickery surfaced in the mid-1900s. A series of mysterious rocks first uncovered in 1937 in eastern North Carolina seemed to solve the mystery. The original stone, dubbed the Eleanor Dare Stone, was found in a swamp 60 miles west of Roanoke Island by a traveler. It was covered with strange carvings, which, when deciphered, appeared to be a message from Eleanor Dare to her father, indicating that the colony had fled Roanoke Island after Indian attack.
Over the next three years, nearly 40 similar stones were unearthed from North Carolina to Georgia, and when pieced together, related a fantastic tale of the colonists' overland journey through the southeast, culminating in the death of Eleanor Dare in 1599. Although the academic world was skeptical, the media had a field day and were forced to eat their words in 1940 when an investigative reporter exposed the entire saga as an elaborate hoax.
In the past 40 years, scholars have discovered previously unknown records in the Spanish and British archives that may point the way toward a logical, if not provable, solution. Many historians now believe that after White's departure from Roanoke in 1587, the colony split into two factions, and the largest segment of the colony departed for the Chesapeake Bay, their original destination. Lane had explored the Bay area in 1585, and the colonists probably had maps made by White himself.
When John Smith and the Jamestown colonists arrived in 1607, Smith took up the search for the colonists and discovered that they probably had been in the area. In his dealings with the hostile Indian chief Powhatan, he learned that the colonists had lived among the friendly Chesapeake Indians on the south side of the Bay. Threatened by the intrusion of white men into the region, Powhatan claimed to have attacked the colonists and murdered most of them. As proof of his claim, he showed Smith "a musket barrell and a brass mortar, and certain pieces of iron that had been theirs."
By 1612, the Jamestown leaders had received numerous reports that at least some of the Roanoke colonists were living nearby. They sent out several search parties, but had no success, and soon gave up the search.
What became of the remainder of the colonists left on Roanoke Island? Scholars speculate that they were left behind to meet White upon his return from England, but soon fled to Croatoan, leaving the mysterious carvings behind as a signal to White. Spanish archives reveal that they were gone by June, 1588, when a raiding party put in at Roanoke Island only to find the settlement deserted. Scholars assume that they were then assimilated into the Croatoan tribe.
Today, the north end of Roanoke Island is regularly visited by historians and archaeologists hoping to uncover new evidence as to the fate of the colony. So far, none has been forthcoming. The post and the tree bearing the carvings have long since vanished, although many of the live oaks in the National Historic Site were seedlings during the colonists tenure. No archaeological clues as to the whereabouts of the Cittie of Raleigh have ever been uncovered, and the 500-acre park remains mostly an enigma, apropos to the events that unfolded here 400 years ago.
This legend came to me, listeners, because I watched Stephen King's THE STORM OF THE CENTURY last night, and knew, of course, that he added the supernatural touch to explain in a small island off Maine.
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Letty
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Thu 2 Jun, 2005 03:17 pm
and speaking of The Lost Colony. Hmmm. The studios are rather quiet.
Should I play a song or listen to the roar of the silence?
Hey, listeners. One of you out there request something.
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George
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Thu 2 Jun, 2005 03:24 pm
How about a rousing college cheer?
I'm a Beaver!
You're a Beaver!
We are Beavers all,
And when we get together, we do the beaver call!
e to the u, du dx, e to the x, dx;
cosine, secant, tangent, sine, 3.14159;
integral, radical, mu, dv;
slipstick, sliderule, MIT!
Goooooooooooooooooooooooo Tech!
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bobsmythhawk
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Thu 2 Jun, 2005 03:26 pm
CAN ANYBODY HEAR ME
Words and Music by Neil Diamond and Bill LaBounty
You got to take your time now,
If love is gonna take you by the hand.
You need to take your time, though,
'Cause love is not a thing you can command.
There's got to be a reason, got to be a closeness.
It's got to have a fellin' only you can know.
And when you find love, hold on tight.
Don't ever waste another night.
You're gonna make it through in spite of your fears.
Can anybody hear me?
Is anybody out there?
I listen to the river and hear the river callin' out her name.
I'm tryin' to forgive her, but nothin's ever gonna be the same.
There's got to be a reason, got to be a closeness.
It's got to have a fellin' only you can know.
And when you find love, hold on tight.
Don't ever waste another night.
You're gonna make it through in spite of your fears.
Can anybody hear me?
Is anybody out there?
There's got to be a reason, got to be a closeness.
It's got to have a fellin' only you can know.
And when you find love, hold on tight.
Don't ever waste another night.
You're gonna make it through in spite of your fears.
Can anybody hear me?
Is anybody out there?
Can anybody hear me?
Is anybody out there?
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Letty
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Thu 2 Jun, 2005 03:48 pm
My goodness, George. I'm certain that you're not talking about Virginia Tech, cause their mascot is a turkey. and I KNOW you're not a cheerleader, so somebody you know must be on the team. <smile>
Well, Bob, here's a river song, and it's rather sad, but true:
River of No Return
Marilyn Monroe - transpose to: D
If you (C)listen, you can hear it (Am)call
Wail-a-(Em)ree, wail-a-(G)ree
(C)There (Em)is a (C7)river
Called the (F)river of (Fm)no re(C)turn
Sometime it's (Em)peacefull
And (Am)sometimes wild and (G)free
(C)Love (Em)is (C7)trav'ler
On the (F)river of (Fm)no re(C)turn
(Am)Swept (C)on for (Em)ever (Am)
To be (F)lost in the (G)stormy (C)sea
Wail-a-ree
I can hear the river call
No return, no return
No return, no return, wail-a-ree
I can (Em)hear my lover (Am)call
Come to (Em)me, no return, no re(G7)turn
I lost my (C)love (Em)On the (C7)river
And for (F)ever my (Fm)heart will (C)yearn
Gone, (Am)gone for (Em)ever (Am)
Down the (F)river of (G)no re(C)turn
Wail-a-reee, wail-a-(Am)ree
You'll (F)never re(G)turn to (C)me
original key: A
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edgarblythe
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Thu 2 Jun, 2005 05:14 pm
Hello, Hello Baby
Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello baby
Thought I'd call you on the telephone
Oooooo, hello, hello, hello, hello baby
Thought I'd call you on the telephone
Everytime, everytime, everytime I try to call you, honey
Mmmm, you ain't got your big fat self at home
Well, one and one is two
Two and two is four
Look out baby, love me, love me, love me, more!
Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello baby
Thought I'd call you on the telephone
Everytime I call you
I never find your big fat self at home
Oh, look a here, now!
Look a here!
(piano solo)
Well, you sit there at that table
Quiet as a mouse
Let me tell you something, you gonna move this whole house
Look out honey!
Oooo, tell me more baby
Ha ha ha, I can't stand much of this, I go plumb crazy, man
Ooo, I gotta hear one on that guitar now!
(guitar solo)
Well, carry on now
I've been fighting like a lion, but it looks like I'm gonna lose
Oooooo, yes, I've been fighting like a lion
But it's looks like Jerry Lee's gonna lose
Whoa, cause there ain't nobody
Ever whipped these women blues!
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Letty
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Thu 2 Jun, 2005 05:24 pm
Hello, hello, edgar. Nice to hear your voice. You sound almost Texan, right listeners?
from the pen of e.e. cummings:
e.e. cummings - your little voice... (I)
your little voice
Over the wires came leaping
and i felt suddenly
dizzy
With the jostling and shouting of merry flowers
wee skipping high-heeled flames
courtesied before my eyes
or twinkling over to my side
Looked up
with impertinently exquisite faces
floating hands were laid upon me
I was whirled and tossed into delicious dancing
up
Up
with the pale important
stars and the Humorous
moon
dear girl
How i was crazy how i cried when i heard
over time
and tide and death
leaping
Sweetly
your voice
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Letty
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Thu 2 Jun, 2005 05:58 pm
And listeners, it's just as I predicted:
New 'Deep Throat' needed for Iraq, says Nixon rival 2 hours, 44 minutes ago
WASHINGTON (AFP) - The US media needs a modern-day "Deep Throat" within the administration of President George W. Bush to reveal how America was "misled" on Iraq, former presidential contender George McGovern said.
"We need someone like that who is highly placed to tell us what's really going on. We know that we were misled on Iraq," McGovern told Fox News Radio.
McGovern, a former senator, unsuccessfully ran against Richard Nixon for the White House in 1972.
Deep Throat, revealed this week as former FBI assistant director Mark Felt, acted as a source to The Washington Post newspaper, helping to bring down Nixon's presidency over the Watergate scandal in 1974.
"I wish there were somebody of the Deep Throat time in this administration who are aware of what's going on," McGovern told Fox News Radio.
"This war in Iraq, in my opinion is worse than anything Nixon did. I think Nixon deserved to be expelled from office in view of the cover-up that he carried on and the laws that he violated.
"But we have an administration in power now that led us to a war that is internationally illegal; it's a war that we are fighting with a country that has no threat to us that has nothing to do with the 9-11 attacks.
McGovern said Nixon was undoubtedly "tricky," but said of Bush: "This man claims to be Christian, following the will of God, and then he misleads the whole nation on a totally fraudulent enterprise in Iraq that we should have never been attached to."
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edgarblythe
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Thu 2 Jun, 2005 06:12 pm
I think everybody who really wants to know about Bush can figure it out. Trouble is, not enough strategically placed persons want to know.
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Letty
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Thu 2 Jun, 2005 06:26 pm
Indeed, edgar. Might as well dance and sing, right listeners?
Heaven, I'm in heaven
And my heart beats so that I can hardly speak
And I seem to find the happiness I seek
When we're out together dancing cheek to cheek
Heaven, I'm in heaven
And the cares that hung around me through the week
Seem to vanish like a gambler's lucky streak
When we're out together dancing (swinging) cheek to cheek
Oh I love to climb a mountain
And reach the highest peak
But it doesn't thrill (boot) me half as much
As dancing cheek to cheek
Oh I love to go out fishing
In a river or a creek
But I don't enjoy it half as much
As dancing cheek to cheek
(come on and) dance with me
I want my arm(s) about you
That (those) charm(s) about you
Will carry me through...
(right up) to heaven, I'm in heaven
And my heart beats so that I can hardly speak
And I seem to find the happiness I seek
When we're out together dancing, out together dancing (swinging)
Out together dancing cheek to cheek
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dyslexia
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Thu 2 Jun, 2005 06:37 pm
(Hey baby, what do I have to do to make a hit with you)
You gotta dance with me Henry
(All right baby)
Dance with me Henry
(Don't mean maybe)
Rock with me Henry
(Any old time)
Talk to me Henry
(Don't change your mind)
Dance with me Henry
(All right)
You better dance while the music goes on
Roll on, roll on, roll on
While the cats are ballin'
You better stop your stallin'
It's intermission in a minute
So you better get with it
Dance with me Henry
You better dance while the music goes on
Roll on, roll on, roll on
Oooooooo-wee
Henry, you ain't movin' me
You better feel that boogie beat
And get the lead out of your feet
You gotta dance with me Henry
Dance with me Henry
Rock with me Henry
Talk to me Henry
Dance with me Henry
You better dance while the music goes on
Roll roll roll
Roll roll roll
Rock rock rock
Rock rock rock
Roll roll roll
Roll on, roll on, roll on
Rock with me Henry
(All right baby)
Dance with me Henry
(Don't mean maybe)
Rock with me Henry
(Any old time)
Dance with me Henry
(Don't change your mind)
Jump with me Henry
(All right)
You better dance, dance
While the music goes on
Roll on
Roll on
Roll on
Roll on
Rock
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edgarblythe
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Thu 2 Jun, 2005 06:39 pm
How High's the Watergate
By Phil Ochs
How high is the watergate, Mama, she said it's one foot high and risin'
How high is the watergate, Pama, he said it's two feet high and risin'
There's a flood around the poker game (There's a bug on the window pane)
Gerry Ford must be insane
Oh, my God, it's Mickey Spillane,
The tides are risin' (Two feet high and rising)
How high is the watergate, Mama, three feet high and risin'
How high is the watergate, Pama, three feet high and risin'
In the Swiss bank the money's stashed
18 minutes of tapes were slashed
They've even taken in Johnny Cash
Three feet high and rising
How high is the watergate, Mama, four feet high and risin'
How high is the watergate, Pama, four feet high and risin'
Nixon's gone and taught you lies (Nixon doesn't talk, he lies)
A face that screams out for replies (...for a pie)
And the only one workin's is David Frye,
Oh the tides are risin' (four feet high and risin')
How high is the watergate, Mama, five feet high and risin'
How high is the watergate, Pama, five feet high and risin'
If there ever was a crook, he's it
Perversion is the soul of wit
Pack your shovel, he's full of ****,
The tides are risin' (five feet high and risin')
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Thu 2 Jun, 2005 06:46 pm
hmmm, dys. Seems to me I've heard that song before, the lyrics said forever more. Hold on, that's not what our dys was playing, it was some other song, I think.
Perhaps this one listeners?
Adapted from the 1844 minstrel song by Cool White, "Lubly Fan;" also known
as "Buffalo Gals."
Featured in the 1945 film "On Stage Everybody."
As I was walkin' down the street,
Down the street, down the street,
I met somebody who was mighty sweet,
Mighty fair to see.
I asked her would she like to have a talk,
Have a talk, make some talk,
All the fellows standin' on the walk
Wishin' they were me:
Mama, Mama let me dress up tonight,
Dress up tonight, dress up tonight,
I've got a secret, gonna 'fess up tonight
Gonna dance by the light of the moon.
Gonna dance with a dolly with a hole in her stockin'
While our knees keep aknockin' and our toes keep arockin'
Dance with a dolly with a hole in her stockin'
Dance by the light of the moon.
Mama, Mama put the cat out tonight.
Cat out tonight, cat out tonigh,.
Worked all day I'm gonna scat out tonight
And I won't be home until dawn.
Gaonna dace with a dolly with a hole in her stockin'
While our knees keep a knockin' and our toes keep a rockin'
Dance with a dolly with a hole in her stockin'
Dance by the light of the moon.
Gonna dance by the light of the moon,
Dance by the light of the moon,
By the light of the moon.
OOOOOOh, witches dance in the forest by the light of the moon.
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Letty
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Thu 2 Jun, 2005 06:55 pm
edgar. WOW! as dj once said, I'm songless. <smile>
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bobsmythhawk
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Thu 2 Jun, 2005 07:01 pm
THE POWER OF LOVE
Celine Dion
(Gunther Mende, Candy DeRouge, Jennifer Rush, Mary Susan Applegate)
The whispers in the morning
Of lovers sleeping tight
Are rolling like thunder now
As I look in your eyes
I hold on to your body
And feel each move you make
Your voice is warm and tender
A love that I could not forsake
(First Chorus)
'Cause I am your lady
And you are my man
Whenever you reach for me
I'll do all that I can
Lost is how I'm feeling lying in your arms
When the world outside's too
Much to take
That all ends when I'm with you
Even though there may be times
It seems I'm far away
(But) Never wonder where I am
'Cause I am always by your side
(Repeat first chorus)
(Second Chorus)
We're heading for something
Somewhere I've never been
Sometimes I am frightened
But I'm ready to learn
('Bout) Of the power of love
The sound of your heart beating
Made it clear
Suddenly the feeling that I can't go on
Is light years away