satt, Welcome back. Yes, they are lovely lyrics in any language.
More later, because there are some things that I would like to ask you.
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Wed 30 May, 2007 05:25 pm
Wow, edgar. Dylan makes many reference to the Bible in his songs, no? They are usually a bit sarcastic, but done in such a creative way that I always reread them.
Speaking of highways and byways, here's one for the road.
America
Chewing on a piece of grass
Walking down the road
Tell me, how long you gonna stay here, Joe?
Some people say this town don't look good in snow
You don't care, I know
Ventura Highway in the sunshine
Where the days are longer
The nights are stronger than moonshine
You're gonna go I know
'Cause the free wind is blowin' through your hair
And the days surround your daylight there
Seasons crying no despair
Alligator lizards in the air, in the air
Did di di di dit ...
Wishin' on a falling star
Waitin' for the early train
Sorry boy, but I've been hit by purple rain
Aw, come on, Joe, you can always
Change your name
Thanks a lot, son, just the same
Ventura Highway in the sunshine
Where the days are longer
The nights are stronger than moonshine
You're gonna go I know
'Cause the free wind is blowin' through your hair
And the days surround your daylight there
Seasons crying no despair
Alligator lizards in the air, in the air
Did di di di dit ...
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Wed 30 May, 2007 07:10 pm
From the highway to my bed, as I must say goodnight.
An Evening Song.
Look off, dear Love, across the sallow sands,
And mark yon meeting of the sun and sea,
How long they kiss in sight of all the lands.
Ah! longer, longer, we.
Now in the sea's red vintage melts the sun,
As Egypt's pearl dissolved in rosy wine,
And Cleopatra night drinks all. 'Tis done,
Love, lay thine hand in mine.
Come forth, sweet stars, and comfort heaven's heart;
Glimmer, ye waves, round else unlighted sands.
O night! divorce our sun and sky apart
Never our lips, our hands.
Sidney Lanier
From Letty with love
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Wed 30 May, 2007 08:41 pm
satt fs wrote:
Very beautiful lyrics and excellent translation! Thank you, yitwail.
I enjoy the English version. :wink:
that's flattering. it's from anime, is it? since the lyrics omit all pronouns except "you" (anata) i had to guess whether "i" or "we" would be correct in many places, and i did have to look up a few words, like komorebi & yuragu.
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Wed 30 May, 2007 08:59 pm
Party Lights
Claudine Clark
(Party lights, I see the party lights)
Whoooooooa, oh, oh, oooooh
(They're red and blue and green)
Lights
(Everybody in the crowd is there)
Mama, I wanna go, go, go, go, go
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
(Mama, Mama)
Well, Mama dear, oh, tell me, do you hear
They're partying tonight
I tell you, I can't sleep
Because across the street
A-oh, a-oh, I see the party lights
(Mama, Mama)
I see the lights, I see the party lights
They're red and blue and green
Oh, everybody in the crowd is there
But you won't let me make the scene
(Mama, Mama)
Oh, Mama dear, oh, look here, oh, dear
There goes Mary Lou
I see Tommy and Joe, oh-oh and Betty Sue
Oh-oh, a-oh and there goes my boyfriend too
I see the lights...
I see the lights, I see the party lights
They're red and blue and green
Oh, everybody in the crowd is there
But you won't let me make the scene
Listen to the party, Mama
---- Instrumental Interlude ----
Oh, Mama dear, oh, look here, oh dear
I'm feeling, oh, so blue
They're doin' the twist, the fish
The mashed potatoes too
I'm here a-lookin' at you
I see the lights...
I see the lights
I see the party lights
They're red and blue and green
Everybody in the crowd is there
But you won't let me make the scene
They're doin' the fish
A doin' the twist
The watusi, the mashed potatoes
I see the lights, I see the lights
They're doin' the bop, I wanna go
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Wed 30 May, 2007 09:17 pm
There, I've Said It Again
Vaughn Monroe
I love you, there's nothing to hide
It's better than burning inside
I love you, no use to pretend
There, I've said it again
I've said it, what more can I say
Believe me, there's no other way
I love you, I will to the end
There, I've said it again
I've tried to drum up
A phrase that would sum up
All that I feel for you
But what good are phrases
The thought that amazes
Is you love me, and it's heavenly
Forgive me for wanting you so
But one thing I want you to know
I've loved you since heaven knows when
There, I've said it again
---- Instrumanal Interlude ----
Forgive me for wanting you so
But one thing I want you to know
I've loved you since heaven knows when
There I go, there I've said it again
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Wed 30 May, 2007 09:19 pm
Lily Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts
The festival was over, the boys were all plannin' for a fall,
The cabaret was quiet except for the drillin' in the wall.
The curfew had been lifted and the gamblin' wheel shut down,
Anyone with any sense had already left town.
He was standin' in the doorway lookin' like the Jack of Hearts.
He moved across the mirrored room, "Set it up for everyone," he said,
Then everyone commenced to do what they were doin' before he turned their heads.
Then he walked up to a stranger and he asked him with a grin,
"Could you kindly tell me, friend, what time the show begins?"
Then he moved into the corner, face down like the Jack of Hearts.
Backstage the girls were playin' five-card stud by the stairs,
Lily had two queens, she was hopin' for a third to match her pair.
Outside the streets were fillin' up, the window was open wide,
A gentle breeze was blowin', you could feel it from inside.
Lily called another bet and drew up the Jack of Hearts.
Big Jim was no one's fool, he owned the town's only diamond mine,
He made his usual entrance lookin' so dandy and so fine.
With his bodyguards and silver cane and every hair in place,
He took whatever he wanted to and he laid it all to waste.
But his bodyguards and silver cane were no match for the Jack of Hearts.
Rosemary combed her hair and took a carriage into town,
She slipped in through the side door lookin' like a queen without a crown.
She fluttered her false eyelashes and whispered in his ear,
"Sorry, darlin', that I'm late," but he didn't seem to hear.
He was starin' into space over at the Jack of Hearts.
"I know I've seen that face before," Big Jim was thinkin' to himself,
"Maybe down in Mexico or a picture up on somebody's shelf."
But then the crowd began to stamp their feet and the house lights did dim
And in the darkness of the room there was only Jim and him,
Starin' at the butterfly who just drew the Jack of Hearts.
Lily was a princess, she was fair-skinned and precious as a child,
She did whatever she had to do, she had that certain flash every time she smiled.
She'd come away from a broken home, had lots of strange affairs
With men in every walk of life which took her everywhere.
But she'd never met anyone quite like the Jack of Hearts.
The hangin' judge came in unnoticed and was being wined and dined,
The drillin' in the wall kept up but no one seemed to pay it any mind.
It was known all around that Lily had Jim's ring
And nothing would ever come between Lily and the king.
No, nothin' ever would except maybe the Jack of Hearts.
Rosemary started drinkin' hard and seein' her reflection in the knife,
She was tired of the attention, tired of playin' the role of Big Jim's wife.
She had done a lot of bad things, even once tried suicide,
Was lookin' to do just one good deed before she died.
She was gazin' to the future, riding on the Jack of Hearts.
Lily washed her face, took her dress off and buried it away.
"Has your luck run out?" she laughed at him, "Well, I guess you must
have known it would someday.
Be careful not to touch the wall, there's a brand-new coat of paint,
I'm glad to see you're still alive, you're lookin' like a saint."
Down the hallway footsteps were comin' for the Jack of Hearts.
The backstage manager was pacing all around by his chair.
"There's something funny going on," he said, "I can just feel it in the air."
He went to get the hangin' judge, but the hangin' judge was drunk,
As the leading actor hurried by in the costume of a monk.
There was no actor anywhere better than the Jack of Hearts.
No one knew the circumstance but they say that it happened very quick,
The door to the dressing room burst open and a colt revolver clicked.
And Big Jim was standin' there, ya couldn't say surprise,
Rosemary right beside him, studyin' her eyes.
She was with Big Jim but she was leanin' to the Jack of Hearts.
Two doors down the boys finally made it through the wall
And cleaned out the bank safe, it's said that they got off with quite a haul.
In the darkness by the riverbed they waited on the ground
For one more member who had business back in town.
But they couldn't go no further without the Jack of Hearts.
The next day was hangin' day, the sky was overcast and black,
Big Jim lay covered up, killed by a penknife in the back.
And Rosemary on the gallows, she didn't even blink,
The hangin' judge was sober, he hadn't had a drink.
The only person on the scene missin' was the Jack of Hearts.
The cabaret was empty now, a sign said, "Closed for repair,"
Lily had already taken all of the dye out of her hair.
She was thinkin' 'bout her father, who she very rarely saw,
Thinkin' 'bout Rosemary and thinkin' about the law.
But, most of all she was thinkin' 'bout the Jack of Hearts.
Bob Dylan
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Wed 30 May, 2007 11:19 pm
yitwail wrote:
satt fs wrote:
Very beautiful lyrics and excellent translation! Thank you, yitwail.
I enjoy the English version. :wink:
that's flattering. it's from anime, is it?
Your translation conveys the flavor of the original lyrics.
The song lyrics were written for an animated story ("Anime") of the title, "Howl's Moving Castle" by Shuntaro Tanigawa, who is one of the major poets in Japan. The original written in Japanese seems very difficult to appreciate. (I hesitated to translate the lyrics.)
satt, thanks for the melody. the clip is pleasant, but doesn't shed much light on the meaning of the lyrics. maybe it's supposed to be ambiguous...nothing wrong with a little ambiguity
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Thu 31 May, 2007 03:26 am
Good morning, WA2K listeners and contributors.
First, allow me to thank our edgar for the delightful trio of songs. Jack of Hearts rather reminds me of the song Jack of Diamonds. Don't ask, cause I don't know why I know it.
M.D. and satt, I think Disney has also done that anime. It is so nice to have someone who can interpret and translate for us here on our little radio.
A morning song for everyone, and I am totally fascinated by Sidney and his background.
A Sunrise Song.
Young palmer sun, that to these shining sands
Pourest thy pilgrim's tale, discoursing still
Thy silver passages of sacred lands,
With news of Sepulchre and Dolorous Hill,
Canst thou be he that, yester-sunset warm,
Purple with Paynim rage and wrack desire,
Dashed ravening out of a dusty lair of Storm,
Harried the west, and set the world on fire?
Hast thou perchance repented, Saracen Sun?
Wilt warm the world with peace and dove-desire?
Or wilt thou, ere this very day be done,
Blaze Saladin still, with unforgiving fire?
Sidney Lanier
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Thu 31 May, 2007 06:47 am
On this day in 1955 - The U.S. Supreme Court ordered that all states must end racial segregation "with all deliberate speed."
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Thu 31 May, 2007 07:26 am
About time, right dys?
and here's history in a song, folks.
We Didn't Start The Fire Lyrics
Artist(Band):Billy Joel
Harry Truman, Doris Day, Red China, Johnnie Ray
South Pacific, Walter Winchell, Joe DiMaggio
Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, Studebaker, Television
North Korea, South Korea, Marilyn Monroe
Rosenbergs, H Bomb, Sugar Ray, Panmunjom
Brando, The King And I, and The Catcher In The Rye
Eisenhower, Vaccine, England's got a new queen
Marciano, Liberace, Santayana goodbye
We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
Well, we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it
Joseph Stalin, Malenkov, Nasser and Prokofiev
Rockefeller, Campanella, Communist Bloc
Roy Cohn, Juan Peron, Toscanini, Dacron
Dien Bien Phu Falls, Rock Around the Clock
Einstein, James Dean, Brooklyn's got a winning team
Davy Crockett, Peter Pan, Elvis Presley, Disneyland
Bob Dole, Budapest, Alabama, Khrushchev
Princess Grace, Peyton Place, Trouble in the Suez
We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
Well, we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it
Little Rock, Pasternak, Mickey Mantle, Kerouac
Sputnik, Chou En-Lai, Bridge On The River Kwai
Lebanon, Charles de Gaulle, California Baseball,
Starkwether, Homicide, Children of Thalidomide
Buddy Holly, Ben Hur, Space Monkey, Mafia
Hula Hoops, Castro, Edsel is a no-go
U2, Syngman Rhee, payola and Kennedy
Chubby Checker, Psycho, Belgians in the Congo
We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
Well, we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it
Hemingway, Eichmann, Stranger in a Strange Land,
Dylan, Berlin, Bay of Pigs invasion
Lawrence of Arabia, British Beatlemania
Ole Miss, John Glenn, Liston beats Patterson
Pope Paul, Malcolm X, British Politician sex
J.F.K. blown away, what else do I have to say
We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
Well, we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it
Birth control, Ho Chi Minh, Richard Nixon back again
Moonshot, Woodstock, Watergate, punk rock
Begin, Reagan, Palestine, Terror on the airline
Ayatollah's in Iran, Russians in Afghanistan
Wheel of Fortune, Sally Ride, heavy metal, suicide
Foreign debts, homeless Vets, AIDS, Crack, Bernie Goetz
Hypodermics on the shores, China's under martial law
Rock and Roller cola wars, I can't take it anymore
We didn't start the fire
It was always burning since the world's been turning.
We didn't start the fire
But when we are gone
It will still burn on, and on, and on, and on...
We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
Well, we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it
We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
Well, we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it
We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire...
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Thu 31 May, 2007 08:52 am
Don Ameche
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Birth name Dominic Felix Amici
Born May 31, 1908
Kenosha, Wisconsin, USA
Died December 6, 1993
Scottsdale, Arizona, USA
Spouse(s) Honore Prendergast (1932-1986)
Academy Awards
Best Supporting Actor
1985 Cocoon
Dominic Felix Ameche (May 31, 1908 - December 6, 1993) was an Academy Award-winning American actor and director.
Ameche was born in Kenosha, Wisconsin to Felix Ameche, an immigrant from Italy whose original surname was "Amici", and Barbara, who was of Irish and German descent.[1]
Career
Ameche began his career in vaudeville with Texas Guinan until Guinan dropped him from the act, dismissing him as "too stiff".[2] He made his film debut in 1935 and, by the late thirties, had established himself as a leading actor in Hollywood. He appeared successfully in such films as Alexander's Ragtime Band (1938), as the title character in The Story of Alexander Graham Bell (1939), and Heaven Can Wait (1943) co-starring Gene Tierney.
He was so associated by the public with his role as Bell that for a time, "Ameche" was slang for telephone.[citation needed] By the end of the decade, his films had lost their appeal, and he turned to radio, as the announcer and 'sketch' participant for the show of Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy. He then achieved great success during the late 1940's and early 1950's playing opposite Frances Langford in The Bickersons.
Ameche enjoyed a substantial Broadway career with roles in Silk Stockings, Goldilocks, Holiday for Lovers, Henry, Sweet Henry, and Our Town.
Between 1961 and 1965, Ameche sat in the grandstand of a different European resident circus each week to serve as host/commentator on International Showtime. The program aired on NBC television.
In the late 1960s and early 1970s, Ameche directed the NBC television drama series Julia, starring Diahann Carroll. For three decades, he was virtually absent from films, until he was cast alongside fellow veteran actor Ralph Bellamy in the film Trading Places in 1983. The actors played rich brothers intent on ruining an innocent man for the sake of a one-dollar bet. The film's great success, and their acclaimed comedic performances, brought them both back into the limelight. In an interview some years later on Larry King Live, co-star Jamie Lee Curtis said that Ameche, a proper old-school actor, went to everyone on the set to apologize ahead of time when he had to say the "f-word" in the film.
Ameche's next role, in Cocoon (1985), won him an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor. He continued working for the rest of his life (including a role in the sequel, Cocoon: The Return). His last films were Homeward Bound: The Incredible Journey (1993), and Corrina, Corrina (1994), and his final scenes for the film Corrina, Corrina (1994) were completed only days before his death in Scottsdale, Arizona from prostate cancer.
For his contribution to radio, Ameche received a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame at 6313 Hollywood Boulevard and a second star at 6101 Hollywood Boulevard for his television work.
Personal life
He was married to Honore Prendergast from 1932 until her death in 1986, with whom he had six children. One of them, Ron Ameche, owned the restaurant "Ameche's Pumpernickel" in Coralville, Iowa. Ameche's late younger brother Jim Ameche was also an actor.
Ameche died on December 6, 1993. He was buried at Resurrection Catholic Cemetery, also known as St. Philomena Cemetery, in Asbury, Iowa.
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Thu 31 May, 2007 09:04 am
Lea Thompson
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Lea Katherine Thompson (born May 31, 1961, in Rochester, Minnesota) is an American actress.
Early life
She studied dance as a girl, and would practice three to four hours every day. She was dancing professionally by the age of 14. Lea then won scholarships to several ballet schools, including The American Ballet Theatre and The San Francisco Ballet. She danced with the The Minnesota Dance Theatre, The Pennsylvania Ballet Company, and The Ballet Repertory.
She was informed by Baryshnikov that she was "too stocky". Due to this (as well as some small little nagging injuries) she decided to give up dancing in favor of an acting career. She moved to New York at the age of 20, and performed in a number of Burger King ads in the 1980s along with Elisabeth Shue, her eventual co-star in the Back to the Future movies.
Career
Her first significant movie role was in All the Right Moves (1983) with Tom Cruise. That was followed by Red Dawn (1984) and The Wild Life (1984). Her most famous role was that of Lorraine Baines McFly in the Back to the Future trilogy; her character is mother of the main character played by Michael J. Fox. In real life Thompson is the same age as Michael J. Fox. She also starred in the movies SpaceCamp (1986) and Howard The Duck (1986), both considered commercial flops. She is also known for playing Alice Mitchell in the film version of Dennis the Menace (1993).
Lea was nominated for a Cable ACE Award for her outstanding work in Nightbreaker, and she has been a winner of the People's Choice Award. Lea also received critical acclaim for her work with Farrah Fawcett in The Substitute Wife.
Thompson found critical and popular success as the star of the NBC sitcom Caroline in the City from 1995-1999.
In 2005, Thompson starred in a series of made-for-TV movies for the Hallmark Channel in which she plays "Jane Doe," an ex-secret agent turned housewife who helps the government solve mysteries. She also played a guest role in a 2004 episode of NBC's Law & Order: Special Victims Unit, playing a woman who had her embryos stolen.
Thompson was a featured celebrity singer on Celebrity Duets and was the 2nd contestant Eliminated (Friday, Sept. 8, 2006).
Personal life
She is married to film director Howard Deutch. She first met Howard on the set of Some Kind of Wonderful. They have two daughters, Madeline and Zoey. Thompson had previously been engaged to Dennis Quaid, her Jaws 3-D co-star.
Has a brother, Andrew Thompson, who made a successful career with the Colorado Ballet. They both took ballet classes in their youth and he even helped her pay for classes.
Danced in more than 45 ballets with the American Ballet Theatre.
Won scholarships to the School of American Ballet and the American Ballet Theatre.
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Thu 31 May, 2007 09:07 am
On this day in 1957 American playwright Arthur Miller was convicted of contempt of Congress. The conviction related to an investigation the previous year by the House of Representatives' Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) into a Communist conspiracy to misuse American passports.
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Thu 31 May, 2007 09:09 am
Brooke Shields
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Born May 31, 1965 (1965-05-31)
New York City, New York
Spouse(s) Chris Henchy (2001 - present)
Andre Agassi (1997 - 1999) (annuled)
Notable roles Violet in Pretty Baby
Emmeline Lestrange in
The Blue Lagoon
Jade Butterfield
in Endless Love
Christa Brooke Camille Shields[1] (born May 31, 1965) is an American actress and supermodel.
Biography
Career
Shields' career as a model began in the 1960s as an infant, and she continued as a successful child model throughout the 1970s. In early 1980 (at age 14), Shields was the youngest fashion model to ever appear on the cover of the top fashion publication Vogue magazine. Later that same year (at age 15), Shields appeared in controversial print and TV ads for Calvin Klein jeans. The TV ad included her saying the famous tagline, "Do you wanna know what comes between me and my Calvins? Nothing."
By the age of 16, Shields had become one of the most recognizable faces in the world because of her dual career as a provocative fashion model and controversial child actress. TIME magazine reported, in its February 9, 1981 cover story, that her day rate as a model was $10,000. In 1983 Shields appeared on the cover of the September issue of Paris VOGUE, the October and November issues of American VOGUE and the December edition of Italian VOGUE.
Shields's film career began in 1978 with her appearance in Louis Malle's Pretty Baby, a movie in which she played a child living in a brothel (and in which there were numerous nude scenes). Because she was only 12 when the film was released, and possibly 11 when it was filmed, questions were raised about child pornography. This was followed by a slightly less controversial, but also less notable film, Wanda Nevada (1979).
After two decades of movies, her best-known films are still arguably The Blue Lagoon (1980), which included a number of nude scenes between teenage cousins on a deserted island (Shields later testified before a U.S. Congressional inquiry that older body doubles were used in some of them), and Endless Love (1981). She won the People's Choice Award in the category of Favorite Young Performer in four consecutive years from 1981 to 1984.
Shields put her film career on hold to attend Princeton University from 1983 to 1987, graduating with a degree in French literature. Her senior thesis was titled "The Initiation: From Innocence to Experience: The Pre-Adolescent/Adolescent Journey in the Films of Louis Malle, Pretty Baby and Lacombe Lucien." It was here at Princeton where she spoke openly about her sexuality and virginity. During her tenure at Princeton, Shields was a member of the Princeton Triangle Club and the Cap and Gown Club.
Shields' career stalled at various times, and she has told interviewers that her height (6'0") prevented her from getting roles opposite shorter male actors.
Shields has appeared in a number of television shows, the most successful being the NBC sitcom Suddenly Susan, in which she starred from 1996 until 2000 and which earned her a People's Choice Award in the category of Favorite Female Performer in a New Television Series in 1997.
Shields has appeared in many on-stage productions, mostly musical revivals, including Grease, Cabaret, Wonderful Town and Chicago on Broadway; she also performed in Chicago in London's West End.
Shields made a couple of guest appearances on That '70s Show. She played Mrs. Burkhart, Jackie's (Mila Kunis) mother, who later was briefly involved with Donna's (Laura Prepon) father (played by Don Stark). Shields left That '70s Show when her character was written out. Shields recorded the narration for the SONY/BMG recording of The Runaway Bunny, a Concerto for Violin, Orchestra, and Reader by Glen Roven. It was performed by the Royal Philharmonic and Ittai Shapira.
Her paternal grandparents were Francis Xavier Shields, a tennis star of Irish descent, and his second wife, Donna Marina Torlonia di Civitella-Cesi, a half-Italian, half-American socialite who was a sister of Don Alessandro Torlonia, 5th Prince di Civitella-Cesi, the husband of Infanta Beatriz of Spain (an aunt of King Juan Carlos I of Spain). Shields is a second cousin once removed of the actress Glenn Close. Shields's great-grandmother Mary Elsie Moore (wife of Don Marino Torlonia, 4th Prince di Civitella-Cesi) was Close's great-aunt, a sister of Close's maternal grandfather, Charles Arthur Moore.
During the 1980s and 1990s, Shields' romantic relationships were the subject of many tabloid articles. Among the celebrities she dated were Ted McGinley (her high school prom escort), Dean Cain (her Princeton roommate and the first man with whom she had sex, according to an article published by the Associated Press)[2], John F. Kennedy Jr., Michael Bolton, Prince Albert II of Monaco, and Michael Jackson (his date to the 1984 Grammy Awards).
Shields was married from April 19, 1997, to April 9, 1999, to professional tennis player Andre Agassi; their marriage was annulled. Since April 4, 2001, she has been married to television writer Chris Henchy. They have two daughters: Rowan Francis (b. May 15, 2003) and Grier Hammond (b. April 18, 2006). Coincidentally, Shields' second child was born on the same day and in the same hospital as the first child of Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise, Suri.
Postpartum depression
In the spring of 2005, Shields spoke to magazines (such as the Guideposts shown here) and appeared on The Oprah Winfrey Show to publicize her battle with postpartum depression, an experience that included depression, thoughts of suicide, an inability to respond to her baby's needs, and delayed maternal bonding. The illness may have been triggered by a traumatic childbirth, the death of her father three weeks earlier, stress from in vitro fertilization, a miscarriage, and a family history of depression, as well as the hormones and life changes brought on by childbirth. Her book, Down Came the Rain, discusses her experience.[2]
In May 2005, Tom Cruise, a Scientologist whose religion frowns upon psychiatry, condemned Shields both personally and professionally, particularly for both using and speaking in favor of the antidepressant drug Paxil. As Cruise said, "Here is a woman, and I care about Brooke Shields because I think she is an incredibly talented woman, you look at [and think], where has her career gone?" Shields responded that Cruise's statements about anti-depressants were "irresponsible" and "dangerous." She said he should "stick to fighting aliens", (a reference to Cruise's starring role in War of the Worlds as well as some of the more exotic aspects of Scientology doctrine and teachings), "and let mothers decide the best way to treat postpartum depression." The actress responded to a further attack by Cruise in an essay War of Words published in The New York Times on July 1, 2005, in which she made an individual case for the medication and said, "In a strange way, it was comforting to me when my obstetrician told me that my feelings of extreme despair and my suicidal thoughts were directly tied to a biochemical shift in my body. Once we admit that postpartum is a serious medical condition, then the treatment becomes more available and socially acceptable. With a doctor's care, I have since tapered off the medication, but without it, I wouldn't have become the loving parent I am today." ([3]). On Thursday, August 31, 2006, according to USAToday.com [4], Cruise privately apologized to Shields for the incident, and Shields accepted, saying it was "heartfelt". Three months later, she and her husband attended the wedding of Cruise and Katie Holmes in November 2006.
Since writing her book, Shields has guest-starred on shows like FX's Nip/Tuck and CBS' Two and a Half Men.
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Thu 31 May, 2007 09:10 am
A girl walked up to the information desk in a hospital and
asked to see the "upturn".
"I think you mean the 'intern', don't you?" asked the nurse on duty.
"Yes," said the girl. "I want to have a 'contamination. '"
"You mean 'examination, '" the nurse corrected her.
"Well I want to go to the 'fraternity ward,' anyway."
"I'm sure you mean the maternity ward."
To which the girl replied: "Upturn, intern; contamination,
examination, fraternity, maternity... . what's the difference?
All I know is I haven't demonstrated in two months,
and I think I'm stagnant."