Sorry we broke up, sorry I missed you
Sorry I wanted only to kiss you
Sorry I promised to love you forever
Made you feel guilty oh when you left me
Sorry I showed up at your party
Sorry I drank up all the Bacardi
Sorry I puked up on your bedspread
Sorry I wanted to be your boyfriend again
What can I do?
It's over it's over it's over it's over
What can I do?
I am the loser
Sorry I saw you and I heard birds sing
Sorry I touched you and I heard bells ring
Sorry I jacked off outside of your window
While you were sleeping, I thought you'd never know
Sorry I showed up at your wedding
Sorry I tried so hard to get in
Sorry I screwed up your picture
Sorry I had sex with your sister
What can I do?
It's over, it's over, it's over, it's over
What can I do?
I am the loser
Sorry we broke up, sorry I missed you
Sorry I wanted only to kiss you
Sorry I promised to love you forever
Made you feel guilty oh when you left me
Sorry I showed up at your dinner
Sorry I said those things to your father
Sorry I crashed through your window on acid
Sorry I made a mess
Sorry I bled to death
What can I do?
It's over it's over it's over it's over
What can I do?
I am the loser
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Letty
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Sat 8 Jul, 2006 05:37 pm
dj, I loved the imagery in Crooked Teeth. especially this verse, Canada.
"Cause at night the sun in retreat,
Made the skyline look like crooked teeth,
In the mouth of a man who was devouring, us both."
The "hate me" song, we may have to digest, but I understand the connotation, dear.
Wonder where our Latin Lover is, folks? Hey, George, this one is for you my furry friend.
La Ge.Fa. Blues Band
» El Latin Lover
Soy un latin lover, tra lar?oy un latin lover
Soy un latin lover, tra lar?aremos el amor... ?toda la noche!!
Con mi fardapollas voy a posar
con mi fardapollas
con mi fardapollas voy a posar
y posare...?toda la noche!!
Despues de cuatro polvos sin sacar
despues de cuatro polvos
Despues de cuatro polvos sin sacar
me lo agradeceras...?toda la noche!!
En mi tripa cervecera tu dormiras
en mi tripa cervercera
En mi tripa cervecera tu dormiras
y descansaras...?toda la noche!!
?? Soy un latin lover Tra lar?soy un latin lover,
soy un latin lover Tra lar?Haremos el amor...HASTA QUE EXPLOTES !!!!
Hope there was nothing bad in that song. <smile>
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Sat 8 Jul, 2006 05:38 pm
hm, dj, sharp lyrics about common people, i liked it. here's an oldie by Ms. Nina Simone, who sang some songs with attitude in her day.
My baby don't care for shows
My baby don't care for clothes
My baby just cares for me
My baby don't care for cars and races
My baby don't care for high-tone places
Liz Taylor is not his style
And even Lana Turner's smile
Is somethin' he can't see
My baby don't care who knows
My baby just cares for me
Baby, my baby don't care for shows
And he don't even care for clothes
He cares for me
My baby don't care
For cars and races
My baby don't care for
He don't care for high-tone places
Liz Taylor is not his style
And even Liberace's smile
Is something he can't see
Is something he can't see
I wonder what's wrong with baby
My baby just cares for
My baby just cares for
My baby just cares for me
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Sat 8 Jul, 2006 05:39 pm
i have crew of angsty teenagers working with me this summer, and we are listening to lots of angsty teenage music, a genre i'm well disposed to so it's no real hardship
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Sat 8 Jul, 2006 05:40 pm
yitwail wrote:
hm, dj, sharp lyrics about common people, i liked it.
you should hear the william shatner cover of the song, produced by ben folds, very interesting
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Sat 8 Jul, 2006 05:45 pm
Letty wrote:
dj, I loved the imagery in Crooked Teeth. especially this verse, Canada.
"Cause at night the sun in retreat,
Made the skyline look like crooked teeth,
In the mouth of a man who was devouring, us both."
DCFC, paint some interesting lyrical portraits
another fave
Styrofoam Plates
Death Cab For Cutie
There's a salt water film on the jar of your ashes; I threw them to the sea,
but a gust blew them backwards and the sting in my eyes
that you then inflicted was par for the course just as when you were living.
It's no stretch to say you were not quite a father
but the donor of seeds to a poor, single mother that would raise us alone.
We never saw the money that went down your throat
through the hole in your belly.
Thirteen years old in the suburbs of Denver,
standing in line for Thanksgiving dinner at the Catholic church.
The servers wore crosses to shield from the sufferance plaguing the others.
Styrofoam plates, cafeteria tables,
charity reeks of cheap wine and pity and I'm thinking of you,
I do every year when we count all our blessings
and wonder what we're doing here.
You're a disgrace to the concept of family.
The priest won't divulge that fact in his homily
and I'll stand up and scream if in the mourning remain quiet,
you can deck out a lie in a suit.
But I won't buy it.
I won't join the procession that's speaking their piece,
using five dollar words while praising his integrity.
Just 'cause he's gone, it doesn't change that fact:
he was bastard in life, thus a bastard in death.
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Sat 8 Jul, 2006 05:51 pm
Hey, Mr. Turtle. I like yours as well, cause I knows that one. <smile>
dj, You'll have to tell us more about your teens and their angst, buddy. I know a little bit about that situation.
Per request, folks:
Van Morrison
It seems like it must have been something that I said
Something that somebody must have done
This is a song
It's got a whole lot of soul
When I seen you by the way before
In New York City
I think it was on Eighth Street, right?
Or was it in San Francisco, whatever
Always put the first one first
And the second one, second
Come in the garden and look at the flowers
That's what you were saying, right?
Come in my garden and look at the flowers
We can Just sit and talk for hours and hours
Come in my garden, come in my garden
Come in my garden
Come in my, come in my, come in my garden
Come in my, come in my, come in my garden
Come in my garden, come in my garden
Look at the flowers, we can just sit and talk
And feel
As the sun come over the valley
As the sun come over the valley
I believe
I like the way
I like your face from the left side
As you go
As you go stepping out queen
Stepping out queen
It's just a windfall away, it's just a windfall away
It's a windfall away
As you, as you, as you, as you go, as you go
Stepping out queen
Let me see you step out
Come on!
As you go steppin' out queen
You can promenade
You can promenade
When you step
With a little bit of hip action
You go steppin' out queen
just a little bit of hip for the trip
As you go
Steppin' out queen
I said give me a little bit of shoulder slide
Come on
Da, dada, do dodo, do dodo, do dodo, do doooo
Come on baby I just wanna reach out
I wanna reach out and touch you
I don't wanna talk
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Sat 8 Jul, 2006 06:30 pm
Letty wrote:
dj, You'll have to tell us more about your teens and their angst, buddy. I know a little bit about that situation.
the band cracker had this to say about teen angst
Teen Angst (What The World Needs Now)
Cracker
I don't know what the world may need,
but I'm sure as hell that is starts with me.
And that's a wisdom,
I've laughed at.
I don't know what the world may want,
but a good stiff drink it surely don't.
So I think I'll go and fix myself a tall one.
Cause, what the world needs now
is a new kind of tension.
Cause the old one just bores me to death.
Cause, what the world needs now
is another folk singer
like I need a hole in my head.
I don't know what the world may need,
but a V8 engine is a good start for me.
Think I'll drive to find a place,
to be surly.
I don't know what the world may want,
but some words of wisdom could comfort us.
Think I'll leave that up to someone wiser.
Cause, what the world needs now
are some true words of wisdom
like La La La La La
Cause, what the world needs now
is another folk singer
like I need a hole in my head.
I don't know what the world may need,
and I never grasped your complexities.
I'd be happy just to get your attention.
And, I don't know what the world may want,
but your long, sweet body lying next
to mine could certainly raise my spirits.
Cause what the world needs now
is a new Frank Sinatra
so I can get you in bed.
Cause what the world needs now
is another folk singer
like I need a hole in my head.
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Sat 8 Jul, 2006 06:36 pm
I was just gonna ask when
"You Took The Words Right Out Of My Mouth (Hot Summer Night)"
MEAT LOAF lyrics -
[Spoken:]
[Boy:] On a hot summer night,
would you offer your throat to the wolf with the red roses?
[Girl:] Will he offer me his mouth?
[Boy:] Yes.
[Girl:] Will he offer me his teeth?
[Boy:] Yes.
[Girl:] Will he offer me his jaws?
[Boy:] Yes.
[Girl:] Will he offer me his hunger?
[Boy:] Yes.
[Girl:] Again, will he offer me his hunger?
[Boy:] Yes!
[Girl:] And does he love me?
[Boy:] Yes.
[Girl:] Yes.
[Boy:] On a hot summer night,
would you offer your throat to the wolf with the red roses?
[Girl:] Yes.
[Boy:] I bet you say that to all the boys!
[Sung:]
It was a hot summer night
and the beach was burning.
There was fog crawling over the sand.
When I listen to your heart
I hear the whole world turning.
I see the shooting stars falling
through your trembling hands.
You were licking your lips
and your lipstick shining.
I was dying just to ask for a taste.
We were lying together in a silver lining
by the the light of the moon.
You know there's not another moment
Not another moment
Not another moment to waste.
You hold me so close that my knees grow weak.
But my soul is flying high above the ground.
I'm trying to speak but no matter what I do
I just can't seem to make any sound.
And then you took the words right out of my mouth.
Oh it must have been while you were kissing me.
You took the words right out of my mouth.
And I swear it's true,
I was just about to say I love you.
And then you took the words right out of my mouth.
Oh it must have been while you were kissing me.
You took the words right out of my mouth.
And I swear it's true,
I was just about to say I love you.
Now my body is shaking like a wave on the water
And I guess that I'm beginning to grin.
Oh we're finally alone and we can do what we want to.
The night is young
And Ain't no-one gonna know where you
No-one gonna know where you
No-one's gonna know where you've been.
You were licking your lips
and your lipstick shining.
I was dying just to ask for a taste.
We were lying together in a silver lining
by the the light of the moon.
You know there's not another moment
Not another moment
Not another moment to waste.
And then you took the words right out of my mouth.
Oh it must have been while you were kissing me.
You took the words right out of my mouth.
And I swear it's true,
I was just about to say I love you.
And then you took the words right out of my mouth.
Oh it must have been while you were kissing me.
You took the words right out of my mouth.
And I swear it's true,
I was just about to say I love you.
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Sat 8 Jul, 2006 06:44 pm
Well, listeners, here's our Try again. Love that one, buddy. Guess we got all the body parts in here tonight.
From Robbie Williams:
How lucky can one guy be?
I kissed her and she kissed me
Like the fella once said,
"Ain't that a kick in the head?"
The room was completely black,
I hugged her and she hugged back
Like the sailor said, quote,
"Ain't that a hole in the boat?"
My head keeps spinnin',
I go to sleep and keep grinnin'
If this is just the beginnin',
my life is gonna be bee-yoo-tee-ful
I've sunshine enough to spread,
it's just like the fella said
Tell me quick, ain't love a kick in the head?
Like the fella once said,
"Ain't that a kick in the head?"
Like the sailor said, quote,
"Ain't that a hole in the boat?"
My head keeps spinnin',
I go to sleep and keep grinnin'
If this is just the beginnin',
my life is gonna be bee-yoo-tee-ful
She's tellin' me we'll be wed,
she's picked out a king-size bed
I couldn't feel any better or I'd be sick
Tell me quick oh, ain't love a kick?
Tell me quick ain't love a kick in the head?
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Sun 9 Jul, 2006 04:13 am
Ed Ames
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ed Ames (born July 9, 1927) is an American popular singer and actor.
He was born Edmund Dantes Urick in Malden, Massachusetts, and along with his three brothers, Joe (born May 3, 1921), Gene (born February 13, 1923), and Vic (May 20, 1925-January 23, 1978) excelled in athletics as a child. The brothers also liked to sing, and formed a quartet, "The Urick Brothers," which sang in many clubs in the Boston area. When they wanted to go to New York, the playwright Abe Burroughs suggested the name The Ames Brothers, and under that name the group had many hits in the 1950s.
Ed left the group to pursue his own career, studying acting at the Herbert Berghoff School, and privately with Tamara Doykharhanova, Lee Strasberg, and Milton Katselas. His first starring role was in an Off-Broadway production of Arthur Miller's "The Crucible," going on to starring performances in "The Fantasticks" and "Carnival." Finally he had his biggest hit as a stage actor, in the play "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest."
Talent scouts at 20th Century Fox saw Ed in "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" and invited him to co-star in the 'Daniel Boone (TV series)'. During his five seasons on this program, he returned to singing, making such hit recordings as
"Try to Remember"
"My Cup Runneth Over"
"Who Will Answer?"
"Apologize"
"When the Snow Is on the Roses"
One of the most memorable moments of the The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson came when Ed Ames appeared on April 29, 1965. During the course of the show, Ed and Johnny were discussing tomahawk throwing, which Ed had developed as a skill for his role of Mingo on the TV show "Daniel Boone". When Ames claimed that he could hit a target from across the room, Johnny asked Ed if he could demonstrate this skill. Ed agreed, and a wood panel with a chalk outline of a cowboy was brought on to the stage. Ed proceeded to throw the tomahawk, which hit the "cowboy" in the tip of the crotch. This led to the longest sustained burst of laughter in the history of the show, and Johnny Carson's famous ad-lib, "I didn't even know you were Jewish!".
While maintaining his career, he attended UCLA, receiving his degree in theater and cinema arts, with highest honors, in 1975.
Try to Remember
Words & Music by Tom Jones & Harvey Schmidt
Recorded by Ed Ames, 1965 (#73)
From the Musical "The Fantasticks"
D Bm Em A7
Try to remember the kind of September
D Bm Em A7
When life was slow and oh, so mellow;
D Bm Em A7
Try to remember the kind of September
D Bm Em A7
When grass was green and grain was yellow;
F#m7 Bm7 Em7 A7
Try to remember the kind of September
DM7 GM7 C A7
When you were a tender and callow fellow.
D Bm Em A7 D Bm GM7 A7
Try to remember, and if you remember, then follow.
D Bm Em A7
Try to remember when life was so tender,
D Bm Em A7
That no one wept except the willow;
D Bm Em A7
Try to remember when life was so tender,
D Bm Em A7
That dreams were kept beside your pillow;
F#m7 Bm7 Em7 A7
Try to remember when life was so tender,
DM7 GM7 C A7
That love was an ember about to billow.
D Bm Em A7 D Bm GM7 A7
Try to remember, and if you remember, then follow.
D Bm Em A7
Deep in December, it's nice to remember,
D Bm Em A7
Although you know the snow will follow;
D Bm Em A7
Deep in December, it's nice to remember,
D Bm Em A7
Without a hurt the heart is hollow;
F#m7 Bm7 Em7 A7
Deep in December, it's nice to remember,
DM7 GM7 C A7
The fire of September that makes us mellow.
D Bm Em A7 D Bm GM7 Gdim D
Try to remember, and if you remember, then follow.
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Sun 9 Jul, 2006 04:16 am
Brian Dennehy
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Brian Dennehy (born July 9, 1938) is an American actor who has appeared in movies, television shows, and stage productions.
Biography
Early life
Dennehy was born in Bridgeport, Connecticut to Hannah and Edward Dennehy; he has two brothers, Michael and Edward, and is of Irish descent. Dennehy joined the United States Marines in 1959 and served until 1963.
Career
Dennehy is primarily known as a dramatic actor, including his role as the overzealous Sheriff Will Teasle in the 1982 hit movie First Blood, as Willy Loman in Arthur Miller's Death of a Salesman and in Cocoon (1985). During the 1980s, Dennehy gradually became a valuable supporting player in mainstream films and subsequently gained leading man status in the quirky thriller Best Seller where he appeared alongside James Woods to memorable effect. Brian played a role in the Gary Sinise directed farm epic Miles from Home in 1988. He gained his arthouse spurs during the same year when he starred in the Peter Greenaway movie The Belly of an Architect. Commenting upon this unusual venture, Dennehy said, "I've been in a lot of movies but this is the first film I've made."
After his TV performance as John Wayne Gacy in the chilling TV mini-series To Catch A Killer, Dennehy starred in other TV movies, including several outings as maverick cop Jack Reed. He was nominated for an Emmy Award for his 1993 performance in Murder in the Heartland. However, his huge success in 1996 playing Willy Loman indicated that he was as powerful an actor on stage as he had been in movies.
He also has acted in several comedies, including the Chris Farley/David Spade movie Tommy Boy. He is also known for his role in F/X and F/X 2. On stage, Dennehy made his Broadway debut in 1995 and in 1999 was the first male actor to be voted the Sarah Siddons Award for his work in Chicago theatre.
Personal life
In 1989, Dennehy became one of many Veteran(s) with Disputed Status when he told the New York Times that he claimed that he received shrapnel wounds in the Vietnam War. In 1993, he told Playboy that he served five years in Vietnam. However, his only overseas tour was to Okinawa, though he did play the part of Sergeant Ned T. "Frozen Chosen" Coleman in the television miniseries A Rumor of War. He apologized for his false claims in 1999.
Dennehy is currently a resident of Woodstock, Connecticut.
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Sun 9 Jul, 2006 04:18 am
Richard Roundtree
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Richard Roundtree (born July 9, 1942 in New Rochelle, New York) is an African-American actor and former male fashion model famous for portraying John Shaft in the film Shaft (1971) and in its two sequels: Shaft's Big Score in 1972, and Shaft in Africa in 1973.
He was a leading man in early 1970s Blaxploitation films. Prior to becoming an actor, he was a football player and a model.
He worked through the 1990s, although most of his later films were not well-received. Since 1990, however, he apparently was making a comeback as a cult icon. Roundtree had a part in David Fincher's critically acclaimed 1995 movie Se7en, the 2000 remake of Shaft as John Shaft's uncle, and guest-starred in several episodes of the first season of Desperate Housewives as an amoral private detective. He also starred in 1997's George of the Jungle.
Roundtree was diagnosed with breast cancer in 1993 and underwent a double mastectomy and chemotherapy for treatment of the disease.
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Sun 9 Jul, 2006 04:21 am
Dean Koontz
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Dean Ray Koontz (was born July 9, 1945 in Everett, Pennsylvania) is a prolific and best-selling fiction author known primarily for his popular suspense novels.
Dean Koontz Born: July 9, 1945
Everett, Pennsylvania
Biography
Dean Koontz grew up in desperate poverty under the tyranny of a violent alcoholic father. Despite his traumatic childhood, Koontz put himself through Shippensburg University of Pennsylvania (then known as Shippensburg State College), and in 1967 went to work as an English teacher at Mechanicsburg High School. In his spare time he wrote his first novel, Star Quest, which was published in 1968. From there he went on to write over a dozen more science fiction novels.
Koontz currently resides in Newport Beach, a city in Southern California (hence most of his novels are set in Southern California) with his wife Gerda and their dog Trixie Koontz, under whose name he published the book, Life is Good: Lessons in Joyful Living, in 2004. Trixie is also often referenced in his official newsletter "Useless News".
There is some speculation that Koontz may have had a hair transplant, as evidenced by early author photos that show a balding Koontz with a mustache, as opposed to more recent ones that show a clean-shaven Koontz with a full head of hair.
Early Writings
In the 1970s, Koontz began publishing mainstream suspense and horror fiction, under his own name as well as under several pseudonyms; Koontz has stated he used pen names after several editors convinced him that authors who switched genre fell victim to "negative crossover": alienating established fans, while simultaneously not picking up any new fans. Known pseudonyms include Deanna Dwyer, K. R. Dwyer, Aaron Wolfe, David Axton, Brian Coffey, John Hill, Leigh Nichols, Owen West, Richard Paige, and Anthony North. Currently some of those novels are sold under Koontz's real name. Some of these efforts are deliberately being kept out of print: Koontz purchased publishing rights to some of his various early works which he considered sub-par. He has often been quoted saying that he encourages fans to collect the novels and stories all they want, as long as they don't actually read them. (There are still a few novels which Koontz has suggested he may revise and reissue, at least back in the "Dean Koontz Companion" written in the mid-90's, but it seems unlikely that they will see print in the same form.) Koontz's breakthrough novel finally came in the form of Whispers in 1980. Since then, several of his books have reached #1 on the New York Times bestseller list (9 hardcover and 13 softcover).
Literary skills
Koontz is renowned for his skill at writing suspenseful page-turners. His strengths also include memorable characters, original ideas, and ability to blend horror, fantasy and humour. Koontz has been criticized for his tendency to include too many similes and therefore to drag out descriptions, his frequent use of similar plotting structures, and a tendency to moralize heavily.
Arguably, most of Koontz's work can still be classified as science fiction, as he tries to create plausible, consistent explanations for the unusual, fantastic events featured in most of his novels.
Koontz's protagonists often arm themselves with guns to combat the various monsters and madmen that they deal with, and Koontz aims to provide accurate details of the firearms. (In Writing Popular Fiction he remarked that the one sin readers of Westerns will not forgive authors is gun errors.)
The Book of Counted Sorrows
Koontz also has a very interesting way of adding his own little quirks to his novels, such as adding simple quotes from a book by the name of The Book of Counted Sorrows. Counted Sorrows was originally a hoax, like the nonexistent Keener's Manual Richard Condon cited for epigraphs he wrote himself. Eventually Koontz put together a poetry collection of that name, using all the epigraphs; it was printed as a limited edition in 2003 by Charnel House and as an eBook by Barnes & Noble. His more recent novels, starting with The Taking, have no verse by Koontz; rather, they have quotes by other authors (in particular, The Taking uses quotes from T. S. Eliot, whose works figure in the plot of the novel).
Plot staples
Dogs often figure heavily in Koontz's novels, as, due to his high allergies to felines, he is an avid dog lover. Fear Nothing, The Taking, Watchers, Dark Rivers of the Heart, and One Door Away from Heaven are prime examples. However, lately he has seen fit to include cats as characters, most notably the smart cat Mungojerrie in the Christopher Snow novels.
Koontz is also known for never recycling a character. The exceptions to date are Mike Tucker, art dealer and professional thief in "Blood Risk," "Surrounded," and "The Wall of Masks," all written under the pseudonym of Brian Coffey (these books make up the Black Bat Mystery series); Christopher Snow, the protagonist in "Fear Nothing," "Seize the Night," and the forthcoming "Ride the Storm" (these books make up the Moonlight Bay Trilogy); and Odd Thomas of "Odd Thomas," "Forever Odd," and the forthcoming "Brother Odd."
Film adaptations
Koontz is generally unhappy with most film adaptations of his books, even to the point of denying they exist in a tongue-in-cheek manor; the notable exceptions being Watchers 2 in 1990 (not really a sequel to Watchers, but actually a much better adaptation more closely following the book), Watchers 3 (1994), Watchers Reborn (1998), Haute Tension (2003), and Frankenstein (2004). Koontz himself partly contributed to the screenplays of the last two films. According to a 1996 interview, the so-called final straw occurred with the film adaptation of his book Hideaway. Koontz was so unhappy with the final cut that he had his standard contract modified to give him creative control over all subsequent films based on his books. Despite this fact, most later films over which he exercised creative control failed to garner his approval.
However, with the release of his newest novel "The Husband" in the summer of 2006 and its rights already having been optioned for the big screen, Koontz is optimistic. His confidence for this adaptation even prompted him to state, "...It now does seem as if I'll live long enough to see a first-rate film based on one of my books."
Plot formula
Some critics discern a formula that controls many of Koontz's novels. According to these critics, Koontz's plots are likely to feature most, if not all, of these elements:
a setting nearly always in Southern California
a vulnerable woman who has problems trusting men due to abusive past treatment by males
a heroic man who enables her to trust men--or at least this one man--again
a noble dog of near-human intelligence (and, sometimes, paranormal powers)
references to an imminent apocalypse
references to the non-existent Book of Counted Sorrows
a mixture of literary genres (cross-genre writing) that features horror, science fiction, romance, and other popular forms
a theme that implies that brotherly love can save one from the apparent absurdity of existence and the cruelties of life
one or more subplots that are, at first, seemingly parallel but later merge, usually as the plot's romantic element emerges
a happy ending for the main character or characters
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Sun 9 Jul, 2006 04:25 am
Courtney Love
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Courtney Michelle Love[1](born July 9, 1964) is an American rock musician and actress, best-known as the widow of Kurt Cobain (1967-1994), lead singer of the band Nirvana, and as lead singer for the now-defunct alternative rock band Hole. Rolling Stone has called her "the most controversial woman in the history of rock." Love has one daughter, Frances Bean Cobain.
Biography
Early life
Courtney Love was born in San Francisco, California as Courtney Michelle Harrison[1], the daughter of Hank Harrison and therapist Linda Carroll (née Risi). Love's mother was born to writer Paula Fox but was given up for adoption to an Italian-American couple who raised their Jewish-born daughter Catholic [2]. She recently wrote an autobiography, "Her Mother's Daughter", about her dysfunctional relationship with both biological mother and elder daughter[3]. Love spent her childhood with her mother as she wandered through four husbands and as many hippie communes in Oregon and at boarding school in Nelson, New Zealand. During a child-custody case following her parents' divorce, both Courtney's mother Linda and one of her girlfriends presented letters to the court implying her father had given a 4-year-old Courtney LSD. He denies this allegation and has passed polygraph tests; however, these allegations led to full custody being awarded to Linda Carroll.
A troubled, angry child, Love was a veteran of reform schools and juvenile halls by the time she was a teenager. She broke away from her family, emancipated at 16 and traveled around the US, United Kingdom and Ireland, living on a trust fund established for her by her mother's adoptive parents. Her first rock musician boyfriend was Rozz Rezabek (who jokingly gave her the stage name of "Courtney Love"), after a fling in Liverpool with Julian Cope, the founder of The Teardrop Explodes. In her late teens she worked in Japan, Taiwan, Guam and Alaska as a stripper, a job that she would return to at several points in her life before attaining fame. At age 22 she found herself back in Portland, Oregon, then moved to Los Angeles, California in 1987 along with the band Babes in Toyland. After being fired from the band by founding member Kat Bjelland, she took up in Los Angeles with Leaving Trains, band which she briefly married the lead singer, Falling James Moreland. Viewed by some as a social climber, she bedded and/or befriended many musicians who would later become alternative rock icons, among them Michael Stipe of R.E.M. and Billy Corgan of The Smashing Pumpkins. The last connection has a complicated history. Corgan was the last relationship prior to her marriage to Kurt Cobain. Love relates that her time with Corgan was purely sexual and that she was enticed by his love letters rather than his actual presence in the relationship. Corgan was distant and maintained relations with others, though Love remained supportive of him and his band even after the relationship ended. This was a source of contention for Cobain, as, throughout the marriage, he felt jealous and suspicious of Love's continued friendship of Corgan. Both bands were early rivals in 1990s Alternative era, and were polarized in their musical philosophy, which was another reason for antagonism. Corgan and Love still maintain a platonic friendship, and, after the death of Cobain, Corgan came to console her. These days Love says Corgan lives in a wing of her Hollywood Mansion, bought with money from selling a quarter of the Nirvana catalogue. Corgan is producing her album in works as well as the new album for his band.
Musical career and marriage
Love began her professional music career with a brief stint as the lead singer of Faith No More in the early 1980s. She was kicked out of the band for being overly controlling shortly after. About this time she also played in an all-female pop-rock band called Sugar Baby Doll with Kat Bjelland and Jennifer Finch. None of their Bangles-influenced material has ever been released. Love had more early success as an actress, appearing as the best friend of Nancy Spungen in Alex Cox's Sid Vicious biopic Sid and Nancy in 1986, and in Cox's Straight to Hell in 1987, as well as some small roles on television episodes.
Returning to music in her adopted hometown of Minneapolis, Minnesota, Love claims she co-founded Babes in Toyland with Kat Bjelland, but this is denied by others; either way, acrimony between Love and Bjelland led to Love's quick exit from the band. The band's biographer claims she stole house receipts to attend a Butthole Surfers concert.
In 1989 Love formed her own band, Hole. Hole released several singles on the Long Beach, California independent label Sympathy for the Record Industry. The band's abrasive debut Pretty on the Inside was released in early 1991 on Caroline Records and was produced by Sonic Youth's Kim Gordon. It sold well for an independent release and received ecstatic reviews in the influential British alternative music press.
Cobain and Love are married in HawaiiLove met her future husband Kurt Cobain at a concert in 1989; they began dating around 1991 and, a few days after the conclusion of Nirvana's Australian tour, on February 24, 1992, Love and Cobain were married on Waikiki Beach, Hawaii. On August 18 of that year, the couple's daughter, Frances Bean Cobain, was born.
Unpopular with some Nirvana fans (comparisons to Yoko Ono were made early on and persist to this day), Love's image was further tarnished by a 1992 article in Vanity Fair entitled "Strange Love", in which it was alleged that she had continued using heroin in the early stages of pregnancy. As a result, Child Welfare Services briefly investigated the Cobains' fitness as parents, removing Frances Bean from their custody for a short period. Love claims to this day that she was misquoted, saying she had told author Lynn Hirschberg that she had stopped using it once she learned she was pregnant.
Similarly to Axl Rose, she was often ridiculed in the press for her abrasive behaviour, such as cursing at paparazzi and publicly harassing Cobain's former girlfriend, folksinger Mary Lou Lord.
Four days before the release of Hole's breakthrough album Live Through This on April 12, 1994, Kurt Cobain was found dead from an apparent self-inflicted shotgun wound to the head at their home in Washington (though the manner of his death has been disputed by some and conspiracies theories abound.) Love read his suicide note (via a tape-recorded message) to assembled, mourning fans at a memorial service in Seattle a few days later. Clearly crying, she interrupted the note frequently to express her anger and sorrow ("Kurt, the worst crime I can think of is for you to just continue being a rock star when you ******* hate it, just ******* stop"), even inciting the crowd to call him an "asshole" for leaving everyone behind. On the audio recording that day you can hear the crowd obey. Finally, Love implored Nirvana fans not to listen to Cobain's infamous final words, "It's better to burn out than fade away" (which he cited from Neil Young's 'Hey Hey, My My').
On June 16th, just two months after Cobain's death, Hole bassist Kristen Pfaff was found dead of an apparent drug overdose. The band's vacant bass spot was filled by 21-year-old Canadian bassist Melissa Auf Der Maur later that year.
Life after Cobain
Love received considerable acclaim for her role as Larry Flynt's wife, Althea, in Milo Forman's 1996 film The People vs. Larry Flynt, opposite Woody Harrelson as Flynt, and received a Golden Globe nomination for Best Actress. She was also praised for her supporting role in the 1998 Andy Kaufman biopic Man on the Moon, which starred Jim Carrey as Kaufman. Other notable film credits include Basquiat, 200 Cigarettes, and Feeling Minnesota.
In 1998, four years after their second album, Hole released Celebrity Skin. Rolling Stone gave the album four stars, saying "the album teems with sonic knockouts that make you see all sorts of stars. It's accessible, fiery and intimate - often at the same time. Here is a basic guitar record that's anything but basic."[4] Celebrity Skin went on to go multiplatinum, and topped Best Of Year lists at Spin magazine, the Village Voice, and other periodicals.[5] Erlandson was still the lead guitarist, and now there were Melissa Auf Der Maur's backup vocals, but drummer Patty Schemel was replaced by a session drummer during the recording. There have been conflicting reports from the band members over whether this was due to drug problems or enmity between Schemel and the album's producer, Michael Beinhorn.
With Hole having fallen into disarray, Love attempted to begin a "punk rock femme supergroup" called Bastard during summer/autumn of 2001, though this project never reached fruition. Hole broke up that year amid continuing litigation. In October 2001, Love performed in some solo shows as an opening act, but just almost three years later she released her first album, America's Sweetheart, which became a big flop on charts although well liked by critics.
She is set to release her sophomore solo album, How Dirty Girls Get Clean, and the memoir book Dirty Blonde in late 2006.
Controversy
Since Cobain's death, conspiracy theories have circulated, alleging that he was in fact murdered at Love's instigation. This theory gained the most media attention with the release of Nick Broomfield's documentary Kurt & Courtney in 1998, which featured interviews with, among others, Love's father (who accused her of being a psychopath) and private investigator Tom Grant, who said they believed Love ordered her husband murdered, and punk singer El Duce, who claimed that Love offered him $50,000 to kill Cobain. Most of the various conspiracy theories are cogently appraised in the book "Love & Death: The Murder of Kurt Cobain" which is written by Max Wallace and Ian Halperin.
Love has been a strong critic of the music industry, especially the RIAA. In 2000, she publicly announced her admiration for Napster which, at the time, was being accused of fostering illegal file-sharing.[6] She became known for her criticism of unfair record contracts and mistreatment of artists.
Conflicting news stories began to appear in August of 2003 regarding Love's family tree, some of them remarking that Love's mother, Linda Carroll, had taken DNA tests revealing her father to be Marlon Brando, and that these facts would appear in Carroll's then-forthcoming memoir. Later that month, however, a spokeswoman for Carroll's publisher, Doubleday, told the New York Daily News, "There was nothing in Linda Carroll's book proposal about Marlon Brando, nor will there be anything in the book about him. I've spoken to her and she has told me that there is no truth to the suggestion that she is related to Marlon Brando." The story bears a significant possibility of truth: Carroll's mother Paula Fox did, by most accounts, have an affair with Brando, but since that time the truth has yet to be confirmed by law or any of the parties involved. [7] [8]
Cover of the March 2003 edition of Q magazine, in which Courtney Love posed nudeIn 2003, Love pleaded not guilty to felony drug charges related to possession of painkillers. In February of 2004, an arrest warrant was issued for Love after she failed to appear at a preliminary hearing; the warrant was subsequently rescinded when she appeared in court on February 18. She released her first solo album, America's Sweetheart, just eight days earlier, on February 10.
Early on the morning of March 19, 2004 Love was arrested in New York City for allegedly throwing a microphone stand and hitting a man on the head. Earlier in the night, she appeared on The Late Show with David Letterman, stepped up on the talk show host's desk saying "oh, Drew [Barrymore], you've had it," and flashed her breasts at Letterman.
On her fortieth birthday, July 9, 2004, she missed a scheduled court appearance relating to an attempted break-in at a boyfriend's house and was found in contempt of court. Her attorney later said she missed the appearance due to medical problems; later in the month she appeared in court and was sentenced to an 18-month probation and drug rehabilitation program.
In January of 2005, Love regained the custody of her daughter that she'd lost in October of 2003, after completing a state-enforced rehabilitation program and enduring a probational period. Child welfare authorities alluded to drug addiction when responding to the press on the matter, though they didn't comment directly. [9] [10]
On August 19, 2005, Love admitted using drugs in violation of her probation terms. She was ordered into a 28-day drug treatment program by a judge who initially said "my belief was that you need to go to the county jail." This program was also violated, and on September 21 she was sentenced to 6 months in lock down rehab. [11]
In August 2005, tabloid papers such as News of the World began reporting that Love became pregnant during an affair with British actor and comedian Steve Coogan. Coogan's spokeswoman, alongside Love's publicists, have discredited the story as "nonsense." [12]
Life After Rehab
After her release from house arrest, Love issued this statement: "I would just like to thank the court for allowing me these ninety days . . . [It] helped me deal with a very gnarly drug problem, which is behind me . . . I've just been playing guitar and taking care of my daughter. I want to [take this opportunity] to let the community know I'm doing great...I've been really inspired and have remained inspired."[13]
Love is currently recording her second solo LP, tentatively titled How Dirty Girls Get Clean. She began writing the new material during her stay in rehab; "make no mistake, I've written these songs by myself. It's great to have good musicians, but this is me and a guitar." Song titles include 'How Dirty Girls Get Clean', 'Sunset Marquis', and the anti-cocaine rant 'Loser Dust', among others. Those who have heard the songs say that they sound "gritty--very Janis Joplin. They are amazing". [13]
Linda Perry has expressed interest in producing the record, and has told the media that her dedication is to "bring back the queen of rock and roll, and that's Courtney Love". Perry said of Love's post rehab progress: "[she] looks great, sounds great, [has] really great ideas [and] great songs that she's written. My job now is to make that [Courtney Love] rock and roll record that everybody's gonna love." Billy Corgan helped Love on songwriting during the messy time right after America's Sweetheart release, and some of the songs written on that period may be used on the record. He is also on charge of producing the project.
On May 1st, Love officially returned to stage, playing at the Gay and Lesbian Community Centre benefit at the Henry Fonda Theatre in Los Angeles. With the support of Corgan and Perry, she performed two of the new songs acoustically: 'Sunset Marquis' and 'Pacific Coast Highway'.[14]
Courtney told NME that Moby would have a hand in producing the album while Linda Perry is busy with Joss Stone. She described the four-day recording session she had planned with him as: "In Utero style - lo-fi, no pro-tools, all old gear". This has brought relief to many fans who considered her previous effort America's Sweetheart over-produced. After showing NME some of the demos (some on CD, some in an intimate acoustic performance), they showed great enthusiasm for the new material, stating that it was "all brilliant". [15]
Moby later claimed that he isn't working on the record, just talked with Courtney about the project and declined. The main producing is still being done by Love, Perry and Billy Corgan. The Smashing Pumpkins' leader is even living on a wing of the singer's new Hollywood Hills mansion since February, for a bigger help on the recording sessions[16]. Rick Rubin is also said to be attached to the project.
Love is about to sign Linda Perry's label, Custard Music, for the release, and Universal Music -- company which Hole has been on a legal battle a few years ago for getting out of contract -- may be the worldwide distributor of the album. Love declared "not holding any grudges about it". Some of the new lyrics, like the title-track and 'Sunset Marquis', plus excerpts from 'Sad But True' and 'Stand Up ************', recently leaked in Internet, but there's no evidence of audio archives available for listening or download.
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Sun 9 Jul, 2006 04:27 am
The Urinal Is Too High
A group of 3rd, 4th and 5th graders, accompanied by two female teachers, went on a field trip to the local racetrack (Churchill Downs) to learn about thoroughbred horses and the supporting industry (Bourbon), but mostly to see the horses.
When it was time to take the children to the bath room it was decided that the girls would go with one teacher and the boys would go with the other. The teacher assigned to the boys was waiting outside the men's room when one of the boys came out and told her that none of them could reach the urinal.
Having no choice, she went inside, helped the boys with their pants, and began hoisting the little boys up one by one holding onto their "wee wees" to direct the flow.
As she lifted one, s he couldn't help but notice that he was unusually well endowed. Trying not to show that she was staring, the teacher said, "You must be in the 5th grade."
"No, ma'am, " he replied. "I'm the jockey riding Silver Arrow in the seventh
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Letty
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Sun 9 Jul, 2006 05:15 am
Good morning, WA2K radio fans and contributors. As the sun slowly rises over the ocean and casts slivers of rays through our studio blinds, I am thinking how glad it is to see our hawkman back with us.
My goodness, Bob, that was a wonderful story about the jockey. Loved it. I think we know most of your celebs, but I was really surprised about Richard Roundtree, although I was well aware of the fact that men can get breast cancer, I had no idea that he was a victim.
Strange, folks, that I should use the word "sliver" as that is the title of one of Nirvana's songs and Kurt Cobain was the lead singer.
NIRVANA Song Lyrics
Sliver
(From the album "FROM THE MUDDY BANKS OF WISHKAH")
Album: Incesticide, Wishkah
Mom and dad went to a show
they dropped me off at Grandpa Joe's
I kicked and screamed, said please, oh no
Grandma take me home
I wanna be alone
Had to eat my dinner there
Mashed potatos and stuff like that
I couldn't chew my meats too good
She said, well, don't you start your crying
Go outside and ride your bike
thats what I did, I killed my toad
after dinner, I had ice cream
fell asleep, and watched TV
woke up in my mother's arms
Grandma take me home
I wanna be alone.
What an odd song, no?
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dyslexia
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Sun 9 Jul, 2006 06:43 am
All the tired horses in the sun
How'm I supposed to get any ridin' done? Hmm.
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edgarblythe
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Sun 9 Jul, 2006 06:49 am
Che
Words and Music by Judy Collins
One morning in Bolivia
The leader of the partisans and two of his companions
Were forced to flee the mountains for their lives
Through green and dusty villages they sped along the little roads
The peasants smiled and shouted as they hurried by
Jesus called out to every one "Don't think that we are leaving,
They only tried to frighten us with guns, we shall return,"
Continue with your work, continue with your talk
You have it in your hand to own your life to own your land
The people smiled and shouted and they ran along a little while
The stood and watched, their hands were restless and empty
The body of Jesus was in the jeep that they blew up
Before it reach the plane
The priest was proud to bless himfor what there was
of him remaining in the afternoon
Continue with your work, continue with your talk
You have it in your hands to own your life to own your land
There is no one who can show you the road you should be on
They only tell you they can show you and then tomorrow they are gone
The smell of oil and incense fill the room in this adobe hut
Where on the table lies the body of a man
His face is pale and young, his beard is dark and curled
Pennies hold his eyelids from the evening light
People from the village those who knew him, those who killed him
Stand inside the door, their hands are restless and empty
They watch the priest make silent crosses in the air
And pray to God inside their hearts for their own souls
Continue with your work, continue with your talk
You have it in your hands to own your life to own your land
There is no one who can show you the road you should be on
They only tell you they can show you and then tomorrow they are gone
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Letty
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Sun 9 Jul, 2006 07:24 am
dys, perhaps if those tired horses could be led to the barn? <smile>
Wow! edgar. Judy Collins knows how to allude as well. Just reading those lyrics is enough to give us insight into Che, especially today.
Someone once told me that life was not a song, then another said that it was. Just who are we to believe, listeners?
Perhaps Longfellow:
What the heart of the young man said to the psalmist
Tell me not, in mournful numbers,
Life is but an empty dream!--
For the soul is dead that slumbers,
And things are not what they seem.
Life is real! Life is earnest!
And the grave is not its goal;
Dust thou art, to dust returnest,
Was not spoken of the soul.
Not enjoyment, and not sorrow,
Is our destined end or way;
But to act, that each to-morrow
Find us farther than to-day.
Art is long, and Time is fleeting,
And our hearts, though stout and brave,
Still, like muffled drums, are beating
Funeral marches to the grave.
In the world's broad field of battle,
In the bivouac of Life,
Be not like dumb, driven cattle!
Be a hero in the strife!
Trust no future, howe'er pleasant!
Let the dead Past bury its dead!
Act,--act in the living present!
Heart within, and God o'erhead!
Lives of great men all remind us
We can make our lives sublime,
And departing, leave behind us
Footprints on the sands of time;
Footprints, that perhaps another,
Sailing o'er life's solemn main,
A forlorn and shipwrecked brother,
Seeing, shall take heart again.
Let us, then, be up and doing,
With a heart for any fate;
Still achieving, still pursuing,
Learn to labor and to wait.