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Margaret Keane - Value of Painting

 
 
Reply Fri 19 May, 2017 12:10 pm
Hi -

I have an original Margaret Keane painting (1983). It is ~ 4 ft by 3 ft I'm guessing... (could be bigger but not at home). It's a close up of a white puppy with curly hair. Either a Bishan or mini-poodle. The dog has a red collar. The whole picture is of the dogs face.

Can someone help me get a range park value of this picture? I can't find anything online! I'm curious to know if it's worth 1K or 10k+ - I'm clueless!

Thank you in advance!
 
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Fri 19 May, 2017 12:54 pm
@snowkid62,
Let me be the first person to dissuade you of a2k's alleged ability to suss out the value of art works.

Don't bother. We don't have anyone who is a professional appraiser of art, let alone someone who will appraise a work (UNSEEN) for free.

Take a digital image of the work and send it to ...
Barnebys. It's a legitimate branch from the Southeby's Auction House. So, their attention and appraisal is authentic.

ossobucotemp
 
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Reply Fri 19 May, 2017 06:52 pm
@tsarstepan,
That may be true, day to day, but we have had experts/appraise able before and will again.
We have at least a few that are value smart. I'm not among them, but I don't like you shutting the door. A lot of those with middling interest could help someone flailing with a piece of work, or at least suggest a site that could help.
I'm not against Barnebys, for it.

Plus, a lot of people who post on this thread just want to know what was the background history of an art work, or want help on what was it meaning, or the painter/author. Not all are seeking to have bought a piece at Goodwill and earn a zillion - some proportion of our posters are interested in the art. Sometimes that will, naturally, mix.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Fri 19 May, 2017 06:55 pm
@ossobucotemp,
ossobucotemp wrote:

Not all are seeking to have bought a piece at Goodwill and earn a zillion - some proportion of our posters are interested in the art.

Where in the following OP sentiment says otherwise?

snowkid62 wrote:

I'm curious to know if it's worth 1K or 10k+ - I'm clueless!
ossobucotemp
 
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Reply Fri 19 May, 2017 07:09 pm
@tsarstepan,
That person is seemingly solely interested in value, but that is no reason to slam a2k as a place to help. People can ask questions, re if something may be a print, and so on.
I will agree that when the sometime in future a2k shows up, there could be paragraphs more of warning to read.

Me, I hated Keene paintings. The real paintings may be worth something, and you are right, if it is an actual painting, it should be investigated by the experts.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 20 May, 2017 01:04 am
@ossobucotemp,
The legal war between her and her ex husband (While he was still alive)over those "big eyed alien kid" paintings was something I found interesting. Its like the work of Cy Twombly or Thomas Kinkade.
"You can never go broke betting on peoples taste.
I found all their paintings disturbing and rather creepy.
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emmett grogan
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jul, 2017 09:16 pm
@tsarstepan,
I know the difference between commodity paintings and good art.

I have a degree in art history as well as fine art and I teach oil painting privately.

I'm very good at pricing art under $1K and I leave pricing more expensive art to the galleries and auction houses.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jul, 2017 04:53 am
@emmett grogan,
art markets go up and down like any collectible. Only really number one top of the heap artist works continue to appreciate.
Keene is of the Thomas Kinkade ilk. She may have already "topped out" in auction value. (PS, the best way to self appraise is to go where you can review recently reported auction values in some subscription art line, like ASKart. I used to be part of a plein air group in which we subscribed to a monthly subscription in hich we would be able to review most recent auction prices of artists who interested us and we had opportunities to join in on an auction.

I agree with osso, valuations over the net are kinda useless and not worth anything. Besides the artist you must consider the artists prime venue (The Keenes were mostly noted for those creepy alien kids and creepy eyed animals were a distant runner up). Also, theres size, condition framing etc etc.

If ya go to an appraiser, make sure they understand that they cannot offer to buy it .(That's a self dealing misdemeanor in many states now)
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jul, 2017 04:55 am
@emmett grogan,
Quote:
I know the difference between commodity paintings and good art.


Like the barber who cut his own hair eh?
emmett grogan
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jul, 2017 05:42 pm
@farmerman,
Never claimed to be good painter, but I do know the mechanics of making a painting. I do know what makes a painting worth something. I know how to research a painting. I know when the a painting needs to go to a professional for valuation. In my case anything over $2k. I'm very comfortable with 90% of what shows up here so far.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jul, 2017 07:28 pm
@emmett grogan,
knowing how we make a painting I believe has No impact on its ultimate marketability. Think Jackson Pollock. He dribbled house paint and thinned oils to make his works. The outcpmes of color , pattern, are often like something youd see going of in your head during a good hit of something strong.

emmett grogan
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jul, 2017 09:16 pm
@farmerman,
And I believe that putting a painting together correctly has quite an impact on the value of a painting. Mainly because it does.
ossobucotemp
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jul, 2017 09:48 pm
@emmett grogan,
Um.
I took thirty quarter classes in drawing and painting; I think my best (to me) painting was done within an hour in one of my later painting classes. I've had two art galleries, one in 1974 and another that design partner and I started that has lasted, even now. I bailed as I had financial stuff, but the gallery is still up and running. I would recommend it, but we don't do promotion on a2k.

We sold a lot back then, and some of those were paintings by me. Touch and go, to have a gallery.

I have to exclaim that I am not interested in your "putting a painting together correctly" concept.
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 1 Aug, 2017 09:36 am
@ossobucotemp,
when asked how did you sculpt such a beautiful child in marble, a local sculptor ,Charles Parks , once said, Well, all you do is tke a block of marble and cut awy verthing that doesn't look like a child.

That's how I look at "Properly constructing art"

The rules I recall from Baziotes oil pqinting class when I was a kid were
1Left to right

2Dark to light

3Never use black or 'Outta the tube" white.


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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 1 Aug, 2017 10:37 am
This is a Margaret Keane painting on Etsy,

https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/487934306/mid-century-painting-on-wood-panel-by?&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_uk_en_gb_a-art_and_collectibles-other&utm_custom1=ce1eb8c7-f42c-4eeb-83bd-3e34ed5c97cb&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIlLGWgLu21QIVDsayCh121ArZEAkYBCABEgKocPD_BwE

They want £15,678.90 for it, but that's no guarantee they'll actually find someone willing to pay that sort of money. I've been watching a painting on ebay by an artist whose work I've got. It's been sat there for the last three years, although the asking price has dropped a bit.
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 1 Aug, 2017 12:39 pm
@izzythepush,
paintings, like any collectible, has a perceived value that is only realized by a calculated mean range based on RECENT sales of the same artists work.

Ive seen, in my life, work of Leyendecker and Rockwell both begin tanking. However, over recent yeqr the story telling ability of Rockwell has been noted and his work has skyrocketed. The NYT , yesterday (MON) did and article of how specific contemporary artists have managed their own careers and have benefited mightily from that choice. Guys like Mark Grotjahn or Jeff Koons have realized prices for their individual works in the TENS OF MILLIONS of dollars. Grotjahns rule breaking involves things like never become a Picasso where you start getting known for just one style of painting.
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