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Does the Mormon God Exist?

 
 
Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2017 02:04 pm
Does the Mormon God Exist?

Mormons believe that Almighty God is an exalted humanoid man from a planet out somewhere in the universe, and their God is often painted by them as a very healthy looking 55 year old standing next to a younger handsome man of about 33 , which is his son.

My problem with this is if God is indeed a physical man of flesh and bone, who the heck created the entire universe?

What do you think?
 
maxdancona
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2017 02:41 pm
@Alan McDougall,
How is your view of the Mormon view of God different than your view of any other view of God?

Most Christians have an anthropomorphized view of God. The Bible, starting with the creation story, involves a human-like God who speaks, interacts with others, has feelings, feels jealous and gets angry. When God "saw" that what He created was good (as the Bible say) it implies that God has some sort of physical eyes. Traditional Christians have often portrayed God as an old man with his Son (Jesus) seated at His side.

I hope you have something more to say than just attacking Mormons. There aren't many things that are more hypocritical than Christians attacking other Christians.

Whether this God exists or not is a matter for your own faith. The Christian faith involves believing certain things that from the outside seem awfully ridiculous. If your faith involves believing some pretty ridiculous sounding things... you might think twice before attacking someone else's faith.
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2017 05:46 pm
@Alan McDougall,
The Gods of the LDS church arent any more ridiculous or funny than the gods of any other cult (like Roman Catholicism , Southern Baptists, Dukhabours, Hutterites, Animists, Hindus or Jews and Muslims).
Its all a man-made buncha crap to keep huge bunches of people quiet and captive under a sacred thumb.
Some places use govt regimes, others use Sacred Regimes.
chai2
 
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Reply Fri 7 Apr, 2017 11:47 pm
@farmerman,
I worked with a Mormon woman, we were pretty friendly.

I loved calling her house. I'd ask her husband Gary "Is your wife home?"

He'd always reply, "Which one?"
saab
 
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Reply Sat 8 Apr, 2017 01:08 am
The Christians believe in on one God and the trinity.
The Mormons believe in three gods united in one God.
That is one reason that they by many Christian theologians and denominations are not considered Christians.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sat 8 Apr, 2017 01:09 am
@Alan McDougall,
Alan McDougall wrote:
Does the Mormon God Exist?

Does the god of the Bible exist?

Their conception of God is derived from Joseph Smith's decidedly unique reading and interpretation of the Bible and these as he applied them to the Book of Mormon. For them, God is Elohim, the Father. His son is Yahweh who was embodied as Jesus Christ.

Elohim isn't from Kolob, the planet/star to which you refer. Joseph Smith refers to Kolob as the heavenly body "nearest unto the throne of God."
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 8 Apr, 2017 06:55 am
@saab,
The Mormons aren't the only non-trinitarian Christian denomination.

Emo Phillips explains it best.



ekename
 
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Reply Sat 8 Apr, 2017 07:29 am
@Alan McDougall,
All gods exist in the minds of believers, but evidence on the ground of any god of the tens of thousands of them is scant to say the least.

You know that, you believe, mystery solved, or not as the case may be.





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Alan McDougall
 
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Reply Sat 8 Apr, 2017 01:21 pm
@maxdancona,
If what the Mormons claim that God is an exalted man of flesh and bone, then he has a sex organ, heart, lungs. brain etc to function.

Then this god is a created being!

Logically then the Mormon God simply cannot be the transcendent Creator of all existence
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 8 Apr, 2017 07:33 pm
@Alan McDougall,
God doesnt have a sex organ? How is He a father (he has a "begotten son")?

Or is God not a male?
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 9 Apr, 2017 05:06 am
@farmerman,
I guess I was wr wr wr wrong. This i apparently more a "my god i waaay cooler than your god. My god doesnt need a wee wee".
His only begotten son was apparently delivered by simple mitotic division".

Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sun 9 Apr, 2017 08:34 am
@Alan McDougall,
I suppose it "inxists" in some group. What about it?
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Alan McDougall
 
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Reply Mon 10 Apr, 2017 03:25 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

How is your view of the Mormon view of God different than your view of any other view of God?

Most Christians have an anthropomorphized view of God. The Bible, starting with the creation story, involves a human-like God who speaks, interacts with others, has feelings, feels jealous and gets angry. When God "saw" that what He created was good (as the Bible say) it implies that God has some sort of physical eyes. Traditional Christians have often portrayed God as an old man with his Son (Jesus) seated at His side.

I hope you have something more to say than just attacking Mormons. There aren't many things that are more hypocritical than Christians attacking other Christians.

Whether this God exists or not is a matter for your own faith. The Christian faith involves believing certain things that from the outside seem awfully ridiculous. If your faith involves believing some pretty ridiculous sounding things... you might think twice before attacking someone else's faith.


I do not consider Mormons Christians they preach another Jesus and Another God who is not Almighty like my understanding of who God is in reality.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 10 Apr, 2017 03:36 pm
@Alan McDougall,
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I do not consider Mormons Christians


Of course you don't. Judging others is one of the most important parts of being a Christian, this is why the Christian world is so divided and so contentious. Jesus wanted it this way, he prayed that that people will tell who the real Christians by how they reject each other (see John 17).

Never accept people who disagree with your understanding who God is. By doing this, you might have to accept that you don't own God for yourself.

This is the reason that we have White churches who support police, and Black churches who call for rights of black youth, and conservative churches who want to deport the families being protected by Hispanic churches. The Catholic Churches and Protestant churches in Europe only recently stopped bombing each other.

All this divisiveness and strife brings glory to God and serves as a proof to the power of the gospel.

farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 10 Apr, 2017 05:52 pm
@maxdancona,
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Judging others is one of the most important parts of being a Christian, this is why the Christian world is so divided and so contentious.
EXCELLENT!!,Just In case it didnt properly sink into his skull when you posted it.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 10 Apr, 2017 06:01 pm
@farmerman,
As a kid raised Catholic and expected to die for my faith (yeh right), I discovered that everybody hted Catholics because "we werent tru Christian". Every time I went to visit my dads mom in Allentown Pa, i got beat up by couple of kids who were "real Christian" -ie LUTHERAN. After many pummeling s I became a student of 2X4 "fu" nd sent one of the kids to the hospital. I ws punished and grounded until my uncle Stash stood up for me qnd explained that I was being beat up "for standing up for my faith"(Uncle Stash was more fulla **** than cesspool), but my mom bought it (my Dad was still in the Army at the time.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 10 Apr, 2017 07:17 pm
@farmerman,
I went to a fundamentalist Baptist church (actually half-Baptist but that is another story). There was a discussion about whether Catholics could go to heaven. I think the general opinion was that they couldn't.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 10 Apr, 2017 08:25 pm
@maxdancona,
whenever sister attila would adress us with the proposal for us to get to heaven without ever passing "Go" was if we would die for Christ.

Thats when I learnt about 2 by "fu". I liked general pattons observation that was , to wit;
"It aint youre fuckin job to die for your country. Its your job to make sure the other guy dies for his fuckin country"
Alan McDougall
 
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Reply Mon 10 Apr, 2017 08:54 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

How is your view of the Mormon view of God different than your view of any other view of God?

Most Christians have an anthropomorphized view of God. The Bible, starting with the creation story, involves a human-like God who speaks, interacts with others, has feelings, feels jealous and gets angry. When God "saw" that what He created was good (as the Bible say) it implies that God has some sort of physical eyes. Traditional Christians have often portrayed God as an old man with his Son (Jesus) seated at His side.

I hope you have something more to say than just attacking Mormons. There aren't many things that are more hypocritical than Christians attacking other Christians.

Whether this God exists or not is a matter for your own faith. The Christian faith involves believing certain things that from the outside seem awfully ridiculous. If your faith involves believing some pretty ridiculous sounding things... you might think twice before attacking someone else's faith.


The Bible says that God is light, that God is not a man, that you cannot look at God and live, that God is love. that God created the heavens and the earth, that God is a spirit etc etc. The Mormon God does not have one of these attributes?
Alan McDougall
 
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Reply Mon 10 Apr, 2017 08:56 pm
@chai2,
chai2 wrote:

I worked with a Mormon woman, we were pretty friendly.

I loved calling her house. I'd ask her husband Gary "Is your wife home?"

He'd always reply, "Which one?"


That is not funny no matter who says it.
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