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Study: 100,000 Iraqis died in war, aftermath

 
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 03:40 pm
(From MSNBC - reporting from a study conducted by researchers at Johns Hopkins University, Columbia University and the Al-Mustansiriya University in Baghdad, and about to be published in The Lancet: Full story here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6354133/ )

Study: 100,000 Iraqis died in war, aftermath
Science journal say coalition caused majority of violent deaths
The Associated Press
Updated: 11:48 a.m. ET Oct. 28, 2004 LONDON - A survey of deaths in Iraqi households estimates that as many as 100,000 more people may have died throughout the country in the 18 months after the U.S. invasion than would be expected based on the death rate before the war.


There is no official figure for the number of Iraqis killed since the conflict began, but some non-governmental estimates range from 10,000 to 30,000. As of Wednesday, 1,081 U.S. servicemen had been killed, according to the U.S. Defense Department.

The researchers of The Lancet report concede that the data they based their projections on were of 'limited precision,' because the quality of the information depends on the accuracy of the household interviews used for the study. The interviewers were Iraqi, most of them doctors.

The study, conducted by researchers at Johns Hopkins University, Columbia University and the Al-Mustansiriya University in Baghdad, is being published Thursday on the Web site of The Lancet medical journal.

The survey indicated violence accounted for most of the extra deaths seen since the invasion, and air strikes from coalition forces caused most of the violent deaths, the researchers wrote in the British-based journal.

'Most individuals reportedly killed by coalition forces were women and children,' they said.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 04:19 pm
This is only an excerpt from a much longer - and interesting - article.
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panzade
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 04:44 pm
I was gonna post it but it disappeared from Yahoo...pretty shocking. 1/10 of a million...hmmm...wait a minute. I bet there's 10,000 terrorists in that pile of bodies...yes just collateral casualties I'm afraid.
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littlek
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 05:02 pm
yikes!
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sobriquet
 
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Reply Fri 29 Oct, 2004 12:38 am
i've always used this site as a source for that.

http://www.iraqbodycount.net/database/

they only add to the tally when they have information from multiple credible sources. their estimate ranges from <b>14,160-16,289</b>
there's an incident by incident breakdown for you to see on there.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Tue 7 Dec, 2004 08:00 pm
From the BBC: Full story http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/4076993.stm

Hold Iraq death probe, Blair told

The Lancet claimed Iraqis are now 58 times more likely to die a violent death
Forty-six eminent figures including military men, ex-diplomats and bishops have written to Tony Blair urging a inquiry into civilian deaths in Iraq.
The letter comes after medical journal the Lancet published a study suggesting nearly 100,000 died since March 2003.

The study by US and Iraqi researchers suggested the risk of violent death was higher after the war than before.

Names on the letter include retired General Sir Hugh Beech, the Bishop of Coventry, and an ex-ambassador to Iraq.

It also includes the former assistant chief of the defence staff Lord Garden and writer Harold Pinter.

Independent inquiry?

UK ministers have rejected the Lancet figures but offered no alternative estimate of their own.

The signatories urge the prime minister to set up an independent inquiry to establish just how many people have been killed or injured in Iraq along with reasons for the casualties.

Having made no effort to count Iraqi casualties at all, the British Government now says that reliable figures are not available



Text of letter to Tony Blair
They wrote: "As you know, your government is obliged under international humanitarian law to protect the civilian population during military operations in Iraq, and you have consistently promised to do so.

"However, without counting the dead and injured, no-one can know whether Britain and its coalition partners are meeting these obligations.".........
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dlowan
 
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Reply Tue 7 Dec, 2004 08:01 pm
sobriquet wrote:
i've always used this site as a source for that.

http://www.iraqbodycount.net/database/

they only add to the tally when they have information from multiple credible sources. their estimate ranges from <b>14,160-16,289</b>
there's an incident by incident breakdown for you to see on there.


Thank you, Sobriquet.
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J-B
 
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Reply Thu 9 Dec, 2004 07:22 am
who, how, when how much to pay back for these innocent people's lives?
Is the security and democracy which is claimed by Bush really worth these?
Sorry, I doubt it Confused
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