NHL 2004-05: Did you miss it?

JP

I checked out that site. Those guy's look to young for me, what's the-- BIG IDEA!-- <snickers>

I'm going to have to re-think this situation.

Thanks for the site

paula j,
allow me to tell you what i know:


Jacques "Boom-Boom" Beukeboom
age 72, he hails from winnipeg, manitoba.

for 8 straight seasons (1955-56 thru 1963-64) he led the league in both fewest goals scored, and most penalty minutes.

his favorite thing to do is "get loaded right after the game, sometimes before the game, but never during, that would be wrong."
his favorite color is (blood) red.
his favorite move is "slap shot".

there's more, but by now you're most likely swooning with lust for this hunka-hunka burning love...

It shows

2006???
NHL veterans say season lost, maybe two

NHL veterans Chris Pronger and Jim McKenzie think this lockout is far worse than the one that wiped out half a season 10 years ago.

They don't think they'll be playing again until 2006 ?- if then.

"I think you're looking at, at the very earliest, January '06 for the start of a season," said McKenzie, a forward with the Nashville Predators.

Pronger, a St. Louis Blues defenseman, is just as pessimistic.

"Probably December of '05 and going into January '06 we're going to be in the same position we are in now, trying to come to a resolution," he said.

"It's very disheartening. The majority of the players that I've talked to are worried about the fact that if there is no season, how is the league going to be able to recover?" Pronger said. "I hear (Commissioner) Gary (Bettman) talk and say ?'Oh, we'll be able to recover.' He doesn't know."

McKenzie thinks the league is trying to divide the union by trying to woo the 349 players who make $800,000 or less by not touching their salaries and proposing to take 35 percent away from the players with the biggest contracts..

"I'm surprised they didn't try it sooner. They're like ?'Don't worry about it. You're going to get your money,'" McKenzie said. "In the end we're all going to end up losing on this anyway.

"The first thing I thought of, because I played in New Jersey, is Scott Stevens, Scott Niedermayer and Marty Brodeur, it's kind of like saying ?'Hey, thanks for winning that Cup and getting my name on it. I'm going to throw you under the bus now.'"

(source)

I hate this lockout. Players went to Europe, the NHL better resolve this.

If Gary Bettman dosen't get this "salary cap" then he would have wasted all this invested time he has had here in the NHL and he will have leave his high horse with disgrace. That is why he is fighting this one till the bitter end. He won't get it and then the league will recover again after he has left the NHL for good. No offense here to any americans but when you take a canadian game and give all the power to an american man who has nothing but dollar signs on his mind going into his pockets and the already rich owners this is what happens to the greatest game ever. Get rid of the rich bastard and bring the game back cause not having Ron Mclean and DOn Cherry argue on hockey night in canada is really making me sad. (once again this is not meant to put anyone down but gary bettman)(the man who ruined my saturday nights)

being the commish seems to be one of those 'dirty jobs, but someone's gotta do it'.
this is especially true in major league baseball, where bud selig took the job on an interim basis in '92 after fay vincent was forced to resign (vincent had stepped in when bart giamatti passed away in '89).
13 years later he's still the reluctant commish...

who would u say is a good candidate to clean up bettman's mess?

The NHL cannot survive with one foot in Canada and one in the US. With the disparity of the dollar and looney and no salary cap we'll never see another Canadian team ever win the Stanley Cup. The only solution is to form a World Hockey League where Euro teams visit the states for 3 weeks and play 10 teams;then return. Same with Russia etc.

NHL needs contraction. Columbus and Nashville needs a team? They should go back to the original 8 or so teams, Red Wings, Black Hawks etc.

Not so fast Child.
Columbus has a pretty big arena...holds 18,000. They're at 95% attendance, one of the highest in the league

I'd take tradition over profit, and so would most hockey fans. I remember a few years ago hearing that The Flyers were playing The Blue Jackets, and I thought "Who?". Get rid of the newbies and Hockey will be great again, because with less teams, the talent on the remaining teams will increase and the quality of the game will increase.

I don't know, I like more teams. BTW would the Canucks be part of the original teams?

I want a World Hockey Club Championship, where teams from different leagues compete (NA and European basically only competent ones). That'd be cool, but I guess not realistic.

How long will the lockout last?

Sorry Ray, Child would eliminate the Canucks.You're not from Burnaby eh?

Bye Bye Canucks...You can watch Bertuzzi attempt murder in a Canadien uniform.

****. Finally became division champion again last year, you can't do that to us. Not from Burnaby.


Oh, come on, I don't want to have to argue about this. He clearly did not intend to 'murder' anyone, I think Moore broke his neck when he fell to the ice, and then his avs teammates got on top of Bert. Not a good game anyways, shameful act by bert.

The canadien would be what like the shame team then with Ribeiro and his Passion of the Christ stunt.

Sure you would and in no time you wouldn't have a league. Teams like Columbus carry their own weight and contribute to the salvage operation of teams that can't compete

ok, a little NHL history, stored in my memory banks

original 6 -- ny rangers, boston bruins, montreal canadiens, toronto maple leafs, chicago black hawks, detroit red wings.
1st expansion (1967-68) -- philadelphia flyers, pittsburgh penguins, minnesota north stars, st.louis blues, california golden seals, los angeles kings.
2nd expansion (1970-71) -- buffalo sabres, vancouver canucks
3rd expansion (1972-73) -- ny islanders, atlanta flames
4th expansion (1974-75) -- washington capitals, colorado rockies.
WHA expansion (1979-80) -- hartford whalers, quebec nordiques, winnipeg jets, edmonton oilers... i think just those 4?

soon thereafter i started to lose interest...

If you were to go with original six teams, then you would get rid of Edmonton, city of champions!!! Great memories there. Vancouver is also a city that's actually mmaking lots of profits so I don't think you want the franchise to be over.

Oh hey, wasn't Minnesota part of that WHA expansion?

North Stars...you'd think hockey would thrive in Minnesota

Never could figure why the established North Stars moved out and the expansion Wild moved in.