Is "for" necessary in this sentence?

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I intend (for) our union to be eternal.

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@perennialloner,

No, Paren, no

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"For" is not necessary, but it is not wrong either, just a little old-fashioned.

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@centrox,

Thank you contrex.

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@perennialloner,

perennialloner wrote:

I intend (for) our union to be eternal.

That's what I said.

Then she said: Sho nuff, long as you got the cash. The meter's runnin.

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@centrox,

centrox wrote:

"For" is not necessary, but it is not wrong either, just a little old-fashioned.

I guess I'm old-fashioned enough to think that, yeah, it's necessary.

I intend kill the sumbitch. <----that right? How about...
I intend to kill the sumbitch.

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@centrox,

centrox wrote:

"For" is not necessary, but it is not wrong either, just a little old-fashioned.

I'll take your word for it. But...
"I intend our union to be eternal..." sounds really awkward to my ears. Sounds like it should be a Shakespeare line and never actually spoken by a real live person.

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@layman,

'For' is optional in the examples cited by the questioner, 'to' is necessary in the examples cited by you.

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@tsarstepan,

tsarstepan wrote:

centrox wrote:

"For" is not necessary, but it is not wrong either, just a little old-fashioned.

I'll take your word for it. But...
"I intend our union to be eternal..." sounds really awkward to my ears. Sounds like it should be a Shakespeare line and never actually spoken by a real live person.

Maybe it's a British English thing. I intend my book to be a best-seller.

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@perennialloner,

perennialloner wrote:

I intend (for) our union to be eternal.

Well, I guess you could say that the "to" is in there---it just seems to be in the wrong place.

"I intend it to be eternal--our union, that is." Awkward as it is, that might work for me...

Naw, I would still want to say "I intend for it to be...." It just seems like some kind of "link" is needed between the state of mind and the external target.

Then again, I wouldn't have any problem with something like: "I intend it as a compliment," so....

Long story, short: Hell, I don't know.

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@layman,

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Hell, I don't know

Man, me nuther
Mebbe context

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@dalehileman,

Dale, why do you insist you write this way to save keystrokes? Mebbe is the same number of keystrokes as maybe. Mebbe you like talking this way cause it entertains somehow. But it entertains at the expense of language learners. There's a time and place.

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@perennialloner,

perennialloner wrote:

... it entertains at the expense of language learners. There's a time and place.

This has been made clear to him on numerous occasions. I believe it is a form of passive aggression. When people are sufficiently provoked that they ask him not to do it, he pretends to believe (or actually believes) he is being persecuted by humourless intolerant fascists, and then does it all the more. Rinse and repeat. Various signs suggest he may be passing through the onset of what we used to call "senile dementia". Or possibly the trait was inborn, I don't know. Perhaps he is just bored and is amusing himself.

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@perennialloner,

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Dale, why do you insist you write this way to save keystrokes?

Alas Peren ur probly right on

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