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The best toilet-I need your advice

 
 
Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2017 11:02 am
I'm thinking about getting rid of my old American Standard. Now I'm considering buying a TOTO or Kohler. Need your thoughts...
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2017 01:02 pm
@Hugo Lam,
Have you considered a newer American Standard?
TomTomBinks
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2017 01:14 pm
@Hugo Lam,
All the newer toilets are low-flow. Try to get the highest flow of the low-flows, otherwise you'll be flushing twice.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2017 02:02 pm
@Hugo Lam,
Consumer Reports might be a better source.
ossobucotemp
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2017 04:41 pm
One that isn't too short - I need to grab the outlet thing in the face of the sink to help me get up. I had no clue of all this when I bought the toilet, the matter of lowering carefully and rising ok.

I'm more normal in other situations, better commodes..
I a few times designed bathrooms at parks. Let's say I'd like to reconsider.

So, to me the question is who will be your toilet users.

oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2017 08:02 pm
@TomTomBinks,
TomTomBinks wrote:
All the newer toilets are low-flow. Try to get the highest flow of the low-flows, otherwise you'll be flushing twice.

Last I knew (I admit that it has been awhile since I've heard, so things might have changed) you could still buy new 3½ gallon toilets in Canada and legally bring them back over the border to the US.

I also understand that there is a black market in old 5 to 7 gallon toilets removed from old buildings. I know nothing of how to get into contact with this black market however.



There are also a number of rankings of how various low-flow designs perform. Tsarstepan already mentioned Consumer Reports.

Consumersearch is another good site. They compare Consumer Reports with a number of other review sources (and even customer reviews on sites like Amazon), and try to come up with a consensus among all reviewers.

http://www.consumersearch.com/toilets
http://www.consumersearch.com/toilets/how-to-buy-a-toilet
http://www.consumersearch.com/toilets/best-standard-toilet
http://www.consumersearch.com/toilets/best-low-flow-toilet
http://www.consumersearch.com/toilets/best-dual-flush-toilet
http://www.consumersearch.com/toilets/reviews

In subjects where I am highly familiar with the product category being reviewed, I would give Consumersearch a B+ grade for their quality of review. They aren't perfect, but they are pretty good overall. And considering the difficulty of knowing where to go for an A+ quality review if you are not already familiar with the subject, it is nice to know you can always get a reliable B+ review for subjects that you are not familiar with.



Once a long time ago there was a plumber on the news for having a toilet ranking page. I believe this might be him (though I'm dredging my memory here):

http://www.terrylove.com/crtoilet.htm

This guy is also one of the sources considered by Consumersearch.
nacredambition
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2017 01:58 am
@Hugo Lam,
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The best toilet-I need your advice


Hugo Lam have you considered Huge 'Ole' Am Us the bigguns in lavatorial largesse?
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Hugo Lam
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2017 08:20 am
@McGentrix,
Nah, you don't change toilet often. I want to try something new.
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Hugo Lam
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2017 08:24 am
@TomTomBinks,
How about dual flush? Is it making any good?
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Hugo Lam
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2017 08:25 am
@tsarstepan,
Cool, thanks. Wink
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Hugo Lam
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2017 08:29 am
@ossobucotemp,
Is the first sentence saying Champion-one is too short...?
Me and my family will be the user. That's like two adults and a cute dog. Wink
Hugo Lam
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2017 08:36 am
@oralloy,
A black market for toilets... why...?

That is only B+. Geez, I get most of the information from the internet. Then, where shall I find a quality source.
TomTomBinks
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2017 09:55 am
@Hugo Lam,
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A black market for toilets... why...?

Because the regulations won't let you buy a new high-flow toilet or install an old high-flow in new construction. The old high-flow toilets work better. I don't know about the dual flush. They seem kind of gimmicky.
I installed a 1.28 gallons/flush two years ago and it takes two (sometimes three) flushes. Even my five year old daughter can plug it up. The biggest you can get is 1.6 g/f. I'd get that one if I were you.
ossobucotemp
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2017 05:19 pm
@Hugo Lam,
I have no idea what Champion one is. I do have an idea of trouble for some people with too short toilets.

Assuming older people will visit you, consider adding a rope from the ceiling for them to grab.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2017 06:15 pm
@Hugo Lam,
Hugo Lam wrote:
That is only B+. Geez, I get most of the information from the internet. Then, where shall I find a quality source.

B+ is a quality source. It may not be perfect, but it is very good.

The only way you will find a "perfect" source is to familiarize yourself with the industry to the extent that you become a pretty good source yourself. Otherwise you will not be able to tell the good sources from the bad.

Reliably getting B+ quality of reviews without first having to familiarize yourself with the industry is a pretty good thing.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2017 06:18 pm
@TomTomBinks,
TomTomBinks wrote:
Because the regulations won't let you buy a new high-flow toilet or install an old high-flow in new construction.

You pass inspection first, and then you swap out the toilets after the inspectors leave.


TomTomBinks wrote:
The biggest you can get is 1.6 g/f. I'd get that one if I were you.

Canada at least used to sell new 3½ gallon toilets that Americans could take back over the border.

I'm unsure if they still do, but they probably do (although I'd call first just to be sure before traveling to buy a toilet).

http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,41900,00.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/07/27/garden/the-conservative-agenda-a-big-flush.html

http://www.themanitoban.com/2015/03/the-toilet-wars/23367/
ossobucotemp
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2017 06:23 pm
@ossobucotemp,
I failed to answer well re toilets around the world, including a surprise to me at the Vatican. Not everyone is from the US.

I hate to say it, but we are often pansies.
Hugo Lam
 
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Reply Mon 6 Feb, 2017 04:27 am
@TomTomBinks,
You sound convincing to me.
Do you have any specific brand or model?
Hugo Lam
 
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Reply Mon 6 Feb, 2017 04:28 am
@ossobucotemp,
For real?
Can't I buy a toilet with higher seat?
Hugo Lam
 
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Reply Mon 6 Feb, 2017 04:43 am
@oralloy,
Agree. How about your own opinion on the best toilet.
 

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