The Red Shift without Expansion

There is a group of MIT grads who are working on the reason the electron and proton have the mass that they have.

That is how science works. When so many experiments all confirm a theory, the theory is accepted until there is some legitimate experiment that is reproduceable and whose results don't fit into the currently theory.

Max, do you really believe we don't know this? Do you realize you are not addressing the questions asked of you?

... there are a great number of Physics laws for which we have found no explanation other than the mathematics (Feynman uses the Gravitation inverse squared law as an example).

So, I don't know what difference you are making between theory and math.

At this point you are just arguing for arguments sake. This has stopped being an interesting discussion and is now just a pissing match.

Stop being afraid of a different scientific perspective.

His observation would be correct, but it would not amount to a scientific theory (which attempts to explain, not just catalog, empirically observable phenomena).

Einstein's theory has the very highest degree of æsthetic merit: every lover of the beautiful must wish it to be true.

Einstein's work, we may now positively expect, will remain a monument of science; his theory entirely fulfills the first and principal demand that we may make, that of deducing the course of phenomena from certain principles exactly and to the smallest details. It was certainly fortunate that he himself put the ether in the background; if he had not done so, he probably would never have come upon the idea that has been the foundation of all his examinations.

Thanks to his indefatigable exertions and perseverance, for he had great difficulties to overcome in his attempts, Einstein has attained the results, which I have tried to sketch, while still young; he is now 45 years old. He completed his first investigations in Switzerland, where he first was engaged in the Patent Bureau at Berne and later as a professor at the Polytechnic in Zurich. After having been a professor for a short time at the University of Prague, he settled in Berlin, where the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute afforded him the opportunity to devote himself exclusively to his scientific work. He repeatedly visited our country and made his Netherland colleagues, among whom he counts many good friends, partners in his studies and his results. He attended the last meeting of the department of natural philosophy of the Royal Academy of Sciences, and the members then had the privilege of hearing him explain, in his own fascinating, clear and simple way, his interpretations of the fundamental questions to which his theory gives rise.

You are not even getting the historical facts correct Layman

Ether and the Theory of Relativity

by Albert Einstein

According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is unthinkable; for in such space there not only would be no propagation of light, but also no possibility of existence for standards of space and time (measuring-rods and clocks), nor therefore any space-time intervals in the physical sense.

Physics is settled on which theories can provide a testable mathematical model that is then confirmed by experiment and observation.

Max, you've said you're not that familiar with GR. Nor am I. I certainly don't purport to be any kind of expert on the topic. That said, I am capable of reading what those with expertise have to say.

Maybe you're not aware of the fact that, in GR, gravitational time distortion is NOT relative. It is absolute.

This is like arguing literature with someone who has yet to master the alphabet.

A> The red shift tells that the galaxies are going away from us in the manner the science says.

B> This is science. It does not follow that the space of the universe is expanding.

C> This is logic,