What is your dream of heaven?

Are we suppose to give our opinion on the subject?

OR just read your 1?

If there is a Heaven...

...I suspect this is it.

This world is Heaven.

Or Hell...if you choose.

For me...it is Heaven.

What's my dream of heaven? 72 porn stars.

Ya know, I've tried really hard to figure out what my idea of heaven might be ... & nothing in particular comes to mind. Things are just the way they are. How boring is that? :wink:

My idea of heaven would be a world in which there were no cruel, stupid or evil people, no diseases, no parasites, perfect bodies, no one devastated by hurricanes, tornados, earthquakes, or other disasters, no pollution, unlimited energy and natural resources, beautiful scenery (like coluber's but I want lots of waterfalls, hot springs to soak in and no snakes), plenty of wilderness, picturesque villages with no traffic lights, roads that never had to be patched, quiet vehicles (anyone playing music that could be heard outside of the car would be locked in a room and made to listen to music they hated for 7 years), and community rooms where we could gather for intelligent conversation - I picture a fireplace, leather chairs, bookcases, and a butler serving your choice of beverages.

Oh, and I would never, ever have to get up at 2:45 am again to go to work.

PS - I would also like dogs and cats that don't shed, weedless gardens, clothes that don't wear out or have to be washed, and the ability to remember things I need to know.

Heaven and Hell can create dreams. The mind and body of some, with or without a human body, is heaven and hell. Those kinds of beings can create dreams and induce them into other's minds of those who are in a state of sleep.

On reflection, most of us don't think about heaven, but we do have heavenly dreams. What are yours?

Heavens, Terry. Two-forty five A.M.? Do you work on the television Morning Show?
Notice how our conceptions (humorous or serious) of Heaven is SO unlike our conceptions of real life. I'd like to think my notion of heaven is the same as my notion of actual life.

Heaven? 'Seems so far away' as said Travis.
Or something like that anyway.

Heaven?
I wish I could say that I gave the present moment the attention it deserved and in the moment, discovered it's ecstacy...but no.. well....there have been moments of absolute heaven...but also hell.

I wonder if this is the challenge...can there be heaven without hell ( light without dark)?

If not this reality is heaven ( and hell)

I always thought that heaven was a terrible idea as it seemed to encourage lethargy in this world...as what's the point? If I suffer here I will have my just desserts in the afterlife.

What would I like heaven to be like if there truly is such a place....um. Feelings of peace, calm and contentment...followed by wild passion and ecstacy, settling back down to peace for a while....

I don;t know what that would look like? Mountains? Rivers? Beaches? Nah, it's more about feelings than situations.

And to never feel alone.

Sozmac, a very thoughtful post. I agree that the notion of heaven REQUIRES the notion of Hell. But the "heaven" of Buddhism (Nirvana) transcends that distinction. Indeed, the mental state of nirvana entails the transcendence of that and the disposition to make any abolute distinctions. The heaven/hell disctinction was a ploy, a ruse, of established religion. People everywhere realize the fact of dying, that all people die. It also seems obvious to reason that there is no solution to the problem of death--everyone inevitably dies. Then the Church came and told people that it is true that death is unavoidable, and that as such it is not a problem (problems by definition have solutions, or they are not problems). Their real problem, the Church argued, is what happens to their "SOULS". This IS, the Church says, a valid problem because it has a solution. One can hold beliefs and conduct oneself in such a way that his soul will go to heaven rather than to hell, that this is the solution to their central problem. So life vs. death is not their problem; heaven vs. hell is.
What nonsence!

Only 72?

One of my dreams of heaven was hearing the exact natural scales sung by resonant voices.
It was a dazzling experience.

Otis, I'm getting on in years.

so, jlnobody, heaven and hell is in fact a state of duality, which is a purely human notion. Ergo there is no heaven or hell, everything just is.

Even in death I guess.

But this attitude of unity, seems so bland, or is that just my 'human dualistic nature'??

This is interesting. Could you elaborate? Were you dreaming? An auditory dream?

Sozmac, the unity of all things is profoundly thrilling for me. But I do understand your point. It IS the case that dualism is the basis for our construction of life's meanings. Without it we would have no literature, no poetry (unless it is of the haiku sort), and little philosophy (although there are philosophical advocates of nondualism), not to mention our everyday meanings that define our culture. Oh, and Marvel comic books would be impossible. But true religion, as I understand it, is only possible nondualistically. Otherwise it is mere ideology, mythology and doctrine.

Religion is always guesswork whether created with a dualistic or nondualistic substructure. It is always going to be ideology, mythology, and/or doctrine.

I was at a state of reduced arousal, and was unusually tired. But the sound in my mind was perfect, which was not very ordinary as, I must admit, I have not the best ear for music.

so, if true religion or spirituality is nondualistic. Traditional religion is then dualistic reflecting our nature as humans, BUT how do we incorporate this nonduality in our lives and in a way that is not flavourless?

And if this is so, why is there such a division between us and the divine? Are we not all a piece of or the whole of, (depending on your beliefs) god or divinity?

And if then, to nondualistic belief, we are both divinity and humanity, how do we in actuality find balance and peace.

jlnobody, you said the unity of all things is profoundly exciting. How do YOU incorporate this in your daily existence?

for example your quote, about good people and bad people, it is a traditional notion of dualism, that is hard to escape. ANd if 'one' does escape that duality it sometimes feels so p.c. as to be nothing at all!

And do you mean 'unity', as in the 'the whole contained within the single cell'? Or unity as in nonduality?


And I absolutely agree...no marvel comics...life would not be worth living!!!!!

And I confess my brain is all twisted up in knots right now...must go and have a cuppa coffee to wake up.
Or maybe I've had too much already and that's the prob!!!!