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Doom and gloom of our economy

 
 
Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2016 10:00 pm
Many pundits are saying that the stock market will lose 50% of their value "soon."
I'm not sure what that means. Very simply, Economics is not science. There's no way to measure something that's always in flux. However, we do know that our economy is still growing at 1.6%; that's better than most economies of the developed countries. China and India are growing at better rates, but most of their citizens live in poverty, and they're the two largest country by population.

As long as over 70% of our economy is based on consumption, and that doesn't change, we will maintain our economy. The biggest problem now is the increasing value of our currency which makes it more difficult to trade with other countries.

The feds have been talking about increasing the interest rate, but I believe that would be the wrong move when our economy is so fragile.

Rather, it's a good time for the government to spend on our infrastructure. Money spent now will increase demand in other areas of our economy, and the circulation of money will stabilize our economy.

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Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2016 10:22 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Just wait till Trump gets his phone back and twits after midnight...
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2016 04:12 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Well good old Herbie Hoover was part of a financial crash down, I expect nothing less from Trump.
roger
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2016 04:30 pm
@Sturgis,
That's a good possibility, but I'm flabbergasted at the stock markets' performance after the results were out.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2016 04:32 pm
@Sturgis,
Trump's economic plans will destroy our economy. How should we prepare for it?
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/05/donald-trumps-economy/481743/

This is the reason why the faculty and students at Wharton disavowed Trump as a fellow graduate of their school. Trump doesn't reflect their values.
roger
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2016 04:38 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Fortunately, while there are things a president can do, there are also things a president cannot do. I'm not sure when he will make that discovery.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2016 06:50 pm
@roger,
True; but with a republican congress ................
roger
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2016 07:19 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Maybeso. Still, I recall Trump disavowing the party maybe a week or so before the election. In any case, I don't think we owe him a thing.

Not that I would try to make predictions about congress, of course. Just thinking the honeymoon period came and went early on the 9th of November.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2016 07:29 pm
@cicerone imposter,
From the WSJ: http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2016/06/20/u-s-economy-would-be-diminished-under-trumps-economic-plan-new-analysis-says/


Jobs

The investment in infrastructure could also create millions of relatively high-paying jobs. It remains to be seen though, whether there are enough skilled workers to fill them. With the job market already tightening, some employers are having a tough time filling skilled positions.

Trump's jobs program also faces a major hurdle created by his signature pledge to restrict immigration. Economists generally agree that a slowdown in the growth of the labor force in the last decade has created a major headwind for economic expansion. Restricting immigration, let alone deporting millions of immigrants already in the U.S., would further slow the expansion of the pool of workers to fill the jobs Trump has promised to create.


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Miller
 
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Reply Tue 15 Nov, 2016 07:49 am
@roger,
roger wrote:

... I'm flabbergasted at the stock markets' performance after the results were out.


Most of the activity (!) is due to the selling of certain bulks of stocks and the buying of stocks that some people think will be critical to Trump's plan for infrastructure....etc. Bank stocks are up, stocks for heavy equipment ( Dere, etc ) are up, and many healthcare related stocks are up, drug companies etc.

It's a flux, notcarefully thought out by very many investors, who by the way are mostly day-traders.
Miller
 
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Reply Tue 15 Nov, 2016 08:03 am
Every dollar spent on paving a highway, is a dollar not spent on medical care, medical research or even medical education.

Do folks want more bridges and highways, or do they really want a cure for diabetes, cancer, heart disease, kidney failure ...etc?

Folks can't have it both ways. Will people be happy while driving down a new, shiny, well-built highway, while they're suffering from lung, prostate, uterine cancer, for which there may not be a readily available cure?

Or, more to the point...will folks stop complaining about the price of drugs, when they get to drive across America over new highways and bridges?

Which is more important? Health or highways?

Also, Ryan plans on "modifying Medicare". Result will be elderly folks, lacking Medicare benefits, but oh so happy! driving down that shiny,new highway built by the "working men and women of middle class America".

Think coal miners! Oh how happy they will be with Trump, who doesn't want to close the coal mines. How happy to be receiving a nice paycheck, while suffering from lung cancer, because lung cancer research is and will continue to be underfunded in America's institutes of higher education.

But...oh those nice shiny bridges and highways!!
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 15 Nov, 2016 10:17 am
@Miller,
Deer, dear, Deere.
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