2
   

80% drop in the stock market in 2017

 
 
Reply Mon 19 Dec, 2016 08:50 pm
Quote:
80% Stock Market Crash To Strike in 2017, Economist Warns


http://thesovereigninvestor.com/exclusives/80-stock-market-crash-to-strike-in-2016/?z=511244

This was a refrain heard in 2015 for 2016, but it never happened. Now, they're repeating this fear mongering at what benefit or harm?

The United States of America is still the strongest military and economy in the world. I don't see anything that will change that scenario in 2017 or later.

The only problem I see facing our country is our balance of payments (deficit as a ratio of GDP). That's because interest payments take up a higher percentage of the federal budget, and those payments are made to Japan and China, the largest holders of our Treasuries.

What do you think about the 80% drop in the US stock market next year?

  • Topic Stats
  • Top Replies
  • Link to this Topic
Type: Discussion • Score: 2 • Views: 1,564 • Replies: 40
No top replies

 
reasoning logic
 
  1  
Reply Tue 27 Dec, 2016 08:58 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
What do you think about the 80% drop in the US stock market next year?


I don't think it will be that bad but I do think it wont be good.

0 Replies
 
Builder
 
  0  
Reply Tue 27 Dec, 2016 09:29 pm
Wall street has recieved hundreds of billions in artificial stimulation.

China is aware of the ponzi scheme tactics. I'm surprised that other nations are still aquiring US treasury bonds.

cicerone imposter
 
  0  
Reply Tue 27 Dec, 2016 09:51 pm
@Builder,
The reason is the interest rate on US treasury bonds is one of the best and secure.

Can you provide the source for the "hundreds of billions in artificial stimulation?"
Builder
 
  1  
Reply Tue 27 Dec, 2016 09:57 pm
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/021116/quantitative-easing-report-card-2016.asp

and here. http://www.againstcronycapitalism.org/2013/03/85-billion-per-month-from-the-federal-reserve-drives-stocks-higher/

At that monthly rate, it's likely to have hit a trillion, CI.
glitterbag
 
  1  
Reply Tue 27 Dec, 2016 10:04 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Ignore builder, he loves the Ponzi scheme fairy tail.
Builder
 
  1  
Reply Tue 27 Dec, 2016 10:06 pm
@glitterbag,
Take your own advice for a change.

The reserve bank admitted their actions have failed.

Though they haven't ruled out more handouts. Cue QE4.
0 Replies
 
cicerone imposter
 
  0  
Reply Tue 27 Dec, 2016 10:18 pm
@Builder,
Do you know what's wrong with Sean Ross's commentary? He's looking at the issue with myopia. Our economy is tied to the whole world; we're not an economy in isolation.
He probably never studied Macroeconomics. I did.
When our country continued to grow, even slowly, while the rest of the world sank into stagnation, it proved that our country's economy is quite strong, because 70% of it is made up by consumers. That means enough people are earning money to spend.
Employment is growing and so are wages. When unemployment continues to decrease, wages will naturally go higher.

The current unemployment rate is 4.6%. It was 5% this time last year.

Quote:
For example, in 1999, in the United States, the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) gives an estimate of the "full-employment unemployment rate" of 4 to 6.4%. This is the estimated unemployment rate at full employment, plus & minus the standard error of the estimate.[3]
Builder
 
  1  
Reply Tue 27 Dec, 2016 10:28 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Firstly, the rest of the world didn't sink into stagnation. In fact, our economy survived the orchestrated coup that they called the GFC better than any other western nation.

The federal reserve's first-ever audit revealed that they'd created 16 trillion dollars US out of thin air, to prop up their various buddies around the globe.

That was almost completely ignored by the MSM in the USA.

I've just shown you how the same corrupt org has artificially stimulated the stock market, not for one year, but for nine consecutive years, and they've just announced more of the same.

China is in on this deal. Their economy is being artificially held back, to make their exports even cheaper than they should be.

This isn't a theory. Many are aware of this.

I'm surprised that you aren't already.
cicerone imposter
 
  0  
Reply Tue 27 Dec, 2016 10:30 pm
@Builder,
There are many articles out there on the EU's economic stagnation. Here's one of many.
http://www.heritage.org/research/lecture/is-europe-doomed-to-continued-economic-stagnation

It's really funny that you mention China's economy. Yes, their economy is growing at 6%+ per year, but they're polluting their water and air for the economic growth. Many are dying.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/02/11/pollution-crisis-is-choking-the-chinese-economy.html
cicerone imposter
 
  0  
Reply Tue 27 Dec, 2016 10:35 pm
@Builder,
Quote:
The federal reserve's first-ever audit revealed that they'd created 16 trillion dollars US out of thin air, to prop up their various buddies around the globe.


How has that negatively impacted our economy?
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Tue 27 Dec, 2016 10:41 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Here's the list of foreign aid in 2015. They include monetary and military aids.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_foreign_aid
Builder
 
  1  
Reply Tue 27 Dec, 2016 10:46 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
It's really funny that you mention China's economy. Yes, their economy is growing at 6%+ per year, but they're polluting their water and air for the economic growth. Many are dying.


You're not aware of the sacrifice zones in your own nation?


Quote:
All of the communities Reuters investigated had lead levels at least two times higher than Flint’s; more than 1,000 were four times higher. In most cases, the local data covered a 5- to 10-year period through 2015, the analysis states.

Areas affected by lead poisoning populate the map from Texas to Pennsylvania, reported Reuters‘ M.B. Pell and Joshua Schneyer. The available data charts 21 states that are home to about 61 percent of the U.S. population.

Despite the massive drop in lead poisoning rates since the 1970s—when heavy metals were phased out of paint and gasoline—many communities throughout the country are still at risk.



And this article shows how we thrived through the GFC period. Your claims are US-centric. Broaden your parameters, CI.

Quote:
Australia survived the global financial crisis without suffering the recession that crippled most Western economies and has registered strong growth during the latest downturn which has hit other countries hard.

Mr Swan oversaw the cash handouts in 2008 and the schools building program that were widely credited with quarantining Australia from the economic woes of the GFC.


source
Builder
 
  1  
Reply Tue 27 Dec, 2016 10:48 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Here's the list of foreign aid in 2015. They include monetary and military aids.


While your nation's debt almost doubled, right? How many trillion now?>

Or in macro-economic terms, that's actually a good thing, right?
cicerone imposter
 
  0  
Reply Tue 27 Dec, 2016 10:50 pm
@Builder,
Why aren't the local governments making sure they are safe from pollutants?

They're not doing their jobs. They have a responsibility to their constituents to make sure their water is safe. Otherwise, they're ignoring their responsibilities.

Our city measures our waters biological and metal contents regularly to make sure we have safe water.
cicerone imposter
 
  0  
Reply Tue 27 Dec, 2016 10:52 pm
@Builder,
There's not much we can do as individuals when the government makes any decision. It's a democratic republic.
0 Replies
 
Builder
 
  1  
Reply Tue 27 Dec, 2016 10:52 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Where is the EPA? It's obvious from the scene in Michigan, that local authorities need oversight.

Privatisation is the problem.
cicerone imposter
 
  0  
Reply Tue 27 Dec, 2016 10:58 pm
@Builder,
They sure do! But it boggles the mind to think their local government would expose their own citizens to poison. They failed in their duty of due diligence.

I worked on the Santa Clara County Civil Grand Jury in 2003-2004 year, and we wrote the most reports of any grand jury until then. Many leaders who we saw failed their responsibilities lost their jobs - even one Mayor.
0 Replies
 
Builder
 
  1  
Reply Tue 27 Dec, 2016 10:59 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
How has that negatively impacted our economy?


How could anyone even factor in something so huge, when the federal reserve wasn't going to make it public anyway?
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Tue 27 Dec, 2016 11:02 pm
@Builder,
Well, I know from reading that 70% of our economy is consumer spending.
That's the biggest hunk of our economy.
The U.S. economy is predominantly driven by consumer spending, which accounts for approximately 70 percent of all economic growth.
Consumer Spending and the Economy - The New York Times
fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/19/consumer-spending-and-the-economy/
 

 
  1. Forums
  2. » 80% drop in the stock market in 2017
Copyright © 2019 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 0.03 seconds on 05/23/2019 at 07:35:41