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Republicans did not grow their base, Democrats lost voters

 
 
DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2016 09:11 am
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:

You'll need to explain what you mean.

Each state has at least three electoral college votes, regardless of population. Smaller states are disproportionately white....
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2016 10:49 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

I hate to spoil everyone's fun, but I want to respond to RG's thesis. Clinton failed to "energize" the Democrats' base. She wasted all that time on a futile effort in Florida, and took for granted so-called blue states which Mr. Obama had taken in the two previous elections. Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania were lost to Trump. Winning those three states would have put Clinton over the top. She lost because Democratic voters stayed home rather than coming out to vote. I believe that her lackluster performance also sank the chance of the Democrats taking over the Senate.

More Democratic voters voted than Republican voters.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2016 11:09 am
@InfraBlue,
and gerrymandering in those states guaranteed the outcome, even though in Pa, she won the popular vote. All that popular vote is worthless when the gerrymandered electoral reps./house districts were defined by the 2010 census (terms of which were clearly in GOP control)

Lash
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2016 11:30 am
@InfraBlue,
... in California and New York?
McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2016 02:13 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

and gerrymandering in those states guaranteed the outcome, even though in Pa, she won the popular vote. All that popular vote is worthless when the gerrymandered electoral reps./house districts were defined by the 2010 census (terms of which were clearly in GOP control)


You keep bringing up gerrymandering which has zero to do with Presidential races. It only effects local and congressional voting.

Trump won Pennsylvania's popular vote (1 person, 1 vote) 2,912,941 to 2,844,705. More people in Pennsylvania voted for Trump than Hillary. No trickery, no foolish business, no tom-foolery. Just simply won the popular vote for that state.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2016 03:17 pm
@Lash,
Throughout the entire country.
roger
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2016 03:48 pm
@revelette2,
Thanks for the post and the link.
revelette2
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2016 04:19 pm
@roger,
Thanks and your welcome.

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revelette2
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2016 04:22 pm
@InfraBlue,
Perhaps infrablue, but not in the states which we needed to win. Trump won exactly what he needed to win but we fell short, people either stayed home or voted third party in the swing states.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2016 05:07 pm
@revelette2,
Right, she didn't play the system properly.
McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2016 05:59 pm
Test for echo
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2016 06:00 pm
@McGentrix,
farmerman wrote:

and gerrymandering in those states guaranteed the outcome, even though in Pa, she won the popular vote. All that popular vote is worthless when the gerrymandered electoral reps./house districts were defined by the 2010 census (terms of which were clearly in GOP control)


You keep bringing up gerrymandering which has zero to do with Presidential races. It only effects local and congressional voting.

Trump won Pennsylvania's popular vote (1 person, 1 vote) 2,912,941 to 2,844,705. More people in Pennsylvania voted for Trump than Hillary. No trickery, no foolish business, no tom-foolery. Just simply won the popular vote for that state.
tony5732
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2016 08:39 pm
@InfraBlue,
Well she's not in jail.....
Lash
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2016 09:45 pm
@InfraBlue,
Then she'd be president.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Mon 14 Nov, 2016 10:08 pm
@tony5732,
tony5732 wrote:

Well she's not in jail.....


Not yet..... However the coming Obama pardon will save her.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 15 Nov, 2016 02:48 am
@InfraBlue,
It didn't do her a hell of a lot of good, though, did it?
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Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Tue 15 Nov, 2016 05:06 pm
@Robert Gentel,
I wanted to note that I am not sure how accurate this data is given that some counts have not finished and the sources are using projections. Worth taking with a grain of salt till the counts finish.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Tue 15 Nov, 2016 05:48 pm
@Robert Gentel,
The Democrats' popular vote has been increasing. According to Time, their lead is at just over one million votes.

http://time.com/4572295/hillary-clinton-popular-vote-lead/
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2016 06:14 am
@McGentrix,
you are correct. Sorry, I thought the Pileggi Act went into effect in Pa in 2013. This created an electoral district based on the legislative districts.
It failed in the Senate and apparently I was getting a haircut
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