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Mon 13 Sep, 2004 03:36 pm
John 21
21 Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do?
22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me.
23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?
24 This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true.
25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
What Peter remembered somehow got said in the book of Matt, Mark and Luke (**Stop! See first evidence in post below before reading on)... Now we have this which indicates that the book of John too was by the same author of the book of Matthew, Mark and Luke.
That single author had to be Simon who is called Peter. The author finally implicates himself as a disciple here in John 21:24. So you can't argue with this finding.
So Simon (Peter) took on the name of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John as aliases. Afterall, it had to have been one person's thing or idea to jot sayings and jot events down and put among those sayings and events great lies. But could certain of Jesus' sayings have been stolen for Simon's purpose to create those books of his? And did somehow Jesus know about it? Wait until you read Matthew 24:43-45 and Mark 13:34-37.
And then we've got the book of Revelation by John. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if that book is supposed to be by the John concerning the 'gospel according to John' book, then it is Simon (Peter) aswell indeed.
So last words to an author still stands as: "Why U lie?!"
Now check it out:
Matthew 24
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house (Simon as it turns out) had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
^Who then? Answer: Simon (Peter) because Simon gave Luke, John, Matthew, and Mark meat in due season. And it's in the sense that it's shown to be him (Simon) all along. Or the answer could be that Simon's true followers (of the elect) would give his work (work of some great lies probably) meat in due season. Meaning they gave Simon (Peter) 3 new names (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John).
Mark 13
34 For the Son of Man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch.
35 Watch ye (Simon) therefore: for ye (Simon) know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning:
36 Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping.
37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.
^^Haha, yeah! I figured it all out. The cock crowing thing concerning what Peter remembered (**see evidence below)! Therefore what I've found out here is some real news.
And to Mark 13:34-37 I hope all you Christians were watching out as in paying attention. In other versions of Mark 13:37 instead of "Watch", the part is "Be alert!" (NASB, HCSB), "Watch for his return!" (NLT), "Keep watch." (MSG), etc. you get the point.
The whole truth coming out is grounds for you to think that if you're are mentally trapped as Christians you should break free. Like 2Pac said "Thugs is convicts in God's prison." Be free from that prison if it's found out to be of lies! Spread this finding around just to see what others who have to say. They deserve to know the truth. The truth can set them free.
Evidence one:
Matthew 26
74 Then began he to curse and to swear, saying, I know not the man. And immediately the cock crew.
75
And Peter remembered the word of Jesus, which said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. And he went out, and wept bitterly.
Evidence two:
Mark 14
71 But he began to curse and to swear, saying, I know not this man of whom ye speak.
72 And the second time the cock crew.
And Peter called to mind the word that Jesus said unto him, Before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice. And when he thought thereon, he wept.
Evidence three:
Luke 22
60 And Peter said, Man, I know not what thou sayest. And immediately, while he yet spake, the cock crew.
61 And the Lord turned, and looked upon Peter.
And Peter remembered the word of the Lord, how he had said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice.
62 And Peter went out, and wept bitterly.
How possible is it for three authors to have read someone's mind at the same exact time as if they knew when to? Come on now.
It had to be the same author because only he would know what he himself remembered.
No one can argue with the finding. Toss it up now! I'd like to see what the guys on the 700 Club have to say on the findings since they've got the power to reach many television wise.
I don't think it takes a rocket scientist (or a Christian) to figure out the flaw in your argument. Simply put, the authors of the gospels did not live in a vacuum. Don't you think it is possible that Peter talked about his experiences with other believers, particularly those in his closest circle? Ever think that maybe, just maybe, he related to Matthew, Mark, Luke and John (and others as well) what he went thru, what he thought?
Of course you choose not to believe what they wrote, which is of course your right. And you may have valid and logical arguments for your reasons for not believing. But I would suggest that you use other arguments for arguing your point instead of this one. It just doesn't float.
Oh, I forgot about your John 21 arguement. So here it is short and to the point. Peter points to John and says what shall this man do. Christ responds as you quoted.
The word "this" which you claim is referring to Peter is referring not to Peter but to John. He is saying that Hey, I know this to be true because I am the disciple Peter was asking about.
But of course you are so intent on trying to prove a point that the obvious is difficult for you to see. I hope I have helped you somewhat. Oh, and if you doubt my explanation, take this passage to any English teacher and ask them to tell you who the word "this" is referring to.
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