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Schools Resegregate, Study Finds

 
 
au1929
 
Reply Tue 21 Jan, 2003 04:11 pm
Schools Resegregate, Study Finds

By GREG WINTER

[]HARLOTTE, N.C., Jan. 20 — Sanetra Jant still wonders where all the white kids went. Only last spring, they made up a quarter of her class, not to mention her friends. And then, poof, they were gone.
"I don't know why they left," said Sanetra, a fourth grader at Reid Park Elementary School.
Last year, before a federal appeals court ended three decades of judicial-supervised desegregation by the district, Sanetra's school was 68 percent black. Now it is almost entirely black, and the many white pupils who once rode in on yellow buses number one in a hundred.
"Maybe they didn't like it here," Sanetra said, knitting her brow in thought.
If there is any one place to witness the changing racial composition of the nation's public schools, perhaps it is here, in the city for which the Supreme Court first endorsed the use of busing to desegregate.
Dozens of Charlotte schools have basically changed color in the months since the appeals court lifted the desegregation order, and though few other places have seen swings so rapid, the city offers a time-lapse view of the steady transformation of the nation's schools.
According to a new study by the Civil Rights Project at Harvard University, black and Latino students are now more isolated from their white counterparts than they were three decades ago, before many of the overhauls from the civil rights movement had even begun to take hold.
To this I say so what. It is time the social engineers learned that you can not force intergration. Instead of wasting untold millions of dollars on busing that money could be better spent to upgrade schools hire and retain teachers and an upgrade of the facilities. The ethnic and racial character of schools only reflect the demographics of the area.
Is that unacceptable if so why?
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/21/education/21RACE.html?todaysheadlines
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jan, 2003 04:30 pm
I never could understand the sense of busing kids out of their home areas, making them take unnescessary trips every day, just so that children of all races should be in school together.

I agree with the writer of the article. Use the money to upgrade schools, especially those in depressed areas; give ALL kids a decent chance at getting a quality education, so that they are equipped to handle jobs where they will be able to raise their positions in life.
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New Haven
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jan, 2003 02:41 pm
Diversity enriches the academic experience. Even in colleges that are integrated, kids tend to mingle with their own ethnic groups. Thus in a typical NYCIty college, Blacks sit with Blacks. Italians sit with Italians.
Koreans sit with Koreans...etc.

Why? Drunk
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au1929
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jan, 2003 03:30 pm
New Haven said

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Diversity enriches the academic experience. Even in colleges that are integrated, kids tend to mingle with their own ethnic groups. Thus in a typical NYCIty college, Blacks sit with Blacks. Italians sit with Italians.
Koreans sit with Koreans...etc.


Don't understand the point you are making. I agree that people will generally mingle with those they have the most in common and feel the most comfortable with. " Birds of a feather". However what has that got to do with diversity? I should think it is just the opposite.
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steissd
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jan, 2003 03:36 pm
IMHO, both legally enforced segregation and desegregation are nonsense. People should have equal rights and opportunities to get a decent education, and no one can force them to befriend any particular people against their will.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jan, 2003 03:40 pm
New Haven- Most people, except for the most sophisticated, tend to congregate with people that are like themselves. The old "birds of a feather......" thing.

I remember doing an internship for grad school in a high school. There were three distinct groups in the school. They were the black kids from the "projects", a group of working class Italian and Polish kids, and upper middle class mostly Jewish kids.

Looking from the inside, as far as these kids were concerned, it could have been three different schools. There was a lounge which the black kids took for themselves. They put up pictures of Martin Luther King, and other posters of particular black interest. In the term that I was there, I never saw a white student go into that lounge.

As far as socialization, I noticed the same thing in the dining room that you did. Groups had their own "area", and no one from another group ever crossed the line.

So, even though the kids lived in the same general area, and were not bused from out of the area, there was no real integration. Besides the social segregation, the upper middle class kids took the college bound courses, while the others took the more technical subjects, that would prepare them for a job where college was not needed.

I don't think that forced integration solves anything. A person needs to get a quality educaton no matter where it is. Personally, I don't think that gerrymandering school districts for the sole purpose of integration solves anything, Take the money, and upgrade ALL the schools.

Where I live the town is 99% white. Recently, a newspaper interviewed one of a handful of black families in the area. The reporter asked the man if he was being treated well by his neighbors. He said absolutely, that everybody was very friendly. When asked about any color differences, the man, who had owned a large business said, laughingly, "the only color that my neighbors see is green"! I think that says it all.
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fishin
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jan, 2003 05:48 pm
au1929 wrote:
Don't understand the point you are making. I agree that people will generally mingle with those they have the most in common and feel the most comfortable with. " Birds of a feather". However what has that got to do with diversity? I should think it is just the opposite.


I believe the point was that all of the programs put in place by colleges to "create a diverse environment" may be close to useless. When a school brings in 5000 students with a racial mix the students segregate themselves within the confines of their new environment. So while the school is claiming it has achived "diversity" all it has really done in many cases is create an envoironment of segregrated groups within a smaller area.

But, on the original issue, the City of Boston is fighting with this very issue right now. There is a proposal to end forced busing in Boston which the School board says will save the Dept. of Ed. over $1 million/year in transportation costs and eliminate 1 hour bus trips that some kids have right now. There is an effort on to go back to "community based schools" in each neighborhood.
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au1929
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jan, 2003 06:02 pm
fishin'
I must be slow on the uptake. Obviously I agree with him.
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