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Short life for illegal Putin bust

 
 
Col Man
 
Reply Sat 21 Aug, 2004 01:06 am
MOSCOW (AFP) - A bust of Russian President Vladimir Putin, illegally erected in northwest Russia, survived only 24 hours before being taken down and hauled away by police, regional officials said.

Although photographs and miniature busts of the Russian leader are common, Russian media speculated that the plaster sculpture in Pskov was the first full size work to see the light of day.

The work of local artist Vitaly Kuzmin, it bore the inscription: "To Vladimir Putin-- the grateful people of Pskov."

It seems to have been a casualty of local political infighting, as it was put up by a group of voters opposed to Pskov's governor Eduard Mikhailov who is running for political office.

When it was unveiled the crowd displayed placards to television cameras with pro-Putin but also anti-Mikhailov slogans.

The statue is now languishing at police headquarters as possible evidence.
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drom et reve
 
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Reply Sat 21 Aug, 2004 04:50 am
It seems that, since I started studying Russian History from 1810 onwards, I have never come across anything that I can call normal rule. Putin really is a dangerous man as regards to Russian democracy...


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Col Man
 
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Reply Sat 21 Aug, 2004 05:44 am
aye for real....
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drom et reve
 
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Reply Sat 21 Aug, 2004 05:54 am
If only we had someone like ZAPATERO, the Spanish PM, for a world leader. Now there's a guy whose policies are decent.

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Col Man
 
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Reply Sat 21 Aug, 2004 05:58 am
really? well you are the bearer of good news today drom Smile
i dont know about any of this.
i stay away from politics and the like...
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drom et reve
 
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Reply Sat 21 Aug, 2004 06:01 am
He's a wonderful man, the guy whose first move when he was elected was to take all of the Spanish troops from Iraq and ensure that they don't go back there.

He's also made gay marriage legal, increased rights all around, and has plans to build up the poor through education and opportunities. He's a diamond guy.

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drom et reve
 
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Reply Sat 21 Aug, 2004 06:02 am
Check this out:

http://fp.enter.net/~haney/jc032104.htm

Whereas other politicians say one thing and mean another, he says 'the war in Iraq is damn stupid;' and acts on undoing it right away.

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Col Man
 
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Reply Sat 21 Aug, 2004 06:04 am
wow Shocked thats good to hear
is he really a politician Question :wink:
no joking aside he earned my respect for pulling the troops out...
and im glad to hear that it seems he actually does care about people Smile
grooooovy Smile
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drom et reve
 
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Reply Sat 21 Aug, 2004 06:13 am
It is groovy Very Happy

If only he'd take over England through peace somehow...

(and get rid of the monarchy while he's at it Very Happy)
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Col Man
 
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Reply Sat 21 Aug, 2004 06:20 am
hahaha listen to you ...shhh dont be saying none of that or they might not let you come back here...
actually theyd be doing you a favour if they did this

well i think a great thing he could do, which i doubt he will, is give south americans (the ones who are descended from spaniards) the chance to become spanish citizens....
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drom et reve
 
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Reply Sat 21 Aug, 2004 06:37 am
O, the only time that I plan on coming back is to see 2 plays at Stratford on New Year's eve.

I think that I recall hearing of his calling a debate about it. The unfortunate thing, though, would be that this would mean that he would be voted out, and the PP (like an evil conglomeration of New Labour and the Tories) would get in and undo all that he's done. (Another question of overpopulation and greed for resources.)
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Col Man
 
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Reply Sat 21 Aug, 2004 06:43 am
ahh the caeser play thing?

and right... well only time will tell...

Smile
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drom et reve
 
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Reply Sat 21 Aug, 2004 06:46 am
Yeah. You know, Mandela's favourite lines were these words, promoting truth and courage, from Cæsar:

Cowards die many times before their deaths;
The valiant never taste of death but once.
Of all the wonders that I yet have heard.
It seems to me most strange that men should fear;
Seeing that death, a necessary end,
Will come when it will come.


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Col Man
 
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Reply Sat 21 Aug, 2004 06:48 am
far out Drom Exclamation
you truly are a wealth of literature arent you Smile
how cool Smile
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drom et reve
 
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Reply Sat 21 Aug, 2004 06:54 am
Very Happy thanks Col! Yeah, I remember lots of lines... I acted lots, since I was in education for such a long time... (I always got the kickass rôles in Shakespeare plays, yay Very Happy)



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Col Man
 
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Reply Sat 21 Aug, 2004 07:05 am
good for you
the only shakespear i know is a midsunner nights dream and the tempest and thats only because they were in a story i read where old bill wrote two plays for a certain lord morpheus who is dream actually i read the tempest once when i was younger too i remember now but it just went in one ear and out the other
acutally did he do anthony and cleopatra? i did that at school but i cant remember that either... oh yes its coming back now and some book about a king called henry/harry with some fat guy friend falstaff...

hmm i was not so good at acting as a child
i once played the part of jack frost in some play i cant remember the name of now....
as a humorous after thought (for me anyway)> hehe the only acting ive done is in police custody Razz
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drom et reve
 
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Reply Sat 21 Aug, 2004 07:11 am
Ah, I love the Tempest Very Happy, it's so magical. That's where my location comes from:

Full faðom fiue thy Father lies,
Of his bones are Corrall made:
Those are pearles that were his eies,
Nothing of him that doth fade,
But doth suffer a Sea-change
Into something rich, & strange:
Sea-Nimphs hourly ring his knell.


I think that you'd like it if you read it again... it says a lot about good overcoming greed (and has an amazing idea, 'the Commonwealth,' which is like Socialism before that was written about.)


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drom et reve
 
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Reply Sat 21 Aug, 2004 07:12 am
Yeah, I loved acting Very Happy. Especially as Beatrice & Ariel.


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Col Man
 
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Reply Sat 21 Aug, 2004 07:28 am
beatrice? ariel?
well all i remember is the ship and the wreck and the island and the magician and not much more
much magic and things.....
hmm i dont know mate about reading that sort of thing.. maybe i will.. im too busy enjoying this moment..this now...
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drom et reve
 
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Reply Sat 21 Aug, 2004 08:07 am
Ariel was the airy spirit in The Tempest, the opposite of Caliban and the magician, Prospero, 's assistant on the island... a spellbinding character to play. Ariel can also throw voices, which meant that she could foil the ridiculous drunks' conspiracy against Prosp.

Beatrice is the lead character in Much Ado About Nothing, probably the wittiest in all of Shakespeare. She 'had rather hear [her] dog bark at a crow, than a man swear he loves [her.]' She engages in a war of wit with Benedick, whom she pretends to dislike and who pretends to dislike her-- but both are fascinated with each other, which is why they mention the other all the time.

She'd put him down because he did:

Don Pedro: Come, lady, come, you have lost the heart of Signor Benedick.

Beatrice: Indeed, my lord, he lent it me awhile, and I gave him use for it, a double heart for his single one. Marry, once before he won it of me with
false dice, therefore your grace may well say I have lost it.

Don Pedro: You have put him down, lady, you have put him down.
;

Messenger I see, lady, the gentleman [Benedick] is not in your books.

Beatrice No; an he were, I would burn my study.


So the people around them trick them into thinking that the other loves them... and they end up in a wonderful relationship.

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