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700 Inconsistencies in the Bible

 
 
vikorr
 
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Tue 5 Apr, 2022 09:21 pm
@bulmabriefs144,
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"In charge" ... as an anarchist.
Alright then - not a ruler / king. That disagrees with what you wrote previously, but your explanation (if we leave out what you said previously) is fine (even if I disagree with it).

I don't think of God as an anarchist though.
The Anointed
 
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Tue 5 Apr, 2022 09:54 pm
@bulmabriefs144,
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Yet scientists have never been able to conclude black holes actually exist,[/quote]

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2282431-weve-caught-a-black-hole-devouring-a-neutron-star-for-the-first-time/
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bulmabriefs144
 
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Wed 6 Apr, 2022 03:14 am
@vikorr,
Of course you don't. Most atheists worship the state. That's why characters like Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and Lil Kim are all chosen in predominantly atheist countries. When people don't believe in God, the state is able to use fear tactics on them to get them to worship that as gods. North Korean propaganda claims that Kim il-Sung once crossed a river by walking on fallen leaves (among other miracles). Yes, literally stealing the idea from Jesus. But Jesus, last I saw didn't put anyone to death for not paying their taxes.

In fact, Jesus is on record saying this:
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24 When Jesus and the others arrived in Capernaum, the collectors for the temple tax came to Peter and asked, “Does your teacher pay the temple tax?”
25 “Yes, he does,” Peter answered.
After they had returned home, Jesus went up to Peter and asked him, “Simon, what do you think? Do the kings of this earth collect taxes and fees from their own people or from foreigners?”
26 Peter answered, “From foreigners.”
Jesus replied, “Then their own people don't have to pay. 27 But we don't want to cause trouble. So go cast a line into the lake and pull out the first fish you hook. Open its mouth, and you will find a coin. Use it to pay your taxes and mine.”


Stinky fish money.

They like to quote the "Render unto Caesar" one, because it's easier to misconstrue. But that one is the same message.
https://mises.org/wire/render-unto-caesar-most-misunderstood-new-testament-passage

In countries where faith is paramount, personal freedoms are also paramount.
Hungary and Poland? Not going along with open border nonsense like the rest of EU. Defied COVID rules, illness be damned.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9142789/Hundreds-tourist-trade-businesses-DEFY-Covid-lockdown-rules-say-reopen-Poland.html
https://themillenniumreport.com/2019/03/hungarys-pm-orban-defies-eu-migration-mandate/

You either follow God, or you worship the state. So yeah, God is at odds with a big state, and predominantly Christian countries understand this. God rules this world. But God is not "in charge". And I am glad of it.
The Anointed
 
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Wed 6 Apr, 2022 03:38 pm
@bulmabriefs144,
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You either follow God, or you worship the state.


But which God should they follow bulma? The God who inspired his prophets to record his words and his prophecies of future coming events, prophets such as Jesus, who spoke of the Goats who were under Gods curse and were divided from the righteous sheep before being sent away to the eternal fire that was prepared for the devil and his messengers? Or the imaginary god of your creation?

bulmabriefs144
 
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Wed 6 Apr, 2022 08:45 pm
@The Anointed,
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But which God should they follow bulma?


What do I care? Refer to this passage in Joshua 24.

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14 “Now fear the Lord and serve him with all faithfulness. Throw away the gods your ancestors worshiped beyond the Euphrates River and in Egypt, and serve the Lord. 15 But if serving the Lord seems undesirable to you, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your ancestors served beyond the Euphrates, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you are living. But as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord.”


The Jews repeatedly declare they will serve the Lord, despite the fact that he is a jealous God. I will serve the God that I know, even if people around me declare him the devil.

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What good is it for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul?


When you "gain the whole world" you are trying to make people happy. But God will not necessarily be happy with people-pleasing.

And in regards to the other concern...

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20Then Jesus went home, and once again a crowd gathered, so that He and His disciples could not even eat. 21When His family heard about this, they went out to take custody of Him, saying, “He is out of His mind.”

22And the scribes who had come down from Jerusalem were saying, “He is possessed by Beelzebul,” and, “By the prince of the demons He drives out demons.”

23So Jesus called them together and began to speak to them in parables: “How can Satan drive out Satan? 24If a kingdom is divided against itself, it cannot stand. 25If a house is divided against itself, it cannot stand. 26And if Satan is divided and rises against himself, he cannot stand; his end has come. 27Indeed, no one can enter a strong man’s house to steal his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man. Then he can plunder his house.


You can call this God that I worship a demon if you want, but know this. If you speak evil of Jesus's purpose, you are blaspheming. Jesus is not a butcher. Nor is the Holy Spirit concerned with doing evil to men, or following Satan's mission of accusation.

https://aleteia.org/2021/10/26/why-satan-is-known-as-the-accuser/
https://www.compellingtruth.org/Satan-accuser.html
https://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/library/verses/id/4089/satan-as-accuser-verses.htm

This idea that Satan rules this world (God does) and that God accuses us is absolutely conflating God and Satan.
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There are indeed prophets inspired by God to write his prophecies.

But let me ask you... do all prophecies come from God?

When John Edwards does a psychic reading, telling people they look like they are a physicist, is this really God's work? What about Nostradamus and his trendy predictions, are these God's work? No!!! There are people who are very much motivated by their own ends. Some desire fame or money. Some want to ruin the fellowship of the believers. Some are evil men looking to stir up mischief.

All truth prophecies pointed to Jesus, his birth, death, and resurrection on behalf of our sins. But Jesus himself told us to stop listening to prophets that came after him, warning that they would be false prophets. A true prophet expends their energy trying to get people to live according to the Way of God. A false prophet leads people into a pit.

Consider the judgement of the Pharisees. Then consider Job. He had several men telling him that surely he neglected the poor or forgot to tithe or what have you. Now, God also put him to task when he appeared in a whirlwind. But afterwards, he trashed all of the people who told Job "you must have done something wrong." It would be better to tell people nothing, that try to convince them they are evil based on your narrow-minded and possibly wrong ideals.
The Anointed
 
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Fri 8 Apr, 2022 12:24 am
@bulmabriefs144,
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I will serve the God that I know, even if people around me declare him the devil.


Why would anyone call something that doesn't exist except in your imagination, "The Devil"? Because your god does not resemble the biblical God, in any way whatsoever.

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You can call this God that I worship a demon if you want, but know this. If you speak evil of Jesus's purpose, you are blaspheming.


Why would anyone speak evil of your female Jesus, who is non existent?

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All truth prophecies pointed to Jesus, his birth, death, and resurrection on behalf of our sins.


His or Her birth, make up your mind mate, for you have consistently said that Jesus was born a female. Would you like me to bring up those posts?

But concerning the truth prophecies, you are Correct! And those prophecies are found in the Hebrews bible and the Christians Old Testament. So, why did you edit them out, as with the book of revelations and any of the apostles that you don't agree with, in the book that you have written for your imaginary god?

You're hopeless mate, totally hopeless. Not worth taking to really, as you have nothing to offer.

bulmabriefs144
 
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Fri 8 Apr, 2022 07:00 am
@The Anointed,
God doesn't exist? Your "God" only exists in a distorted idea of the Bible.

You have built up a perfect idea of God in your mind. But God in the Bible is very human. He has temper tantrums. Fits of jealousy. He burns towns that piss him off to the ground.

https://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/25/an-imperfect-god/

The Hebrews showed an imperfect God, not a perfect one.

Yoy keep harping on the female Jesus. Jesus comes to us in a form that is comfortable.
https://yt3.ggpht.com/a/AATXAJxw3uH4OlAFg8hYTxHPgf_zuGFEiTfg6KB5tz1h=s900-c-k-c0xffffffff-no-rj-mo
In Korea, Jesus is always depicted as Korean.

But you've focused on this image, and forgotten that Jesus is simply Jesus.

And you've denied him before me.
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...but whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven.


The atheists on the Atheist thread have that same dismissive attitude. This is bot how Christians are to behave. A pastor once gave me a long sermon about how the world believes in conditional worth. "You are good enough if... " If you make six figures, if you are attractive, if you have the right connections. The way of Christ is intrinsic worth. "You are good enough. Period."

Why is it even worth talking to me? Because I'm a human being dammit, that's why! And no, stupid dogmatic teachings don't mean as much as you think they do.

The Bible didn't say, "Get this right! God is a man not a woman, Jesus is a man not a woman. Women can't be the Savior." If I am in a burning building and my friend Emily is standing outside, she would rescue me whether she's a woman or not. She would save me.
The Anointed
 
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Fri 8 Apr, 2022 07:41 pm
@bulmabriefs144,
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God doesn't exist? Your "God" only exists in a distorted idea of the Bible.


So says the high priestess of her female god and her only begotten daughter 'Jesus' according to the written word of bulma.

We'll say no more.
bulmabriefs144
 
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Fri 8 Apr, 2022 11:11 pm
@The Anointed,
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We'll say no more.


Actually, let's.

Let's talk about adoptionism. Let's talk about how your Jesus isn't even the Jesus mentioned in the Gospel.

One minor change? The gender of Jesus? No bearing on the Gospel itself.

Or one major change, turning Jesus from the rightful heir and Son of God into a freak of incest, the son of Mary and Heli. A man who only becomes "Son of God" in his thirties after an adult baptism.
You further endorse this false Jesus from Revelation.

Then you condemn other people for not sharing your assessment of God. Excuse me, could I have your attention? This is what the ACTUAL Bible says about God.
Psalm 103 wrote:
8The LORD is compassionate and gracious,
slow to anger, abounding in loving devotion.
9He will not always accuse us,
nor harbor His anger forever.
10He has not dealt with us according to our sins
or repaid us according to our iniquities.


Romans 12 wrote:
Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord. On the contrary: ‘If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.’ Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

(And this is more or less a quote from Jesus.

So then why is this happening? (From Revelation)
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I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war. His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. Coming out of his mouth is a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. “He will rule them with an iron scepter.” He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written: King of kings and Lord of lords.

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And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, ‘Come, gather together for the great supper of God, so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and the mighty, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, great and small.


Either the whole part about the Bible where God is portrayed as forgiving and just is wrong, or someone added in a book that is at odds with the core message of the Bible.
Oh sure, you say, these are wicked people. The righteous will go to a new heaven & earth where all will be well, and there will be crystal water and trees with all sorts of fruit and lemme stop you there.
No one is worthy enough. If God were to judge only the righteous there would be none of us who would be able to stand. But for God's forgiveness and grace, all of us are doomed.

Psalm 130 wrote:
1Out of the depths
I cry to You, O LORD!
2O Lord, hear my voice;
let Your ears be attentive to my plea for mercy.
3If You, O LORD, kept track of iniquities,
then who, O Lord, could stand?

4But with You there is forgiveness,
so that You may be feared.

5I wait for the LORD; my soul does wait,
and in His word I put my hope.
6My soul waits for the Lord
more than watchmen wait for the morning—
more than watchmen wait for the morning.
7O Israel, put your hope in the LORD,
for with the LORD is loving devotion,
and with Him is redemption in abundance
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8And He will redeem Israel
from all iniquity.


And this.

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9What then? Are we any better? Not at all. For we have already made the charge that Jews and Greeks alike are all under sin. 10As it is written:

“There is no one righteous,
not even one.
11There is no one who understands,
no one who seeks God.
12All have turned away,
they have together become worthless;
there is no one who does good,
not even one.”

13“Their throats are open graves;
their tongues practice deceit.”
“The venom of vipers is on their lips.”
14“Their mouths are full
of cursing and bitterness.”

15“Their feet are swift to shed blood;
16ruin and misery lie in their wake,
17and the way of peace they have not known.”
18“There is no fear of God
before their eyes.”

19Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20Therefore no one will be justified in His sight by works of the law. For the law merely brings awareness of sin.

21But now, apart from the law, the righteousness of God has been revealed, as attested by the Law and the Prophets. 22 And this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no distinction, 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.

25God presented Him as the atoning sacrifice through faith in His blood, in order to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance He had passed over the sins committed beforehand
. 26He did this to demonstrate His righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and to justify the one who has faith in Jesus.

27Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. On what principle? On that of works? No, but on that of faith. 28For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the law.


We cannot ever be worthy of the law, yet God extends grace to us. Why then is this "same God" having his "Son" wear a robe of blood and eat the flesh of kings? Why then is Revelation basically rejecting the idea of grace in favor of a text where people are punished for what they do?

Which a bigger blasphemy? To see Jesus in the form He has appeared to some people? Or to see Jesus as a mortal and later as a psychopath?
The Anointed
 
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Sat 9 Apr, 2022 12:31 am
@bulmabriefs144,
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Actually, let's.


Actually, we will say no more to one who is so mentally confused, and we will cease to waste valuable time, on one who does not have the intelligence to comprehend the Holy Scripture, or simply does not wish to understand, and has totally rejected the words of the Lord.

But I will start a new thread in order to reveal to those in search of the truth, that Jesus was the man chosen as the visible earthly temple in which our Lord God and savior, “THE SON OF MAN” revealed himself to the world and the awesome sacrifice that he makes for the salvation of mankind, but not the salvation of every human being.

If you respond to anything in the new thread, your post will be ignored by me with the contempt that it deserves, I will not allow this new thread to be derailed by your verbal dysentery.

Until I have the time to begin the new thread, no, change that, from this moment on you will be ignored.
bulmabriefs144
 
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Sat 9 Apr, 2022 05:18 am
@The Anointed,
Yeah, whatever, start a new thread.
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