Does anyone here believe the world is roughly 6000 years old?

@Fil Albuquerque,

I never vote you down.
You ALWAYS give me food for thought, fil.
Not sure if altruistic prose is indent purpose, but we can chew on that, time permitting.

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@mark noble,

then here the hell were you going with G t if not with the "aliens". YOU are the one who posted a "belief" in pansperimia , as if its some scientific study. Its merely a hypothesis withot any evidence or cause (yet).
I have no idea whether it may be possible. pr probable. As a workaday scientist, I have limits of conjecture that are clearly defined by the walls of evidence. So whatever your points on Gobekli tepe, Id love to hear em.

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@Fil Albuquerque,

when ere you down posted? I dont believe in the whole thing of "voting". Kinda childish really,
If we disagree , so what? Do I need to count cards? I have no idea of its use. Some people love it , others think it dumb. Im in the latter group. Im only answering cause its better to duke it out on some topic. I just joined in this mid morning out of boredom and inbetween doses of pain meds.
Ive now dumped all the pain meds down th drain because they are all a synthetic opioids ( "hillbilly heroin") .

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@mark noble,

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Some fella (victorian) Irish, if I recollect, (unimportant) counted the geneological timeframe
of the OT and it added up to, roughly, 3750 bc (bce).
Personally I believe the universe (This one) is between 14 and 20 billion yrs old - Earth is 4.5 billion years old, and humans were, panspermically introduced about 230,000 yrs ago.
After the 12,800 yr ago 4-part comt-frag impact that melted the northern icecaps - Much is recorded - But not current public knowledge.
Gobelki tepe.
Smile

Heres what you posted. It sure sounded like you were going the "aliens did it" route.

As far as Im concerened , the one astrobleme that whacked the earth and contains anything of a data bag about life in space is the Murchison meteorite an wed need to spend a week qnd a day on the chemistry alone.

INGREDIENTS can come from outer space, inducing future chemical reactions to proceed in similar fashions. BUT that is a pice of hard evidence that still does not say that LIFE was pqnspermially introduced. We have lotsa evidence of amino cids and purines and pyrimidines in stellar spectra. These are stable over the length of several TRILLION years from spectral traverse across our own galaxy. Thats evidence that these chemicals ARE NOT unstable s the Fundies claim

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@farmerman,

Why do you think 'panspermia' requires alien intervention?
You would have an idea if the info was available to you.
And science couldn't confirm the existence of nanoparticles until the electron-microscope was developed.
Where is your 'counter-evidence'?
tepe is 11,600 yrs old, pyramids are 10,000 yrs old - History is manufactured to lead you to the trough for your pigswill.
You figured out the 'measurement-problem'? No. Because it requires lateral thought.
Please.

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@farmerman,

Hey hey I was joking Farma !
Didn't you noticed the drama tone ?
I know ya prolly think I've a lousy sense of humour but not that lousy I assure you. I don't disagree with you I deliberately tipped Leadfoot into a fighting chance out of playing devil's advocate. It doesn't mean I am giving credit to the bible. Hence my comment on setting the thread on fire. And yes votes are silly.

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@mark noble,

Panspermia is an interesting hypothesis...at least its quite elegant and appealing...maybe the whole thing started out in Mars...now I don't know much about microbial surviving crashes in X given types of meteorites materials with precision. Nonetheless the rate of death so I've heard is about 99.9%.

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@farmerman,

I'm not disputing organisms developing via chemical mechanisms, here on earth.
I'm saying - I believe it was tampered with during that process.
Not by ......... aliens - Potentially by US!

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@mark noble,

check please!

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@Fil Albuquerque,

You're looking for rhyme or reason here :-)

Noble proposes panspermia for humans then disavows aliens.
It's amazing anyone can follow these threads...

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@Leadfoot,

Next thing Nibiru is coming, just wait long enough... Mr. Green

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Americans badly need to improve their scientific sense:
Better check out Gallop Poll before asking questions
4 in 10 Americans Believe God Created Earth
http://news.discovery.com/human/life/4-in-10-americans-believe-god-created-earth-10000-years-ago-140606.htm

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I challenge every European that shows in this thread to express his belief either in a God creator of Earth, or Adam and Eve, or the time line of the Earth...Please give your contribution.

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I challenge every European that shows in this thread to express his belief either in a God creator of Earth, or Adam and Eve, or the time line of the Earth...Please give your contribution. Be fair, if you exist and are around get in and speak, be as loud as any other poster around. Lets not raise any doubt Europeans are shy hypocrites who cant speak their mind when it comes to religious belief.

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@Fil Albuquerque,

Fil Albuquerque wrote:

Lets not raise any doubt Europeans are shy hypocrites who cant speak their mind when it comes to religious belief.

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As a rule Europeans do not believe the world is 6000 years old.
But many many Europeans seak spirituality either in Christianity, Buddhism or other forms for spirituality.
Stop making fun of a side of Europeans you do not seem to know about.

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@Robert Gentel,

Robert Gentel wrote:

. . . we also have to ignore that light and night and day somehow appear before the sun. . .

Or, before the sun appeared through the dense atmosphere of early earth.

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For that matter, why did God not instruct Moses in the principles of microbiology? It would have made health regulations so much easier to understand.

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@saab,

In the Confession during the chruchservice we say we believe in God the creator of earth and heaven.
This does not mean we believe in daily life - but it is part of our churchlife.

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@saab,

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This does not mean we believe in daily life - but it is part of our churchlife.

Does that really work for you?
I've never been comfortable with 'compartmentalization'.

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