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The TRUTH about the TRUE God

 
 
manden
 
Mon 25 Jan, 2016 07:48 am
After about 12 years " r i g h t " study , I have first results :

I know that the TRUE God exists , what is recognizable about him ,

and what the mankind has to do here .

The TRUE God is the real creator of the universe , more of himself is

not recognizable , and he is NOT God of any religion !
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Leadfoot
 
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Mon 25 Jan, 2016 08:10 am
So - What is it we gotta do? And Why?
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sunnylubby
 
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Mon 25 Jan, 2016 09:27 am
@manden,
Which one is it? Who is the god? What is it made out of? What is it's form?
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manden
 
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Mon 25 Jan, 2016 09:49 am
I wrote , who is the right (true) God .
And what we have to do , follows out of his existence .
You must only think with exact simple logic !
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manden
 
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Mon 25 Jan, 2016 11:00 am
Perhaps exact simple logic is difficult for you .
Out of the existence of the real creator of the universe follows logically ,
that we have to treat his creation as well as possible -
to learn to live together with it - men and nature - in real harmony ( about
loving , responsible , sharing ) .
And why ? Because the real creator wants it - he knows exactly what is the
best for us , of course .
Leadfoot
 
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Mon 25 Jan, 2016 03:04 pm
@manden,
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And why ? Because the real creator wants it - he knows exactly what is the best for us , of course .
Isn't that what my mom used to say when I asked why?

Surely you can do better than 'Because I said so'.

Follow up question: So why did he make us? Put another way, What's in it for HIM?

So far you seem to be saying it's just so he has someone to boss around. You gotta do better than that.
manden
 
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Tue 26 Jan, 2016 06:32 am
@Leadfoot,
Are you really so megalomaniac that you think , you can think like the creator
of the universe ?
We can learn do know , what we need .
But for that this mankind is till now too corrupt .
TRY TO CHANGE !
Leadfoot
 
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Tue 26 Jan, 2016 08:22 am
@manden,
Quote:
Are you really so megalomaniac that you think , you can think like the creator of the universe ?
Are you so full of false modesty that you are unable to realize that you were created with a consciousness able to comprehend the purposes of the creator?

If I really was created as limited and corrupt as you (and organized religion) seem to think, then my only request of the creator would be - "Please kill me Now".
Amoh5
 
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Wed 27 Jan, 2016 08:24 am
@Leadfoot,
Hi there Leadfoot, I think the only way to understand, or recognise the true God, the creator of the universe is through Lord Jesus which he declared absolutely, "No one comes to the Father except through me" I can't figure out what spiritual medium Manden is using to comprehend the creator? Himself? Lord Jesus? I don't think he's said anything about his spiritual medium, not that I know of anyway.
Leadfoot
 
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Wed 27 Jan, 2016 11:35 am
@Amoh5,
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I can't figure out what spiritual medium Manden is using to comprehend the creator? Himself? Lord Jesus? I don't think he's said anything about his spiritual medium, not that I know of anyway.
Its a good question, but all I wanted him to explain was the logic and reason behind his revelation, regardless of the source. In my experience, if the source is valid, the revelation will make sense. If it doesn't make sense, it makes no difference what source the person claims.

Didn't Jesus say there would be many false prophets who would come in his name?
Amoh5
 
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Wed 27 Jan, 2016 10:26 pm
@Leadfoot,
Yes, Lord Jesus did say that. But for me, if the source is not Lord Jesus then there is no useful reason or logic. I don't have any confidence in Manden's interpretation of God because he hasn't mentioned Lord Jesus as his spiritual medium. He says some good things though, but I dont think he really knows the true creator, not according to Lord Jesus anyway.
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manden
 
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Mon 1 Feb, 2016 01:01 pm
This mankind is too corrupt and ill to be able to recognize that the real creator of the universe exists and what he wants from us !
Instead of they worship the false Gods of the manmade religions or only
themselves !
With OPEN EYES you can see the result since many milleniums !
But who of this mankind is able to OPEN his eyes !
I know nobody else !
Leadfoot
 
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Mon 1 Feb, 2016 02:11 pm
@manden,
So you are saying that you alone are not corrupt (not part of mankind) and able to 'open your eyes'?

Bold claim dude!
And just how do you know you are the only one?

PS: This is a pretty stressful existence and many crack under the strain.

As a good song once said:
"Take it easy, Take it Easy,
Don't let the sound of your own wheels,
Drive you crazy..."
manden
 
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Mon 1 Feb, 2016 03:58 pm
@Leadfoot,
I am also corrupt , because I am a member of the mankind , but I could
solve so far , that I can recognize the recognizable truth about the real creator
of the universe and to open my eyes .
Leadfoot
 
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Mon 1 Feb, 2016 05:10 pm
@manden,
And you think you are alone in that because...?

I probably have as well developed an ego as anyone here, but I am unable to convince myself that I'm the only one who 'sees God'.

I'm not a Jehovah's Witness but just for a moment let's pretend that they are right about the number of people who can see and 'get it'. That's 144,000.

If we divide the number of people who have lived on the earth (about 110,000,000,000 so far) that's about 1 out of every 78,000 people who opened their eye's and 'see'.

I, being an introvert, have perhaps met only 2000 people in my entire life. Out of those, I only known perhaps 50 of them well enough to have any hope of knowing their real beliefs about God. People tend to hold those thoughts pretty close to the vest.

So if the JW's are right, the chances of each of my acquaintances being one of those 144,000 is 1 in 78,000. So, That's about 50 chances in 78,000 or 1 chance in 1,560. Better chance than winning the lottery, but given the odds, definitely not good enough to say that I'm the only one (assuming I'm one of the 1 in 78,000 who gets it to begin with ).

So - what is your theory for determining that you're the only one?

Edit: I realized that I grossly overstated the chances of me meeting one of the people who 'See'. My calculations assumed that all 144,000 were alive during my lifetime which is of course, not true. Correcting for that error. my chance of meeting another 'seer' is only 1 in 25,514.
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manden
 
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Fri 5 Feb, 2016 11:34 am
I can see almost no chance in this mankind , that a man ( like me) could come
near to the real creator of the universe . The religions are too far away and
this world also - the thinking of the people .
Harry Blake
 
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Fri 5 Feb, 2016 09:58 pm
@manden,
said- "The religions are too far away"
---------------------------------------------------

Yes, we don't need them to do our thinking for us, that's why Jesus reminded us-
"You have one teacher, me" (Matt 23:10)
manden
 
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Mon 8 Feb, 2016 11:44 am
@Harry Blake,
The teaching of Jesus is in the bible and the bible belongs to the religions .
And the teaching of Jesus is only partly right . Of course he was a (normal) man with errors .
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Leadfoot
 
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Mon 8 Feb, 2016 03:27 pm
@manden,
Quote:
I can see almost no chance in this mankind , that a man ( like me) could come
near to the real creator of the universe . The religions are too far away and
this world also - the thinking of the people .
So to what factor do you attribute the miraculous understanding that you have achieved?
manden
 
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Tue 9 Feb, 2016 12:15 pm
@Leadfoot,
The real creator of the universe has made the possibility that a human being
could be able sometime to recognize his EXISTENCE inspite of that this
mankind is corrupt , ill and (almost) godless . That is the miracle .
I am this one , it could have everybody else .
 

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