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Brexit. Why do Brits want Out of the EU?

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 7 Jul, 2022 07:27 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Ireland’s taoiseach has urged Boris Johnson, in use his final days as prime minister, to pull back from unilateral action over Northern Ireland and Brexit and investigations into killings during the troubles.

In a statement following the PM’s resignation, Micheál Martin said he wanted to extend best wishes to Johnson and his family in the wake of a “difficult few weeks”.

But he said it was not too late to reconsider legislation to unpick the Northern Ireland protocol or legislation going through the house on “legacy” killings by police or army in Northern Ireland.

He said the plan had meant recent relations between the two governments had “been strained and challenged”. He went on:

I would once again urge a pulling back from unilateral action, whether that be on dealing with the legacy of the past, human rights, or the Northern Ireland protocol.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 7 Jul, 2022 08:23 am
Reports in the Mirror and Bloomberg are suggesting that Johnson is clinging on so that he can continue to have access to Chequers for the summer. (The PM and his wife Carrie Johnson have a wedding party planned at Chequers later this month.)
izzythepush
 
  1  
Thu 7 Jul, 2022 08:40 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Of course. He's crap with money, constantly relying on donors and the public purse to foot the bill for him.
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izzythepush
 
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Thu 7 Jul, 2022 09:18 am
What's interesting is the international reaction.

The Kremlin are trying to make out that Johnson's support collapsed because he took on Russia.

The reality is that following the invasion of Ukraine, Rusdia is about the only thing Johnson got right.

And there will not be any change in policy towards Russia regardless of who takes over from Johnson.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 7 Jul, 2022 09:33 am
The UK's "current caretaker prime minister" is ... Boris Johnson.
lmur
 
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Thu 7 Jul, 2022 03:01 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Rumur* has it that he misunderstood and thought he was 're-signing' rather than resigning!

*not a rumour
izzythepush
 
  1  
Thu 7 Jul, 2022 03:12 pm
@lmur,
In all honesty we con't know how many children he has.

That was the case before he entered politics.

He was always bloody dishonest.
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McGentrix
 
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Thu 7 Jul, 2022 03:42 pm
@lmur,
lmur wrote:

Rumur* has it that he misunderstood and thought he was 're-signing' rather than resigning!

*not a rumour


Laughing
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 13 Jul, 2022 10:20 pm
The new Northern Ireland Secretary described the legislation that would scrap parts of the Irish Sea trading arrangements as a ‘last resort’.

Government giving ‘100% attention’ to NI Protocol Bill, Vara insists
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The Government is giving “100% attention” to its legislation on the Northern Ireland Protocol despite the Tory leadership race, the region’s Secretary of State has insisted.

Shailesh Vara was commenting as the contentious Bill that would empower ministers to override aspects of the post-Brexit trading arrangements was again debated at Westminster.

Day one of the committee stage of the Bill’s progression through Parliament was heard as Conservative MPs cast their votes in the first round of the contest to replace Prime Minister Boris Johnson.

Mr Vara, speaking to reporters outside, insisted the Bill was not being forgotten about.

“It is receiving 100% attention,” he said.

“Yes, the Conservative Party is in the process of electing a new leader but that is not to say that legislation is not continuing, as it rightly does both for Northern Ireland and the rest of the United Kingdom.”

Powersharing in Northern Ireland is in limbo after the DUP blocked the formation of a devolved executive following May’s election in protest at the protocol.

Unionists and loyalists are enraged at trade arrangements that have resulted in new checks on goods moving between Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

The protocol was agreed by the UK and EU as part of the Brexit Withdrawal Agreement but the Government’s controversial legislative move would effectively scrap the bulk of the arrangements.

Mr Vara, who replaced Brandon Lewis as secretary of state last week, insisted triggering the legislation remained a “last resort” and the Government’s preferred option was to find a negotiated solution with the EU that would cut red tape on Irish Sea trade.

He said “communication and engagement” would be key to finding a resolution.

“I think most political parties and many of the business community and individuals in Northern Ireland recognise that the system that we have at the moment is not working correctly and they all recognise that there ought to be some change,” he said.

“And what we are prepared to do and very happy to do, and indeed have been trying to do, is to engage and the UK Government has been engaging with the EU to try and take a common sense approach and move forward.

“Sadly, however, whilst people are saying they want to engage in dialogue and conversation and this should be a negotiated settlement, sadly when you sit at the table, the response is sometimes ‘well, sorry, but you know, you’ve signed up to this, so we’re going to have to get on with it’.

“So, if that attitude prevails, then I’m afraid the people of Northern Ireland will not get the common sense approach that I want.

“So, what I want to do is for everyone to recognise that what is there at the moment is not working, and we need to talk and make it work and this (the Bill) is a last resort, but you know we are determined that if it’s necessary we will pass that legislation, because it’s in the interest of the nearly 1.9 million people in Northern Ireland.”

Speaking during the first day of the Bill’s committee stage, DUP leader Sir Jeffrey Donaldson said the legislation would lead to the restoration of devolved government in Northern Ireland.

He added: “I’m absolutely convinced of that and my party has stated clearly that if this Bill becomes law, we believe that provides the basis for restoring the political institutions in Northern Ireland, including the executive, and I’ve already committed to leave this place and to return to Stormont as the deputy first minister as part of that executive.

“Therefore I have a personal commitment to the restoration of the political institutions, as does my party.”

Senior Conservative MPs also called on ministers to allow the Commons to consider any reasons for disapplying parts of the agreement in future.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 14 Jul, 2022 08:42 am
Fears extra expense and paperwork caused by Brexit will make Britain unattractive to global drugmakers
UK approved fewer new drugs than EU and US in year after Brexit transition
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Fears extra expense and paperwork caused by Brexit will make Britain unattractive to global drugmakers

The UK approved fewer new medicines than the EU and the US in 2021, the first year after the end of the Brexit transition period, researchers at Imperial College London have found.

Their analysis shows that only 35 new drugs were approved for use in the UK by the country’s medicines regulator last year, compared with 40 approvals in the EU and 52 in the US.
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All novel medicines in the UK have to be vetted and approved by the UK’s Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) since the start of 2021, when the country left the European Medicines Agency (EMA), the EU drugs regulator, on the back of the Brexit vote.

The EMA moved from London to Amsterdam in March 2019, closing its office in Canary Wharf, east London, that employed 900 people.

This means pharmaceutical companies have to spend more money and face extra paperwork to get new medicines approved in the EU and UK.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Fri 15 Jul, 2022 07:56 am
More than two years after the Brexit, economic relations between Germany and Great Britain are apparently shivering. Lower Saxony's Prime Minister Weil has just learned this: offer rejected - British reject partnership with Hannover Messe ("Hannover Fair").

It looks as if the governing Conservative party is currently shying away from getting too close to the German economy, for electoral reasons: Pro-European signals could possibly alienate Tory voters.
Builder
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2022 01:15 am
@Walter Hinteler,
What the EU has done, and is still doing, to the people of Greece, should be sounding alarm bells in every EU nation.

Get the hell outta there.

Brexit is just the beginning of the end.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2022 03:57 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:
Brexit is just the beginning of the end.
At least if it's done like the Conservatives want it.
However, it might be the end of the UK as we know it even with a different party in the government.
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izzythepush
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2022 10:00 am
Emily Thornbury, grassroots fabourite, has been edged out by Tory MPs.

Rishi Sunak's supporters made sure the lamentably awful Liz Truss is their opponant.

She campaigned for Remain,but has said that if there was a vote today she would vote for Brexit.

That's right, she really is that thick.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2022 10:08 am
@izzythepush,
I can't decide which is the worse of the two.
Mame
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2022 10:09 am
@izzythepush,
Everything's going to hell in a hand basket. I don't have much optimism any more.
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izzythepush
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2022 10:11 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Truss is the worst, but she's more likely to lose the next election.
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InfraBlue
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2022 02:27 pm
So, since the next PM is going to be selected by the MPs in Parliament, what is the purpose of the televised debates? Is it to influence the MP's constituents to petition them to vote for the candidates they favor?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2022 10:25 pm
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:

So, since the next PM is going to be selected by the MPs in Parliament,
Not really: the Conservative MPs select the (two) candidates, then the card-carrying Conservative party members the party leader and thus the new PM.
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izzythepush
 
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Thu 21 Jul, 2022 01:15 am
@InfraBlue,
Sunak's camp made sure Thornberry didn't make it to the last two because she's popular with the grassroots.

Truss is an incompetent, promoted way above her ability to be foreign secretary let alone pm.

In any event, the next prime minister will be decided by less than 0.05% of the population.
 

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