@Walter Hinteler,
It has been the second biggest demo in a century, crowds stretched so far back that plenty of people never even made it to the rally.
@Walter Hinteler,
Picture worth a thousand words.
This may sound controversial but she's got a point. This also illustrates how nationalist anger builds up due to Brexit. Europe was built to avoid that.
Quote:I Didn’t Hate the English — Until Now
In which an Irish woman discovers how little the people who shaped her country’s fate know or care.
By Megan Nolan, Oct. 18, 2018
[...]Sure, there were occasional moments of idiocy, like when I made a mistake at work and a colleague responded by putting on a comic Irish accent and doing a bumbling-peasant impression. Sure, the English still loved to make the occasional potato joke. (You know the one: Ha-ha, you guys love potatoes — remember, the things that all rotted before a million of you died of starvation?) And yes, it was consistently surprising how many English people were shocked and offended to discover that an Irish person might feel some animosity toward their country.
But there was an idea not so long ago, even among many Irish, that it was time to move on. We were all going to be European together forever, after all, and we ought to at least try to smooth over our differences.
Post-Brexit, however, this relatively recent sense of equanimity is being put to the test.
The extent to which many English people are ignorant about Ireland has become painfully clear. Crucial questions about how to avoid a hard border between Northern Ireland and the Republic — a border abolished in the Good Friday Agreement, the reintroduction of which would be inextricably associated with the preceding decades of violence and unrest — remain unresolved, months before Brexit is slated to become official. [...]
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/18/opinion/england-ireland-border-brexit.html
@Olivier5,
At least you guys aren't talking about a border fence like (idiot) Trump. Brexit is such a bad idea in so many ways, it's surprising to see it become so controversial. I think many people need to learn some lessons on free trade and open markets, and why that's preferable to creating border "walls" on trade.
@cicerone imposter,
[url"https://www.hamburg.de/pressearchiv-fhh/11749090/2018-10-22-pr-brexit/]
"Hope for the best, prepare for the worst"[/url] is the title of a press release by the Hamburg Senate (state government).
In the course of its Brexit preparations, Hamburg is also increasingly preparing for a "no deal" scenario. After the sobering outcome of the negotiations last week, the Senate sees itself forced to "focus even more intensively on an unregulated Brexit".
Preparations have been underway for months. "The Hamburg administration is preparing for the departure of Great Britain and the affected persons are being supported in their preparations for the Brexit."
@Walter Hinteler,
The above link fixed:
"Hope for the best, prepare for the worst" is the title of a press release by the Hamburg Senate (state government).
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In Parliament today, Theresa May tells MPs to 'hold their nerve' and insists that the Brexit deal is close ... amid leadership threats.
Farmers in the UK are pushing to rename the Brussels sprout, in light of the Brexit results.
London sprout is leading the polls.
In some respects the EU is becoming more and more like the Habsburg Empire. Maria Theresa, was for her time, a very enlightened ruler, but she was not able to achieve 'ever closer union' either. The Poles and the Galicians gave here a lot of trouble too.
It was Friedrich II of Prussia who gave her the troubles from which the Empire subsequently suffered, in the two Silesian wars.
You can read about them by clicking here; the so-called third Silesian War as actually just a theater in the greater Seven Years War. As for Galicia and Poland, those two disappeared in the three partitions which eventually resulted in the complete disappearance of Poland. If by giving her a lot of trouble, you mean that they did not cheerfully accept being carved up by Prussia, Austria and Russia, that might pass muster. The HRE actually expanded its territory under Maria Teresa and, after 1745, her husband, the Emperor Francis I. Maria was the real ruler. Francis was a financial wizard, but would have been hopeless ruling the Empire had Maria not been there to do that. Silesia had provided 20% or 25% of the revenue to the Empire before Friedrich took it away from the Empire. Her problems were with Prussia, not Poland or Galicia--which explains how Kaunitz was able to engineer the coalition which attacked Prussia, and in reality, Friedrich personally, in what we call the Seven Years War.
@Setanta,
No argument there. I was referring to her internal troubles and difficulties integrating the nobles and landed aristocracies of Hungary and Galicia in particular into the empire and in modernizing their societies, by ending various forms of serfdom (In Galicia particularly) and limited political voice (in Hungary).
@Builder,
Poor fellows. Next thing they will talk of freedom fries...
@georgeob1,
When that happened, the Habsburg dominions had already declined
But when you look where (in Switzerland) they started to built their empire (around 1200) ...
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:Transport secretary Chris Grayling reportedly discussed the possibility of hiring entire ships, or securing cargo space in vessels, to bring food, medicines and other supplies in through alternative ports.
David Lidington, the cabinet office minister, told his colleagues the Dover-Calais route could only run at a maximum of 25 per cent of its capacity under a no-deal scenario.
A department for transport spokesperson said: "We remain confident of reaching an agreement with the EU, but it is only sensible for government and industry to prepare for a range of scenarios.
"We are continuing to work closely with partners on contingency plans to ensure that trade can continue to move as freely as possible between the UK and Europe."
Labour MP David Lammy, who is pushing for Britain to stay in the European Union, said: "Brexit has become like a declaration of war on ourselves. Emergency ships will be chartered for food and medicine if we leave the EU with no deal.
"But at least when we're using ration books and running out of drugs, we'll have taken back control."
Theresa May has ordered weekly updates for her senior ministers on preparations for EU withdrawal either with or without a deal.
The Independent
As said earlier this year, the European countries already have hired new custom officers, especially for the ports.
A very clever analogy of Brexit 👍
LEAVER: I want an omelette.
REMAINER: Right. It’s just we haven’t got any eggs.
LEAVER: Yes, we have. There they are. [HE POINTS AT A CAKE]
REMAINER: They’re in the cake.
LEAVER: Yes, get them out of the cake, please.
REMAINER: But we voted in 1974 to put them into a cake.
LEAVER: Yes, but that cake has got icing on it. Nobody said there was going to be icing on it.
REMAINER: Icing is good.
LEAVER: And there are raisins in it. I don’t like raisins. Nobody mentioned raisins. I demand another vote.
DAVID CAMERON ENTERS.
DAVID CAMERON: OK.
DAVID CAMERON SCARPERS.
LEAVER: Right, where’s my omelette?
REMAINER: I told you, the eggs are in the cake.
LEAVER: Well, get them out.
EU: It’s our cake.
JEREMY CORBYN: Yes, get them out now.
REMAINER: I have absolutely no idea how to get them out. Don’t you know how to get them out?
LEAVER: Yes! You just get them out and then you make an omelette.
REMAINER: But how?! Didn’t you give this any thought?
LEAVER: Saboteur! You’re talking eggs down. We could make omelettes before the eggs went into the cake, so there’s no reason why we can’t make them now.
THERESA MAY: It’s OK, I can do it.
REMAINER: How?
THERESA MAY: There was a vote to remove the eggs from the cake, and so the eggs will be removed from the cake.
REMAINER: Yeah, but…
LEAVER: Hang on, if we take the eggs out of the cake, does that mean we don’t have any cake? I didn’t say I didn’t want the cake, just the bits I don’t like.
EU: It’s our cake.
REMAINER: But you can’t take the eggs out of the cake and then still have a cake.
LEAVER: You can. I saw the latest Bake Off and you can definitely make cakes without eggs in them. It’s just that they’re horrible.
REMAINER: Fine. Take the eggs out. See what happens.
LEAVER: It’s not my responsibility to take the eggs out. Get on with it.
REMAINER: Why should I have to come up with some long-winded incredibly difficult chemical process to extract eggs that have bonded at the molecular level to the cake, while somehow still having the cake?
LEAVER: You lost, get over it.
THERESA MAY: By the way, I’ve started the clock on this.
REMAINER: So I assume you have a plan?
THERESA MAY: Actually, back in a bit. Just having another election.
REMAINER: Jeremy, are you going to sort this out?
JEREMY CORBYN: Yes. No. Maybe.
EU: It’s our cake.
LEAVER: Where’s my omelette? I voted for an omelette.
REMAINER: This is ridiculous. This is never going to work. We should have another vote, or at least stop what we’re doing until we know how to get the eggs out of the cake while keeping the bits of the cake that we all like.
LEAVER/MAY/CORBYN: WE HAD A VOTE. STOP SABOTAGING THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. EGGSIT MEANS EGGSIT.
REMAINER: Fine, I’m moving to France. The cakes are nicer there.
LEAVER: You can’t. We’ve taken your freedom of movement.