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Are Veggie Dogs and Burgers Evil Doppelgangers of the Real Thing?

 
 
Real Music
 
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Reply Thu 9 Jan, 2020 09:15 pm
Road Runner finally gets caught by Wile E. Coyote.


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maturelly
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jan, 2020 12:36 am
grazzie
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jan, 2020 12:54 am
OK, call me old fashioned, but I like to actually taste veggies.....not have veggies adultered to taste like beef or chicken....blecch.....We might as well ask Purina to add People Chow to their menu.....double bleech.....whats wrong with garden tomatoes????? Fresh Corn? Zucchini?
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jan, 2020 06:58 am
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:

[W]hats wrong with garden tomatoes????? Fresh Corn? Zucchini?

Other than many people in food deserts don't have access to them? But that's a point for another discussion.

And you can eat fresh fruits and vegetables and still enjoy a veggie burger as well. They ain't mutually exclusive (diet wise).

Eating veggie dogs and/or burgers (as a concept) is to wean people off eating the actual high fat/cholesterol original animal versions. Less consumption of cows for instance would very much help environmentally speaking.
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coluber2001
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jan, 2020 12:48 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

I don't object to vegetarian foods. I just don't favor such concoctions as fake beef.

What is fake beef?
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jan, 2020 01:15 pm
@coluber2001,
You never heard of the Impossible Burger? Plant based substitute food that's designed to taste like and have the texture (to a certain degree) as beef and other animal based proteins?
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jan, 2020 05:57 pm
@coluber2001,
I believe the last post gave a good answer.
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ekename
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jan, 2020 06:21 pm
If people have no meat to eat then let them eat cake instead.

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coluber2001
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jan, 2020 08:28 pm
@tsarstepan,
Yeah, I heard of impossible Burger, but I just can't find what it's made from. I don't know if it's soy or seitan or what? And your link didn't help either.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jan, 2020 08:52 pm
I bought a package of Beyond Meat hamburgers. It was just on a whim, they were on sale and I said "what the hell". My daughter and I ate them for dinner.

I thought they were sort of good. They did have a very slight unnatural taste that we both noted. It was definitely not meat.

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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jan, 2020 09:21 pm
@coluber2001,
coluber2001 wrote:
Yeah, I heard of impossible Burger, but I just can't find what it's made from. I don't know if it's soy or seitan or what? And your link didn't help either.

It's people. Soylent Green is made out of people. They're making our food out of people.

Soylent Green is people!!!!
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jan, 2020 07:36 am
@coluber2001,
coluber2001 wrote:

Yeah, I heard of impossible Burger, but I just can't find what it's made from. I don't know if it's soy or seitan or what? And your link didn't help either.

It's very likely a proprietary blend.

A simple Google search hits on soy and potato based.
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The protein in an Impossible Burger isn't animal flesh; rather, it's a blend of soy and potato proteins. This is different from the Impossible Burger 1.0, which used wheat protein (Impossible Burger 2.0 is gluten-free).
coluber2001
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jan, 2020 04:26 pm
@tsarstepan,
Thanks! I like to know what I'm eating, and I avoid overly processed foods.
livinglava
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jan, 2020 05:28 pm
@coluber2001,
coluber2001 wrote:

Thanks! I like to know what I'm eating, and I avoid overly processed foods.

But you're ok with using animals to process feed into meat, milk, and eggs because that's natural processing, right?
Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jan, 2020 06:09 pm
@tsarstepan,
Veggies dogs and burgers definitely are eeeeeevilllll.
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jan, 2020 12:27 am
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

I don't object to vegetarian foods. I just don't favor such concoctions as fake beef.


I have to agree with you Edgar, if you are an older boomer who ever had to eat powdered eggs, powdered milk......you would find fake meat (full of chemicals) disgusting. We have factory farms that keep chickens, cows and pigs living in filth and misery to flood the market with (har de har har) cheap meat...then send the poor beasts to be slaughtered in filthy conditions and wonder why there might be a recall of a million tons of animal flesh..........My Dad, once commented "all those animals, slaughtered for nothing"....that stuck with me....really, why raise animals in filth and misery, then kill them and have to toss them away? Really, we can't do better for living blood pumping creatures??
coluber2001
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jan, 2020 12:30 am
@livinglava,
I do eat eggs but no meat nor milk.
I'm about to start making seitan again. It's made from vital wheat gluten and nutritional yeast and flavoring.
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livinglava
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jan, 2020 02:55 pm
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:

edgarblythe wrote:

I don't object to vegetarian foods. I just don't favor such concoctions as fake beef.


I have to agree with you Edgar, if you are an older boomer who ever had to eat powdered eggs, powdered milk......you would find fake meat (full of chemicals) disgusting.

Plant-based meat is not 'full of chemicals.' It's just a way of combining plant-based protein ingredients so that they can be easily used in recipes that have been popularized to require meat.

Think about how much hygiene is necessary to operate a meat-grinding/sausage-packing facility and how much chemicals and pathogen exposure for workers that entails.

How can you think that combining plant-based ingredients to resemble traditionally meat-based products is more chemical-intensive than keeping a slaughterhouse or meat-packing plant clean?
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jan, 2020 03:20 pm
One of my biggest complaints about the veggie patties is that I quit eating soy a long time ago. Just because soy is a plant and highly promoted is no reason I have to accept it.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jan, 2020 10:12 pm
I actually made a veggie burger today for the first time - my kid got me into it.
It's made of black beans, garlic, saute├Ęd onions, cooked vegetables and spices.
All mixed together and baked for 10 min - it was delicious!!! No soy at all...
 

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