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Put In Your Date(s): The EU Seals The Borders ON?

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Tue 15 Sep, 2015 02:46 pm
@hawkeye10,
Here is a bit of shockingly non PC truth :

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In fact, the migrants would have very little chance of seeing their dreams realized. Barred from legally working while their petitions for asylum are processed - a precess that, in most European nations, takes years - most will disappear into the continents growing migrant ghettos, where they will struggle to find work in economies that have little need for them, and will live at the margins of societies that increasingly resent their presence.


May 6 NYT's Mag page 40

And these people will remember that they were welcomed with food, toys and hugs, and they will come to figure out that they were lied to, that they were encouraged to come even though they were not wanted. No matter what is going on in the lands that they left they will not feel good towards Europe.

The EU bosses are making Jihadists.
hawkeye10
 
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Sat 26 Sep, 2015 10:03 pm
@hawkeye10,
I notice with great interest that the illegals are being kept far away from regular folks as they move, and that the Europeans handling them often do so with surgical gloves and masks. Do they not understand that by treating the illegals as probable sources of calamity they are setting themselves up for the illegals actually producing calamity? Welcome signs and nice words are nice, but actions speak louder than words. The honeymoon period for this invasion is going to be a lot shorter than it should have been, and these EU pricks who think that their **** dont stink did it to themselves.
hawkeye10
 
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Wed 30 Sep, 2015 02:59 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
Warnings about the potential exploitation of cheap labour and predictions that new arrivals could push up unemployment by 70,000 next year have replaced euphoria about how newcomers could help solve shortage of skilled labour.

The Labour Office says 80 percent of refugees arrive without formal qualifications by German standards and only 8 percent of refugees tend to find employment in the first year. Aware of the looming problems, the government has responded.


http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/09/30/uk-europe-migrants-germany-idUKKCN0RU1ZW20150930

The fact that each copy cost the collective about $20,000 per year to support, and that this number will likely go up as the costs of building housing get knows, is going to be a problem. And these expenses can not simply be cut, as the result will be muslim rioting and raping.

How many years will it take before the poorly educated Syrian, with no German on invasion day, and with PTSD....how long before these people start to contribute to society?

This has not been thought through, that much as clear. Germans at the moment have a shortage of skilled labor, but that need for labor will only hold up for as long as the global economy can still sputter along, and the people that Germany has been inviting and welcoming are not the right people to solve that problem anyways.
hawkeye10
 
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Wed 30 Sep, 2015 03:30 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
"It's crowded, the food is no good, I want to leave," said Mohammed Uzer, 15, who told AFP he fled Pakistan after the Taliban killed his father.

"You don't know who'll come into your room. My friend lost his mobile phone, his clothes and 100 euros ($112). And there's a Syrian, not a good guy, who's always fighting, with words. I don't understand, he speaks Arabic."

Dr Jessica Karagoel of immigration consultancy FaZIT said tensions tend to worsen with "crowded conditions, lack of privacy and the fact people from different countries often can't communicate".

A study by her centre had found that "conflicts are more likely where many people have to share one bathroom or one shower".

"The extra stress comes from having to wait in a foreign country, with little influence over the process, a loss of control, no idea about how long it will take and what the outcome will be."

Schickerling said that "considering what they're up against, being 'damned to wait', I take my hat off to these people for staying so peaceful".

http://news.yahoo.com/tempers-flare-germanys-crowded-refugee-centres-102908336.html

For how long will the patience run? Not very is my guess, these people came with high expectations. Then they were welcomed with cheers, food, toys, and nice clothes.
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hawkeye10
 
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Tue 10 Nov, 2015 03:45 pm
@hawkeye10,
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Jean Asselborn is ringing alarm bells. National egoism is usurping a sense of community, walls are being put up where borders were once open, and nationalism is taking precedence over human values. Within a few months, the Schengen area and its absence of border checks could collapse, and with it one of the EU's greatest achievements. A war could even result from this false nationalism. And, while "the glue that holds us together is still the culture of human values," Asselborn is worried that the glue cannot hold. He praised Germany's liberal refugee policy, but said some politicians are using the issue to intentionally stir fear. This, he said, must be counteracted.
The danger that Asselborn perceives really does exist, but not in the way he thinks. And that's why he is drawing the wrong conclusions.
Loss of control
For one thing, he's wrong about what's causing the fear. People in Europe are worried about the uncontrolled influx of refugees, but not primarily because the population has suddenly become much more right wing.

Rather, European citizens are having to sit by and watch how shockingly powerless their countries are in the face of this crisis.
In Germany alone, thousands of people are freely entering the country each day, even after the government agreed on a range of measures to clamp down on such movement. The authorities often don't know who the migrants are, where they've come from, and where they're currently staying. And it's been this way for months. A country that has no control over who is crossing its borders? Of course, that is unsettling and makes people anxious and concerned.
The chancellor remains committed to her lenient refugee policy with no upper limit - and is trying to convince her European partners to do the same. She's long given the impression that the loss of control doesn't particularly bother her. It's no wonder that other governments aren't listening. Even in Germany, she's becoming increasingly isolated.
Tusk: 'Breeding ground of fear'
Asselborn is also wrong in his proposed solution. You can't stop the collapse of Europe by declaring these fears to be baseless and appealing to people's better values.
Rather, the mass influx into Europe needs to be slowed - and radically. But Asselborn doesn't want to hear about it. Even when it comes to the EU's outer borders, he is expressly against closing them off. The EU should only know "who is coming to us and why."
It's precisely this kind of morally embellished permissiveness that is endangering Europe. That's why right-wing radical parties are making gains in every election at the moment. Many governments feel they have no other choice but to help themselves by reintroducing border inspections or building fences along EU internal borders.
EU Council President Donald Tusk takes a more broad-sighted view of things. Commenting on the current situation in the EU, the usually restrained Pole said: "A European Union without external borders will become a breeding ground for fear." And that is exactly the problem!
Failed distribution
That's the reason why the distribution of refugees inside the EU has failed so spectacularly. As long as the influx of asylum seekers continues unabated, a fixed allocation scheme would be like a free pass to do nothing at the external borders. The people of Europe expect the EU to cooperate on slowing the influx, not just distribute it differently.
The consequences are not pleasant, but they are necessary. If we want to save the EU, then we have to ensure that the EU regains control over immigration. This doesn't mean that the EU would no longer accept asylum-seekers, but it would do so with clear limitations.


http://www.dw.com/en/opinion-the-refugee-crisis-is-endangering-the-eu/a-18837640

I, with my low expectations of government today, am stunned by how idiotic Merkel et al have been ENCOURAGING all of these invaders. I am less stunned with their lack of honesty and their lack of ability to manage. If the EU does survive this self created crisis it will do so transformed.
hawkeye10
 
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Tue 10 Nov, 2015 04:44 pm
@hawkeye10,
Best plan now is for the EU to spend what ever it takes to end the war in Syria and rebuild it into a economic powerhouse, and then sending everyone home. They need to announce right now that no syrian will be allowed to stay more than 5 years. Send all the Afghans home now, and as for the rest take a wait and see approach.

And just to be clear, this will require going into partnership with Russia, and this will require giving up on the dream of having Ukraine being european. It belongs to Russia.

AND CLOSE THE BOARDERS TO THE EU NOW!
hawkeye10
 
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Thu 12 Nov, 2015 10:56 am
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
The events of the last week — the Pegida rally and the stabbing, among others — have unnerved many Germans, some of whom are joining the chorus of skeptics opposing Merkel’s policies. The chancellor’s fate, then, is bound up with the refugees and Germany’s ability to process, accommodate, and then integrate them smoothly.

There is no heir apparent in the CDU to replace Merkel
— and at the moment there is no movement to find one. The German Christian Democrats were until a few months ago soundly behind their undisputed leader Angela Merkel, Germany’s most popular politician and Europe’s most powerful figure. They don’t want to overthrow her: They want her to come to her senses, as they see it, and do what conservative-minded Christian Democrats are supposed to do. But in standing up for the right of the persecuted to political asylum in Europe, Merkel believes she is doing exactly that — and there’s the rub.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/10/22/nothing-can-take-down-angela-merkel-except-800000-refugees-germany-cdu-pegida/

Tell you what, after getting this so disastrously wrong, very maybe causing the last straw in the collapse of the EU, CDU and their partners dont need to worry about that!
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hawkeye10
 
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Fri 13 Nov, 2015 05:01 pm
France: 13 Nov 2015
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