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What matters to your God?

 
 
Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2015 05:24 am
A question primarily aimed for a discussion between believers in a monotheistic god, whether that be Yahweh, Allah, Krishna or the flying Spaghetti Monster

There are many details that theists will argue over regarding religion i.e what happens when we die, what is your gods purpose, why is there suffering, but when it comes down to it, is having the correct answers to these details essential to your salvation/approval/reward/bolognese sauce recipe?

Putting it simply, What do you believe matters to your god?
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Joe Sixpack
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2015 11:02 am
@Smileyrius,
Did you say spaghetti?
neologist
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2015 11:05 am
@Smileyrius,
I would ask how God would explain the mess the world has gotten into.
neologist
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2015 11:06 am
@Joe Sixpack,
Joe, Spaghetti must be served with an appropriate libation.
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Smileyrius
 
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Reply Wed 12 Aug, 2015 06:04 pm
@neologist,
Why do you suppose it matters to him?
vansdad
 
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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2015 10:08 am
What might matter to Him is that we love Him. And believe that He really exists or else He wont be able to make contact with us.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2015 11:09 am
@vansdad,
Way too short an answer. You can't love someone you know nothing about so what would matter most, at least initially, is that you seek him out. Maybe you will hit it off and love will happen.

That "unconditional love" concept that most religions push is utter nonsense. That is a denial of reality which any self respecting God would definitely not want.
Smileyrius
 
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Reply Mon 24 Aug, 2015 05:14 am
@Leadfoot,
But my friend, How would you suppose he seeks out such a god?
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Mon 24 Aug, 2015 11:56 am
@Smileyrius,
An archeologist can ascertain an amazing amount about long dead civilizations from little more than fragments of pottery in an old garbage dump. How much more can we learn from the still living creations of God?

Seek him out by looking at his highest creation.
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Johnjohnjohn
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2015 10:33 am
@neologist,
Job lost everything of his and his life was horrible. He kept his faith in GOD and ( guess what lol) he got double what he had before.

The same things happening to us, except some people arent keeping their faith in GOD.
rosborne979
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2015 11:37 am
@Smileyrius,
Smileyrius wrote:
Putting it simply, What do you believe matters to your god?

It's an interesting question. I wish I could participate, but I'm not a theist so I'll just observe.
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Smileyrius
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2015 12:21 pm
@Johnjohnjohn,
Do you suppose there if a difference between having faith, and being faithful?
neologist
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2015 12:29 pm
@Smileyrius,
Smileyrius wrote:
Why do you suppose it matters to him?
Whom?
Smileyrius
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2015 12:39 pm
@neologist,
I assumed you were discussing the holy creed of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
Johnjohnjohn
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2015 06:50 pm
@Smileyrius,
There is.

Faith would be a believer of God. Although theres obvious evidence, there isnt a revealed truth. Yet.

Faithfulness is a loyal servant of God who has been in his presence before.

But if you arent faithful, you dont have faith.
If you have faith, you will be faithful.
It depends how you look at it.
Job had faith in God through his time of trouble.
God appeared to him and gave Job his posessions back. God even doubled them. Job is now faithful to his creator who was revealed.

Joe Sixpack
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2015 06:59 pm
@Smileyrius,
Smileyrius wrote:
I assumed you were discussing the holy creed of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
I thought so. You are talking about spaghetti.
Smileyrius
 
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Reply Thu 3 Sep, 2015 05:20 am
@Joe Sixpack,
hey man, he exists, and if you need assurance, read it in the tagliatelli translation
Dolmio 3:16 "the proofeth is ineth the eatingeth"
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Smileyrius
 
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Reply Thu 3 Sep, 2015 05:25 am
@Johnjohnjohn,
Thankyou my friend, I appreciate your response
In what way must one have been in the presence of God to be considered faithful?
I understand how someone cannot be considered faithful if they do not have faith, however would you say that one cannot have faith without being faithful?
Johnjohnjohn
 
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Reply Thu 3 Sep, 2015 05:37 am
@Smileyrius,
Well if we're going by my example ..

No I wouldnt because a follower of God ( with faith) can believe God can exist but doesn't have respect or loyalty towards him. ( no faithfulness)

Ex: a fallen angel
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 3 Sep, 2015 05:52 am
@Johnjohnjohn,
Johnjohnjohn wrote:
Job had faith in God through his time of trouble.


Job was what you'd technically describe as a loony. Peter Cook in Bedazzled.
 

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