If (and I emphasis IF) Wittgenstein or anyone else (e.g., Nietzsche) showed us that all our efforts are ultimately non-sensical (which I suspect is true), they have done an important and viable bit of philosophizing. The question remailns where do we go from there? If we decided to just live in a murky pool of common sense thinking, we will still be doing philosophy, but incredibly inferior philosophy. I suggest that we continue with our philosophical investigations but with our tongues partially in cheek, and spend some time every day meditating. :wink:
JL, nothing is inferior in this world..NOTHING. There is only the idea of it. We look in the face of evil, and there we discover a potential travesty.
Tonight I found a small, insignificant, frog clinging to the crevice of a small corner. I touched it, and there was no retreat.
Well, I am delighted that we can laugh, talk, and meditate( which I have never done)...but every day that we awaken is a meditation.
goodnight,
from Florida
Letty, I agree. Broadly speaking we are always meditating. Regarding "awakening" it comes with lower and upper case "A".
I always feel that I must leave the day with a poem, JL. I did so tonight, and you are so right, my friend. The capitals make all the difference in the feeling of it, but not in the leaving of it.
Letty, JLN, I'm proud to know ya both; while sometimes we may not share opinions on a given issue, I think all in all we're on the sane side of life, and that's what counts.
Sniff.....I feel Sofia and I are being left out of the group hug.
Sorry, Foxfyre ... Sofia and I already have an independently negotiated arrangement, of some long standing. You were not intentionally slighted, and I apologize for your having been, inadvertantly and carelessly I assure you, unmentioned. Please feel free to join the hug ... no charge.
Just this once. though, mind you.
And, of course, tipping is customary.
Good morning all. That was a kind thing for you to say, Timber, and I appreciate it. There's one interesting fact that I find helpful in deciding about philosophy. Often we have to unlearn as much as we learn because of what is instilled in us at an early age. That can take a life time of examination. Many times, every day observations by real people in a real world, can have the most impact in our lives. My oldest sister once told me:
It is difficult to see faults in others that we don't possess ourselves. I have turned that idea around in my head several times and decided that it's not an actuality, at least in my life.
As for the ancient sages, I'm afraid that I know little of what they espouse, but this particular thread started because I had held a misconception of the label.
I always appreciate any input even when I don't quite understand it. <smile>
Letty, do you realize the zennish quality of your statement that "nothing is inferior [or superior] in this world. There is only the idea of it [being so]"?
Pardon the additions.
Reminds me of a quote, I think from Wittgenstein:
(paraphrasing)
"We give up three-fourths of ourselves up, trying to be like everyone else."
I guess someone said later, "Go along to get along."
Indeed, refusing to do this can reveal that we are not superior or inferior--just unique.
No, JL. I have no idea about Zen. I only know what I know..uhoh...that made me think of a song.<smile> and what doesn't. Why should you ask pardon of additions?
Sophia, One thing that I can say. I have never given up one little bit of myself to be like someone else. really. Perhaps, therein, lies the problem.
I wouldn't characterize it as a problem.
Lash, I don't understand.
BBB
Spin Doctors, that's what them Sophists are, ain't they?
BBB
dyslexia wrote:Lash wrote:Letty wrote:Lash, I don't understand.
Me, neither...
I do.
He's a philosopher....or either he just finally agreed to marry me.
