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A rock with iron in it.

 
 
popac
 
Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2015 12:19 pm
Hi,
What kind of rock it is?
Beeing highly magnetic, I cut it and contains inside a few metalic spots. The big one its around 3.5mm. But I see also some smaller spot < 0.5mm
http://s10.postimg.org/935bbvu2t/IMG_3317.jpg
http://s18.postimg.org/f3rsvv4c5/IMG_3349.jpg
http://s10.postimg.org/56rzfw93d/IMG_3317.jpg
http://s18.postimg.org/5vzkf5xa1/IMG_3349.jpg
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Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2015 12:23 pm
@popac,
Magnetite?

Nah.

Farmerman will be along in a while, after he's finished ploughing the lower meadow.

He's the expert.
popac
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2015 01:29 pm
@Lordyaswas,
No magnetite I think.
But why iron on it do not rust?
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KBQ1006
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2015 03:04 pm
@popac,
Where did you find it, and what did you use to cut it?

To try to identify it I would suggest testing the hardness of the rock (Moh's hardenss scale) and note if your are testing a particular mineral of the rock or if the rock seems to be composed primarily of one mineral (I can't really tell from the photos). I would also suggest determining the specific gravity of the rock (check the link below on how to do it)

http://minerva.union.edu/hollochk/pedagogy/files/kh2.pdf

Hopefully this helps

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rosborne979
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2015 05:18 pm
@popac,
Did you find it near an old refinery? It might be slag from an old processing plant or something else man-made.
farmerman
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2015 06:24 pm
@rosborne979,
It does have a slag look about it. Otherwise it could be a diabase which has a mixture of iron rich silicates, some base iron an feldspathoids. Trouble with doing density is that , a rock is a mixture of minerals so its density can be all over the place.

Magnetics is a good forensic tool. I suspect that the hunks of iron in the rock body are magnetic "Blebs" If you whack it with a piece of quartz or a back of a hunting knife and then smell it here you whacked it. If it hs a sulfur like smell, chances are its a piece of slag.

I am also curious. What did you cut it with a masonry bit on a circular saw? You didnt use a rock saw cause it looks like the blade was not cutting too straight
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2015 06:30 pm
@Lordyaswas,
Im in the"dry" gas fields of northern PA seeing to capping of gas wells and testing those that are capped. We use a helium and argon trick.
I went into a store near Mansfield and me and my field guys took a hit of helium from some or our balloons that we filled up for testing the wells. We all sounded like Minions . The people in the store tried not to laugh, the one woman laughd and apologized. When we ore off the helium she was kinda pissed at us.

Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2015 08:07 pm
@farmerman,
That's funny.


I like the fact that men never grow up. A good dollop of silliness now and then keeps the world smiling.
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popac
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2015 09:51 pm
@Lordyaswas
@KBQ1006
@rosborne979
@farmerman
Thank you for your answers and suggestions.

(I became passionate after the fall of a large Fireball in Vrancea zone, Romania, on January 7, 2015 I purchased a strong neodymium magnet and fixed it at the end of a stick of fiberglass. Anyway I was not in that area. And I think this stone is probably not a meteorite. Smile )
I found the rock almost buried at surface on an unpaved road, near Bucharest, Romania. On a length of 100m of road, the magnet jumped to 30 stones or more but only this was more magnetic and interesting for me.... It is magnetic in particular in the areas where iron is observed.
I cut it manual with a tile saw. That's why was not cutting too straight. Bottom've broken it. Then I polished a little the surface. Some ditches remained unpolished. It felt a little hard to cut, especially in areas that contain metal. I did not feel smell of sulfur.
rosborne979
 
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Reply Wed 8 Jul, 2015 04:49 am
@popac,
Probably slag of some type then.

But good luck finding that meteorite. That would be awesome to find.
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pcris
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jul, 2015 10:02 pm
I will sent a sample to Romanian Institute of Geology to determine the compostion of rock and Ni/Fe raport. I will tell you the result.
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popac
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2015 09:50 am
I have the analisis. It have inside around 20% metal but... it have almost no Nikel.
Its a sort of slag.
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2015 02:21 pm
@popac,
any numbers for carbon or carbonate ?
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popac
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2015 09:24 pm
After cutting a slice that I left it to analyze the iron droplets inside looks better.
http://s16.postimg.org/6yk867c5h/IMG_3371.jpg
http://s16.postimg.org/9fvzdgw1t/IMG_3371.jpg

The analysis was done without cost. I got the result only by phone about the extremely small concentrations of Ni. I will ask about the amount of carbon or carbonate.
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popac
 
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Reply Fri 14 Aug, 2015 11:50 pm
I received by mail the analysis result of 7 metallic spheres from the sample:

1.
Spectrum: Point
Element AN Series norm. C Atom. C
[wt.%] [at.%]
-----------------------------------
Iron 26 K-series 95.54 93.06
Calcium 20 K-series 2.81 3.81
Silicon 14 K-series 1.59 3.08
Nickel 28 K-series 0.06 0.06
-----------------------------------
Total: 100.00 100.00

2.-----------------------------------
Iron 26 K-series 89.89 76.81
Calcium 20 K-series 4.15 4.94
Carbon 6 K-series 3.57 14.18
Silicon 14 K-series 2.39 4.06
Nickel 28 K-series 0.00 0.00
-----------------------------------
Total: 100.00 100.00

3.-----------------------------------
Iron 26 K-series 90.43 77.13
Calcium 20 K-series 3.90 4.64
Carbon 6 K-series 3.80 15.06
Silicon 14 K-series 1.87 3.17
Nickel 28 K-series 0.00 0.00
-----------------------------------
Total: 100.00 100.00

4.-----------------------------------
Iron 26 K-series 91.47 78.73
Carbon 6 K-series 3.60 14.39
Calcium 20 K-series 2.84 3.41
Silicon 14 K-series 2.02 3.46
Nickel 28 K-series 0.00 0.00
-----------------------------------
Total: 100.00 100.00

5.-----------------------------------
Iron 26 K-series 88.66 75.11
Calcium 20 K-series 4.88 5.76
Carbon 6 K-series 3.66 14.40
Silicon 14 K-series 2.80 4.72
Nickel 28 K-series 0.00 0.00
-----------------------------------
Total: 100.00 100.00

6.-----------------------------------
Iron 26 K-series 93.59 85.44
Calcium 20 K-series 2.94 3.74
Carbon 6 K-series 1.91 8.09
Silicon 14 K-series 1.50 2.72
Nickel 28 K-series 0.00 0.00
-----------------------------------
Total: 100.00 100.00

7.-----------------------------------
Iron 26 K-series 93.36 84.17
Calcium 20 K-series 2.76 3.46
Carbon 6 K-series 2.33 9.77
Silicon 14 K-series 1.43 2.57
Nickel 28 K-series 0.00 0.00
-----------------------------------
Total: 100.00 100.00
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