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the secularist founding fathers of post- colonial India, especially the religious Gandhi?

 
 
Reply Mon 16 Mar, 2015 10:25 am

1) In " the secularist founding fathers of post-colonial India, especially the religious Gandhi", it seems to me not consistent at the same time calling Gandhi the secularist founding father and religious, because a secularist is not religious.
What do you think?

2) Does " or at any rate organised religion" mean "or at least organised religion"?

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These facts about today's political climate in the United States,
and what they imply, would have horrified Jefferson, Washington,
Madison, Adams and all their friends. Whether they were atheists,
agnostics, deists or Christians, they would have recoiled in horror
from the theocrats of early 21st-century Washington. They would
have been drawn instead to the secularist founding fathers of post-
colonial India, especially the religious Gandhi
('I am a Hindu, I am
a Moslem, I am a Jew, I am a Christian, I am a Buddhist!'), and the
atheist Nehru:
The spectacle of what is called religion, or at any rate
organised religion
, in India and elsewhere, has filled me
with horror and I have frequently condemned it and
wished to make a clean sweep of it. Almost always it
seemed to stand for blind belief and reaction, dogma and
bigotry, superstition, exploitation and the preservation of
vested interests.
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Reply Mon 16 Mar, 2015 11:32 am
'religious" Gandhi could just be an adjective to describe this particular Gandhi, since that it a common name and has particular historical reference.

Kind of like: the baseball Joe Smith . . . as opposed to some other famous Joe Smith.

at any rate = at least what is commonly known as
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Reply Mon 16 Mar, 2015 03:11 pm
@oristarA,

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the secularist founding fathers of post-
colonial India, especially the religious Gandhi ('I am a Hindu, I am
a Moslem, I am a Jew, I am a Christian, I am a Buddhist!'), and the
atheist Nehru:


1) Gandhi was a Hindu, but in the above statement he is making plain his intention to put religious matters behind him, and to behave in a secular way as far as the new India was concerned. Every religion, and people of no religion, would be treated equally. (leaving aside the caste system!)

2) yes.
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Reply Mon 16 Mar, 2015 10:53 pm
Thank you both.
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