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Hail Poetry!

 
 
ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 7 Jul, 2003 02:42 pm
This topic is so rich, thank you all.
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jjorge
 
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Reply Sat 29 Nov, 2003 08:40 pm
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satt fs
 
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Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2003 12:50 am
I used to cite some translations of chinese verses, and now I will share an ancient japanese poem.



Painful is the love
that remains unknown to the beloved,
like the star lily that has bloomed
in the thick foliage
of the summer field.

(Natsu-no no-no
shigemi ni sakeru
hime-yuri no
shiraenu koiwa
kurushiki mono so

夏の野の繁みに咲ける姫百合の知らえぬ恋は苦しきものそ)

- Otomono Sakanoueno Iratsume (Lady Otomo Sakanoue)
(in Man'yoshu vol.8)
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satt fs
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2003 06:19 am
One more japanese ancient poem..


Brave man like the catalpa bow
that, once drawn,
does not slacken -
can it be that he is unable to bear
the vicissitudes of love?

(Azusa-yumi
hikite yuruenu
masurawo ya
koi to iumono wo
shinobi kanetem

梓弓引きて緩へぬますらをや恋といふものを忍びかねてむ。)

- Anonymous (Man'yoshu vol.12)
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Piffka
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2003 10:16 am
Gorgeous poems... all three. I can't believe we haven't posted here since July. JULY?!???

That Mary Jo Salter is so poignant, Jjorge, it brought tears to my eyes. Oh I wouldn't want to be seven again. As an aside, I overheard a woman yesterday speaking to her children and saying, "If you eat that, your teeth will rot out before you're seven." I thought, woman, you fool. Don't you realize they'll remember that and worry about their teeth, fret about what rotting out means? We have to be very careful what we say to children, IMO.

The phrase in the Mary Jo Salter poem about the mother's hand, "All hope, no blame," sounds very much like words from the I Ching. I've read it through and don't think they are in there, but I couldn't swear to it. Great poem, Jjorge and wonderful to have you back and posting poetry. It's like Christmas to me!


Satt! You've switched to ancient Japanese poetry? I was thinking about you last night while I watched the quarter moon and the beautiful Chinese poems you had posted. Remeber how I picked out which pictogram meant the moon? I wanted to learn to read Chinese then, but oh, it is so difficult to find time.

These poems are beautiful and much more intimate than the ones from China. At least, they seem to me to have a different, more personal feel. I especially like the first one, the image is so clear. In the second, I think there is more significance to the Catalpa tree than I know. (Do you know?) I'd love to see more.


Here's a very short poem that a birding friend of mine wrote and gave to me recently. It is that in-common feeling we have when we watch birds, I think.

OFFSHORE

A bald eagle diving
At fishes,
He misses,
But catches our imagination
Flying overhead.

-- David Drummond, 8 July 2002
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satt fs
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2003 12:17 pm
Piffka..
Anytime I hit upon a poem which is appropriate, I would post here, chinese, japanese or other. (I am not a simple nationalist of any nation, but I respect cultures.)
This time I included characters other than the usual alphabets (using the unicode number). If appropriate fonts are installed on your machine, they can be displayed without changing the encoding of the browser.
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Piffka
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2003 02:28 pm
Oh, the Japanese script came through perfectly. I didn't even think how hard that might have been. Very Happy I was busy downloading your Bach, which also worked well. Just from your appreciation of music, Satt, I assumed you were eclectic. Wink

I wish I had another poem, but all the ones I've been reading seem overlong to post.
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satt fs
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2003 02:55 pm
Piffka..
Now you can see the character for "moon"



in your browser with suitable fonts.

When HTML is enabled in a page, any unicode charcter can be displayed simply entering a number without typing the character itself.
Try this: Start up a text editor on your computer and enter the sequence of symbols

&#@26376; (for a reason a superfluous '@' is added here)

in a new page omitting '@' but keeping "&#" and ";" as they are, then save the file with ".html" extension (for example with the name "moon.html" and do not use ".txt" extension). Then open the file in your browser (just click on the icon of newly saved file). Note: For this, your OS must be set to display all the file extensions.


For a variety, without notice I frequently change the linked tune in my Bach link. If you are interested, please check it up occasionally.
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Piffka
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2003 05:19 pm


Cool! I couldn't get it to work with my Word software and don't know what other text editor I have, but then I thought... hmm, maybe it would work here. It does! I can also modify it in different colors or font sizes.

Thanks, Satt! I love the way that moon looks, the double box, the legs, slightly different and off to the left. I suppose I could put it in my signature line. I will keep an eye out for any changes to your signature music. I liked the one you had that was on a continuous loop... it was there a few weeks ago. I let it play over and over for quite a while, then suddenly I'd heard it enough. Very Happy Beautiful stuff.
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satt fs
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2003 05:27 pm
Piffka..
Great! Nice moon.
"Text editor" means Notepad or the like, i.e., the simplest device for text editing.

The linked tune can change with the same appearence on the page, as performer can differ for the same piece.
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Piffka
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2003 05:43 pm
Thanks, Satt! Did you notice it's a big blue moon?

Do you mean you have several different music links that load in a cycle for your signature? I just downloaded it again and I think it was different. (But I can't remember -- what a terrible memory!)
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satt fs
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2003 05:56 pm
Blue moon rarely happens. (You mean it's a miracle?)

I have no plan of a "cycle" of music. As there are more than 1120 pieces by Bach,J.S., and almost infinitely many performances, I am going to add a link to any piece and performance that I feel appropriate at the time.
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Piffka
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2003 07:07 pm
Yup. A near-miracle and a good song, too!

About the Bach... OK, I misunderstood you before. I'll just watch for changes in the BWV#.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2003 07:09 pm
I loved the piece I heard, whatever it was, whenever it was.
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satt fs
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2003 07:31 pm
Quote:
I loved the piece I heard, whatever it was, whenever it was.

Current link is to Prelude of No.1 of Six Partitas by Bach, J.S. performed by Natalie Cole (as of Dec 2 0130 GMT).

(And as of 0644 GMT Dinu Lipatti's performance is linked.)

(As of Dec 2 2200GMT, Wolfgang Rubsam's performance is linked.)

http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Mus/BWV825-Mus.htm
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jjorge
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2003 08:07 pm
satt_focusable wrote:


...Brave man like the catalpa bow
that, once drawn,
does not slacken -
can it be that he is unable to bear
the vicissitudes of love?...


That's very nice satt.






Piffka

If I didn't love poetry, I would feign it
...just to be in your company.

Thank you for the gift of kind words and warm welcome.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2003 09:27 pm
I thought that was very nice too.

And hi, jjorge. You coming to SF in the Spring?
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Piffka
 
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Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2003 10:51 pm
jjorge*197982* wrote:
If I didn't love poetry, I would feign it
...just to be in your company.


Wow. That is the nicest thing anybody has said to me today! I think I'll just bask a minute in it.
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<sigh>

I am truly glad you love poetry, Jjorge, because you have introduced me to wonderful poems and great poets. Thanks, my friend!

{{{{{Jjorge}}}}}
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jjorge
 
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Reply Fri 5 Dec, 2003 12:28 am
ossobuco wrote:
I thought that was very nice too.

And hi, jjorge. You coming to SF in the Spring?



Hi Osso,

Sorry for the delayed response.

Yes, I'm still planning to come to SF in the Spring. I hope to see you there as well as C.I. and others. Very Happy

Maybe we can even get Piffie to come down from Seattle.

I guess I should re-visit the SF thread to catch up on any recent posts/developments there.
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jjorge
 
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Reply Fri 5 Dec, 2003 07:45 am
In Rogues Island we are expecting our first snow storm of the year tonight.

I must be a New Englander to the marrow, because I love it.

By mid-February snow may get tiresome, but the first storms are always
exciting and deeply satisfying to me.

There is something cleansing, restorative, about the snow; something very pleasing
about the stillness, the quiet, the way it impedes and muffles our headlong hurtling
--our frenetic ant-like scurrying.

I want to share this Thomas Hardy poem with you. I received it in an email yesterday.
I thought I was familiar with all of Hardy's poems but I either missed this one or I have
forgotten it.

PS
Beneath the Hardy poem is one of my own.
(Shame on me for placing mine alongside Hardy's! Very Happy )
I hope you'll like at least one of them.

--jjorge



"Snow in the Suburbs,"

Every branch big with it,
Bent every twig with it;
Every fork like a white web-foot;
Every street and pavement mute:
Some flakes have lost their way, and grope back upward, when
Meeting those meandering down they turn and descend again.
The palings are glued together like a wall,
And there is no waft of wind with the fleecy fall.

A sparrow enters the tree,
Whereon immediately
A snow-lump thrice his own slight size
Descends on him and showers his head and eyes,
And overturns him,
And near inurns him,
And lights on a nether twig, when its brush
Starts off a volley of other lodging lumps with a rush.

The steps are a blanched slope,
Up which, with feeble hope,
A black cat comes, wide-eyed and thin;
And we take him in.
( Thomas Hardy )


*******************


Letter To My Brother In San Francisco'


Dear David,
The rumor's true.

Winter has wrapped our sick and tired
world in the customary bandages.

Soon enough they'll be discolored - fouled
by the residue of our strivings.

But for today all is wrapped in a healing whiteness.
It's just as you remember:

The stillness of yard and street,
the trees transformed, the quiet!
( jjorge 12-7-02 )
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